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  • Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     OP - June 09, 2011, 10:39 PM

    At ease, soldier! This is only a joke  Smiley

    The following is a piece I copied from The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins.
    Amazing book and I particularly enjoyed this bit.


    Quote
    The ontological argument, like all a priori arguments for the
    existence of God, reminds me of the old man in Aldous Huxley's
    Point Counter Point who discovered a mathematical proof of the
    existence of God:
    You know the formula, m over nought equals infinity, m
    being any positive number? Well, why not reduce the
    equation to a simpler form by multiplying both sides by
    nought. In which case you have m equals infinity times
    nought. That is to say that a positive number is the product
    of zero and infinity. Doesn't that demonstrate the
    creation of the universe by an infinite power out of nothing?
    Doesn't it?
    Or there is the notorious eighteenth-century debate on the existence
    of God, staged by Catherine the Great between Euler, the Swiss
    mathematician, and Diderot, the great encyclopedist of the
    Enlightenment. The pious Euler advanced upon the atheistic
    Diderot and, in tones of the utmost conviction, delivered his
    challenge: 'Monsieur, (a + bn)/n = x, therefore God exists. Reply!'
    Diderot was cowed into withdrawal, and one version of the story
    has him withdrawing all the way back to France.
      Cheesy
    Euler was employing what might be called the Argument from
    Blinding with Science (in this case mathematics). David Mills, in
    Atheist Universe, transcribes a radio interview of himself by a
    religious spokesman, who invoked the Law of Conservation of
    Mass-Energy in a weirdly ineffectual attempt to blind with science:
    'Since we're all composed of matter and energy, doesn't that
    scientific principle lend credibility to a belief in eternal life?' Mills
    replied more patiently and politely than I would have, for what the
    interviewer was saying, translated into English, was no more than:
    'When we die, none of the atoms of our body (and none of the
    energy) are lost. Therefore we are immortal.'
    Even I, with my long experience, have never encountered wishful
    thinking as silly as that. I have, however, met many of the wonderful
    'proofs' collected at
    http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm
    a richly comic numbered list of 'Over Three
    Hundred Proofs of God's Existence'. Here's a hilarious half-dozen,
    beginning with Proof Number 36.


    And without further ado, here they are!

    36 Argument from Incomplete Devastation: A plane crashed
    killing 143 passengers and crew. But one child survived
    with only third-degree burns. Therefore God exists.

    37 Argument from Possible Worlds: If things had been
    different, then things would be different. That would be
    bad. Therefore God exists.

    38 Argument from Sheer Will: I do believe in God! I do
    believe in God! I do I do I do. I do believe in God!
    Therefore God exists.

    39 Argument from Non-belief: The majority of the world's
    population are non-believers in Christianity. This is just
    what Satan intended. Therefore God exists.

    40 Argument from Post-Death Experience: Person X died an
    atheist. He now realizes his mistake. Therefore God exists.

    41 Argument from Emotional Blackmail: God loves you.
    How could you be so heartless as not to believe in him?
    Therefore God exists.

    Hope you enjoyed these, there are hundreds and I'm about to go read the rest!  grin12  Nude nerd

    I'm open for debate (of why we should re-/embrace Islam), but I will no longer participate in this forum. Message me if you need anything. Good luck and may you all find your way... again...
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #1 - June 09, 2011, 10:41 PM

    I made this one up:

    ARGUMENT FROM SELF PRESERVATION:
    (1) I will be killed if I say God does not exist.
    (2) I'm afraid of that.
    (3) Therefore, God exists.

     Cheesy

    Oh and no. 12 reminds me of someone (ahem!)

    ARGUMENT FROM FEAR
    (1) If there is no God then we're all going to not exist after we die.
    (2) I'm afraid of that.
    (3) Therefore, God exists.

    I'm open for debate (of why we should re-/embrace Islam), but I will no longer participate in this forum. Message me if you need anything. Good luck and may you all find your way... again...
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #2 - June 09, 2011, 10:55 PM

    Science in my holy book argument: QURAN TEACHES US THE WATER CYCLE, HOW COULD THOSE DUMB ASS ARABS KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE WATER CYCLE, ONLY GOD COULD HAVE TOLD THIS TOO US.
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #3 - June 09, 2011, 11:54 PM




    ARGUMENT FROM INTERNET AUTHORITY
    (1) There is a website that successfully argues for the existence of God.
    (2) Here is the URL.
    (3) Therefore, God exists.


    ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPREHENSIBILITY
    (1) Flabble glurk zoom boink blubba snurgleschnortz ping!
    (2) No one has ever refuted (1).
    (3) Therefore, God exists.

