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  • The Sahaba
     OP - November 24, 2010, 09:37 PM

    Wow I can't believe I found this website, it's awesome! I can see everyone loves to rant about Islam and I hope to join in the fun!

    I remeber we had to always glorify the Sahaba even though they had many faults. I remeber reading this hadith

    Abu Dharr was once engaged in an argument with Bilal. In the heat of the disagreement, Abu Dharr addressed Bilal as “You son of a black woman!” Bilal’s response was not to insult Abu Dharr as some Muslims might do today. He immediately went to Rasullallah (saw) and relayed what Abu Dharr had said. The Prophet addressing Abu Dharr said “You have exceeded the limit O Abu Dharr ! You still have traces of Jahilliyah in your mind. There is no difference between an Arab and a non-Arab except by Taqwa “

    Bilal sounds like such a little grass, "Oh boo hoo he insulted me, Mohamad do something!"
  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #1 - November 24, 2010, 09:43 PM

    Before you get crackin', let us have an introduction at least so we can at least welcome you here  bunny

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  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #2 - November 24, 2010, 09:46 PM

    I am a ex mslim of Bosnian heritage, I became more practicing in Islam as a teen. I left Islam because of many things, but verse 4:34 was what really did it. After reading that I knew that there was no God.  dance
  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #3 - November 24, 2010, 09:49 PM

    How did you find us?

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  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #4 - November 24, 2010, 09:51 PM

    google
  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #5 - November 24, 2010, 09:56 PM

    Well good to see Google is on our side.  If you know any other ex-muslims send them over here too.  We need to build up our numbers before the Muslim militias turn us Dummy's into Dhimmis

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  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #6 - November 24, 2010, 10:03 PM

    ^ it seems muslims cant even run their own countries properly, let alone conquering others.
  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #7 - November 24, 2010, 10:06 PM

    ^ it seems muslims cant even run their own countries properly, let alone conquering others.


    hahahahaha
  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #8 - November 24, 2010, 11:28 PM

    Wait!  I'm the interrogator Islame!

    *clears throat*
    OKey...
    Does anyone know about your apostacy?
    How old are you?
    When did u leave Islam?
    Do you live in the west?
    What is the situation of the Islamic Society in Bosnia?
    Are you a guy or girl?
    Are you hott??  
    Anyways..... signwelcome

    "A good man is so hard to find but a hard man is so good to find"
  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #9 - November 24, 2010, 11:36 PM

    asl?

    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #10 - November 24, 2010, 11:37 PM

    If you know any other ex-muslims send them over here too.  We need to build up our numbers before the Muslim militias turn us Dummy's into Dhimmis

     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #11 - November 26, 2010, 01:08 AM

    In this installment we are going to discuss Khadijah, and her manipulation of Mo, along with my theory of her masterminding this whole Islam nonsense. First, we need to examine the relationship between Mo and Khadijah. I think of it as similar to the relationship between Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore, except much more sinister. The vile Medinan phase Mo is in stark contrast to the the happy go lucky Pre-Hijrah Mo. In other words, in stark contrast to the way Mo lived most of his life before and after the "Prophethood".

    Let's do a little recap of Mo's life Before he became a "Prophet"

    - His father died was his was a toddler

    - Then soon after his mother died

    - He was then looked after by his beloved grandfather,and then he died

    Many of families within the Quraysh tribe grew rich from trade routes, but while well respected, Mo's family was not wealthy. He grew up as a humble Shepard, some of the values he learned here as displayed by his prohibition ones garment dragging on the ground, and the threat of hellfire that accompanies it. while many may dismiss this as crazy, (especially since it leads to modern day Muslims like Zakir Naik looking like a "Bollywood Forest Gump" with pubes glued to his face), But the intention is a genuine one. The origins lay in wealthy merchants dragging their skirt like Izar on the ground, an since there were no washing machines they simply purchased new ones everyday. They flew high, they were ballin, while Mo was not at all ballin.

