@Alex
If the unifying bond of the Muslim faithful is the Lord God Himself, as distinct from a shared moral outlook, why do they not form a single Ummah with the Christers, the Hebrews and the People of the Book? They’ve been raiding each other’s villages, gold and livestock since the sons of Adam first put on a loincloth, picked up a spear and organised a tribal skirmish. No love is on display, no Ummah, no synchronised bowing and scraping and takbeering!
The Quran you say is the solidifying gel. What a drink-sodden pond life you are. From where do the moral values stem if not the Quran? Another fellow might argue that you are the prince of tautology, but since I don’t know what that is, let me refrain.
@ MaB
I am surprised that I need to break things down for you as if you were a fourth-grader... Christers and Yahoodis have different gods, for Buddha's sake. Did you read what I said: "God tells them they are brothers"? When did Jesus say that Mohammedans and Jews are brothers? Are you exhausted or did you go vegan? Read what I said; I believe the term was "fear of God", which is to say fear of eternal breakdancing in jahannam. Can you think of a stronger reason to love someone you would normally hate? Can you, akhi?
Did I say that the Koran is the unifier? No. I said "the key is sacredness". Al-Qur'aan happens to be only a part of it.
Where do they take common values if not from the Koran, you ask. Let's assume for the moment that common values are the unifier (which it is not). How can Al-Coran unify muslimoon, when 90% of them could not tell you more than 3% of the content of the book? Besides Al_fatiha, Al-Feel, Al-Ikhlas and An-nasr what do they know? To say that the Koran or even common values is the unifier is daft, as someone intelligent used to say. However none of them will touch the book they don't understand after some good love making, without gallons upon gallons of showers and soap.
Done with the Koran nonsense, now common values. Surely ummah could have common values even when illiterate. That's what mullahs are for, I think. People have already pointed out the variety of values that true believers have, yet it doesn't sit easy with your false assumptions, so you accuse them all of kufr. What a Wahhabi you are! Since you're acting a bit slow lately, I will give you an example. Consider the case of our forum member and self proclaimed Muslim - debunker. He's the biggest heretic that Islam has seen; he thinks most of his brothers are retarded mushrikoon, yet try to guess were his sympathies lie, when he's alone in his room? It is irrelevant that debunker may join the ranks of kafiroon one day. Right now he has more common values with average ex-muslim here than any salafi or sufi or deobandi on the planet. Do you understand now? What do the muslims have common? - 1. Fear of God [Allah, the God of the Koran, not the Bible] and 2. sanctity of Al-Islam.
To clarify
even further for you, no atheists with identical values on earth can be as brotherly as most different mu'minoon, for there's nothing sacred and there's no fear breakdancing in jahannam if you bitch slap your fellow humanist or leave them alone in a forrest to be gang raped by horny Russian bears.
I hope you have vaseline ready, baby
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