    Lmao



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #4 - June 10, 2011, 09:52 AM

    Haha, I remember that anecdote! However, it most probably didn't happen since Diderot dabbled in mathematics himself and would not have been fazed by such an elementary equation.

    This reminds me of a hilarious conversation I had with a friend once.

    Me: I don't believe in a god. I'm more drawn towards science.
    Friend: SO YOU BELIEVE THAT SCIENCE CREATED THE UNIVERSE?!

    At which point my face was like http://www.myfacewhen.com/202/

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #5 - June 10, 2011, 10:30 AM



    ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPREHENSIBILITY
    (1) Flabble glurk zoom boink blubba snurgleschnortz ping!
    (2) No one has ever refuted (1).
    (3) Therefore, God exists.



    ^ This. The most common variant of this that I've seen is argument by esoterica:

    1. Knowledge of the Unseen proves the existence of God.
    2. You need knowledge of God to apprehend the Unseen.
    3. Therefore, God exists.
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #6 - June 14, 2011, 09:46 AM

    I've seen too many people use this "argument":

    ARGUMENT FROM BEAUTY, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
    (1) Isn't that baby/sunset/flower/tree beautiful?
    (2) Only God could have made them so beautiful.
    (3) Therefore, God exists.


    Also:

    PARENTAL ARGUMENT
    (1) My mommy and daddy told me that God exists.
    (2) Therefore, God exists.


    And some of the funnier ones:

    ARGUMENT FROM A BAD TRIP
    (1) I went to a party and took LSD.
    (2) I saw demons attacking me.
    (3) Then Jesus came and drove the demons away.
    (4) So I joined the Assemblies of God.
    (5) Therefore, God exists.

    ARGUMENT FROM BLINDNESS (II)
    (1) God is love.
    (2) Love is blind.
    (3) Stevie Wonder is blind.
    (4) Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.
    (5) Therefore, God exists.

     Cheesy Aww geez.
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #7 - July 17, 2011, 10:09 PM

    I just came across a major facepalming comment.  I'm rarely stuck for words but I mean  : err, how do we even begin to respond to this as NOT being proof of Gods existence?
    Quote
    how can the human eye see?


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  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #8 - July 17, 2011, 11:30 PM

    98 ARGUMENT FROM DESIGN, a.k.a. GOD OF THE GAPS, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (IV), a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL INCREDULITY (III)
    (1) Isn't X amazing!
    (2) I don't understand how X could be, without something else (that I don't really understand either) making or doing X.
    (3) This something else must be God because I can't come up with a better explanation.
    (4) Therefore, God exists.

    109 ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF DISPROOF, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM SHIFTED BURDEN OF PROOF
    (1) You can't prove God doesn't exist!
    (2) Therefore, God exists.

    110 ARGUMENT FROM ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE (I)
    (1) I once experienced something I can't explain.
    (2) Atheist offers several possible, natural explanations.
    (3) You're just guessing!  I was there.
    (4) Therefore, God exists.

    111 ARGUMENT FROM ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE (II)
    (1) I have experienced feelings of God's presence in my mind.
    (2) Therefore, God exists.

    112 ARGUMENT FROM FOOLISHNESS
    (1) The Bible says atheists are fools.
    (2) I don't want to be a fool.
    (3) Therefore, God exists.

    113 ARGUMENT FROM JESUS SAID STUFF (Can easily be changed to Muhammad)
    (1) Jesus said some really cool stuff.
    (2) No one else had said that stuff.
    (2) Therefore, God exists.

  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #9 - July 18, 2011, 03:13 AM

    ARGUMENT FROM BLINDNESS (II)
    (1) God is love.
    (2) Love is blind.
    (3) Stevie Wonder is blind.
    (4) Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.
    (5) Therefore, God exists.

     Cheesy Aww geez.


    How can you deny such a strong argument? Especially when it includes Stevie!

     Cheesy

    "Beauty is truth, truth beauty," - that is all
            Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.

    - John Keats
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #10 - July 18, 2011, 03:23 AM

    Seen how perfectly your hand can hold a banana!!!!praise da lawd !!

    "its fashionable to be an ex Muslim these days"
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #11 - September 28, 2011, 09:31 PM

    Proof of Allah's existence:



    Look at how the name of Allah is written! Will ye still not believe?
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #12 - September 28, 2011, 09:50 PM

    Proofs for Existence of Allah!

    Proof of Existence of Allah Through Human Nature - Dr. Sayed Khalil Tabatabai

    Zakir Naik_Scientific Proof of Allah

    Zakir is smart guy...  lol...