    This all changed when Mo was 25 and he married Khadijah, under strange circumstances too, I might add. Mo was a shepherd, and if anyone knows what being a Shepard entails, its a solitary job. Muhammad was too poor to marry and spent most of his time reflecting to himself. Many portray Mo as opportunistic in his marriage to Khadijah, but I see the total opposite. Khadijah was a shrewd business woman, akin to the successful women of today, you don't get there by being naive. Not getting into specifics of the pre-islamic sexual practises, but Khadijah was most certainly an very experienced lady, who knew how to manipulate men. And in Mo she saw an easy mark.

    Despite being a much sought after widow/divorcee, Khadijah refused all suitors and sought out Mo because she needed him to supervise a trade caravan, despite having no experience as a caravan trader, her reason for seeking him out was due to his "honesty" (anyone can watch a Lindsay Lohan flick and see the same maneuver). Upon his completion of the assignment was so impressed that she "decided" to marry him (she proposed to him). Mo eagerly accepted as she filled the mother figure role that he had been craving all his life, while at the same time being a lover. Freud aside, you can see how easily a vulnerable young man can be manipulated in such a way.

    It was over the next 15 years that she and her uncle groomed him to be a "Prophet" and later a despot. Destroying his previous persona and creating a new one that is suitable to her vision. He went from a humble Shepard to a vain man that neve went anywhere without a mirror, comb, and scissors. Strutting about is Syrian cloaks and other fine garments not suited to a simple shepherd but more to the pimp had become. Who do you think schooled him to the game? He obviosly learned from Khadijah him how to be a skilled lover and manipulator of women, because he certainly didn't learn it from his sheep. At least I hope not.

    During the early prophethood the "revelation" came in short poem like surahs that were more than likely composed and rehearsed well before their initial revelation. They contained only flowers and sunshine, as Mo was a happy person, he finally had a mother figure that he longed for all his life (After all, his grandfather and Uncle could only do so much). He was also financially secure and respected in the community. He spent the days lazing about without a care in the world. But this later changed as Khadijah grew older, and her plan was not coming into fruition (as they had been at it for years) and results were coming in slowly. So she began to push him in a more sinister direction, similar to the elder Robert the Brus portrayal from the movie "Braveheart".  Unable to seek the throne personally due to his disfiguring leprosy, he plots to put his son on the throne, pulling the strings from behind the scenes. In the case of Khadijah, the fact that she was a woman blocked her path to leadership. It was unheard for a woman to be a merchant trader, let alone a successful one, she succeeded by manipulating men into doing her bidding. It takes a very ambitious person to accomplish this.

    I will hope to expand more on this in the future, but for now here is our current cast of characters (in order of appearance):

    Ashton Kutcher (with a bad spray tan) as Pre Hijrah Mo



    Demi Moore as Khadijah



    Ben Kingsley as Khadijah's Uncle



    Robert Downey Jr (in blackface) as Bilal

  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #12 - November 26, 2010, 01:10 AM

    Are you hott??  


    I look like sex.
  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #13 - November 26, 2010, 01:41 AM

    Wait!  I'm the interrogator Islame!

    *clears throat*
    OKey...
    Does anyone know about your apostacy?
    How old are you?
    When did u leave Islam?
    Do you live in the west?
    What is the situation of the Islamic Society in Bosnia?
    Are you a guy or girl?
    Are you hott??  
    Anyways..... signwelcome

     Cheesy  You gotta love Saathiya. dance

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  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #14 - November 26, 2010, 08:50 AM

    I will hope to expand more on this in the future, but for now here is our current cast of characters (in order of appearance):

    Ashton Kutcher (with a bad spray tan) as Pre Hijrah Mo

    Demi Moore as Khadijah

    Ben Kingsley as Khadijah's Uncle

    Robert Downey Jr (in blackface) as Bilal

    lol @ your casting couch  Smiley

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  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #15 - November 26, 2010, 10:55 AM

    Wow I can't believe I found this website, it's awesome! I can see everyone loves to rant about Islam and I hope to join in the fun!

