Will Ancient Quranic Manuscripts Spell the Downfall of Islam?

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Re: Will Ancient Quranic Manuscripts Spell the Downfall of Islam?
Reply #30 - October 30, 2010, 07:00 AM

Yeah except for the pesky hadiths that say there are verses missing and parts of verses missing

Oh also the pesky part about the naming of chapters was not not done my Muhammad (not all of them I don't think) nor was the the ordering.

Was the Quran ever meant to be collected?

The hadiths basically showed Mohammad telling Abu Bakr not to worry about it.

And I wonder why? Is it because abrogation would then be more difficult?
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Reply #31 - October 30, 2010, 07:18 AM

Quote from: atheist.pk on October 30, 2010, 06:06 AM
Actually, according to Muslims, Uthman's intervention was for the 'standardisation' of the Quran so that the same copy of the Quran, with its specific zer zabr tashdid punctuations etc, was read across all conquered Muslim territories. The Quran to them was not corrupt but because of bad punctuation etc the words would start sounding a lot differently with different meanings.

So Uthman ordered the formation of a set standardised script and ordered all those copies that did not follow that script to be taken back and burned. Muslims will say Uthman did that to STOP the Quran from becoming corrupt in the future.

not according to several sources I have come across - the reason the Quran was burned was because it had already become corrupted, and there were many different copies in existance.

I think you are looking at some apologists wishful interpretation.

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Re: Will Ancient Quranic Manuscripts Spell the Downfall of Islam?
Reply #32 - December 10, 2010, 11:43 AM

Ancient Quranic Manuscripts

Oldest Yemeni Quran differs from Uthman Quran today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLSEaPxePZc

Are the Original Qurans burnt by Caliph Uthman? Ahmad Deedat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOmItec4Tzs&feature=fvw

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Re: Will Ancient Quranic Manuscripts Spell the Downfall of Islam?
Reply #33 - December 10, 2010, 12:25 PM

Pfft. That's old news, Yeezevee, get with it
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