    There is no God.. but Allah is God.. loooooooo..

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #13 - September 28, 2011, 09:55 PM

    Tabtabai is such an awesome name.

    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #14 - October 29, 2011, 06:55 AM

    Hi everyone!

     Ask yourself..

    Can you see your face without looking in the mirror?

    That's why, you can't see the existence of God.

    If you can see your own face directly without a mirror.

    Then you can see God's existence... dance

    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #15 - March 20, 2012, 03:50 AM

    If you believe you are a human than you have a soul must.
    Where is smoke there is fire must.So if you think you have soul
    so you have to believe there is one who made that soul.or existence
    of Allah? i am adding  another
    La Ilaha Illallah.
    There is none to be obeyed without Allah.
    Islam is really peaceful if you understand.But we can't realize how peaceful Islam
    is.
    I want to establish Islam in the inner life of everybody.


  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #16 - March 20, 2012, 03:51 AM

    May Allah help me and the Muslim brothers.Ameen
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #17 - March 20, 2012, 03:57 AM

    ^ I think the spirit of the thread went over your head.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #18 - March 20, 2012, 06:00 AM

    And that hive is definitely giving the celestial beekeeper the finger.
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #19 - March 20, 2012, 10:55 AM

    If you believe you are a human than you have arsehole must.
    Where is smoke there is weed must.So if you think you have arsehole
    so you have to believe there is one who made that arsehole.or existence
    of the arsehole maker ? i am adding  another

    Quote
    refer to Reply #11

  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #20 - May 10, 2012, 11:06 PM

    Qur'an 6:25

    And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."

    Thanks for proving another verse of the Qur'an to be true once AGAIN just like every other verse!

    "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Stephen Hawking
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #21 - May 10, 2012, 11:09 PM

    Awesome. You now have another proof of your god's existence. Hope that makes you happy. parrot

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #22 - June 19, 2012, 06:54 AM

    Qur'an 6:25

    And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."

    Thanks for proving another verse of the Qur'an to be true once AGAIN just like every other verse!


    I believe these verses can be used against you, ameen brudda
  • Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #23 - January 12, 2013, 02:55 PM

    1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause
    2. The universe began to exist
    3. Therefore the universe has a cause
    4. So god exists

     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

    "Knowledge is preferable to ignorance. Better by far to embrace the hard truth than a reassuring fable. If we crave some cosmic purpose, then let us find ourselves a worthy goal." - Carl Sagan
  • Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #24 - January 12, 2013, 06:23 PM

    I am the living proof of existence of God.
     Cheesy

    वासुदैव कुटुम्बकम्
    Entire World is One Family
    سارا سنسار ايک پريوار ہے
  • Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #25 - February 20, 2013, 07:42 PM

    Argument from hatred for Music:
    1) Allah and Muhammed said music is forbidden.
    2) I'm a devoted Muslim and I've always hated music.
    3) Allah exists.

    The fact that Music is actually forbidden in Islam isn't commonly known between westerners, I've made a little research in Arabic about that but translating it into English will take me a lot of effort, I might do it later though. If anyone is interested in the Arabic one you can message me.
  • Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #26 - March 11, 2013, 05:08 PM

    1) I didn't believe in God
    2)But, then, I looked in the mirror
    3)I believe in God

    "The future is bright; only we can get there faster"
  • Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #27 - March 11, 2013, 06:27 PM

    ^^^  Cheesy Has anyone ever used that one.

    The main one I hear is the argument from ignorance.
  • Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #28 - March 23, 2013, 03:00 PM

    There are 24 hours in a day in USA, AND in Egypt, AND even in China. Only Allah could ensure that each country has the same amount of hours in a day
  • Hundreds of Proofs of God's Existence!
     Reply #29 - June 03, 2013, 11:46 PM

     there is no logical proof for god in christianity from all the christians i talked to but for islam we have enough proof and i have talked to dozens of atheist and convinced them  God
    its simple really

    ill summaries because it takes long to prove, btw im going to use a deductive argument for all the people who live of empirical evidence i.e. athiest  Wink,

    1.the universe can 'pop' into existance and 2. it cannot just be...
    so it has to have a cause
    and the cause has to be infinite because then the two above has to be accepted so some where down the line of causes must be an infinite starting point. and this infinite starting point must have a will because since it is infinite it must have chosen for the universe,to come to be  , it wasn't due to chain reactions and this infinite starting point with a will must have power and knowledge for the universe to exist with laws

    i hope thats enough for you Asalamu alaykum

    Smile Smiley
    its Sunnah
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