    I remeber we had to always glorify the Sahaba even though they had many faults. I remeber reading this hadith

    Abu Dharr was once engaged in an argument with Bilal. In the heat of the disagreement, Abu Dharr addressed Bilal as “You son of a black woman!” Bilal’s response was not to insult Abu Dharr as some Muslims might do today. He immediately went to Rasullallah (saw) and relayed what Abu Dharr had said. The Prophet addressing Abu Dharr said “You have exceeded the limit O Abu Dharr ! You still have traces of Jahilliyah in your mind. There is no difference between an Arab and a non-Arab except by Taqwa “

    Bilal sounds like such a little grass, "Oh boo hoo he insulted me, Mohamad do something!"

    I am glad to see this thread., Pauk started it but as usual it is drifting away and it happens in all forums. So let me get back to "The Sahaba" and greetings + welcome to CEMB dear Pauk .

    This "Sahaba" (Companions of Muhammad) is indeed responsible for Quran, Hadith, Sunnah  and Islam and why Islam spread  so quickly with in 50 years of its birth from that  Saudi  desert.  The most widespread definition of a companion of Prophet of Islam is someone who saw Muhammad, believed in him and died a Muslim. Those that saw him but held off believing in him until after his passing are not considered Sahaba but Tabi`in. Lists of prominent companions usually run to 50 or 60 names, being the people most closely associated with Muhammad. However, there were clearly many others who had some contact with Muhammad, and their names and biographies were recorded in religious reference texts such as Ibn Sa'd al-Baghdadi's (Muḥammad ibn Sa'd) early Kitāb at-Tabāqat al-Kabīr (The book of The Major Classes).

    Throughout Islamic history, It was important to identify the companions because later scholars accepted their testimony (the hadith, or traditions) as to the words and deeds of Muhammad, the occasions on which the Qur'an was revealed, and various important matters of Islamic history and practice (sunnah). The testimony of the companions, as it was passed down through chains of trusted narrators (isnads), was the basis of the developing Islamic tradition. in Fact often Muslims fight themselves and even go to war on this very subject of Sahaba  "Who is real companion of Muhammad  and who is not".  Shia/Sunni killings in Pakistan  is a classical example of that.

    Shi'a Muslims do not accept all companions as just. The Shi'a believe that after the death of Muhammad, the majority of the sahabah turned aside from true Islam and deviated from Muhammad's family, instead electing the caliph by themselves. Although some of the sahabah repented later, only a few of the early Muslims held fast to Ali, whom Shi'a Muslims regard as the rightful successor to Muhammad. Shi'a scholars therefore deprecate hadith believed to have been transmitted through unjust companions, and place much more reliance on hadith believed to have been related by Muhammad's family members and companions who supported Ali.

    Where as According to Sunni scholars, Muslims of the past should be considered companions if they had any contact with Muhammad, and they were not liars or opposed to him and his teachings. If they saw him, heard him, or were in his presence even briefly, they are companions. Blind people are considered companions even if they could not see Muhammad. Even unlearned Muslims are considered companions. However, anyone who died after rejecting Islam and becoming an apostate is not considered a companion. "Whom God is pleased with" (Arabic: رضي الله عنه‎ raḍiyu l-Lāhu ‘anhu) is usually mentioned by Sunnis after the names of the Sahaba.

    Do not let silence become your legacy  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #16 - November 26, 2010, 04:37 PM

    Welcome, Spider  Wink

    I actually bought 'Hayatus Sahaba.'  I should get around to reading it eventually.  grin12
  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #17 - November 26, 2010, 05:04 PM

    lol @ your casting couch  Smiley


    Glad you like it. I'm open to suggestions as well.
    I am glad to see this thread., Pauk started it but as usual it is drifting away and it happens in all forums. So let me get back to "The Sahaba" and greetings + welcome to CEMB dear Pauk .


    Thank you for the kind Dear Yeezevee, I hop that we can keep this thread on topic (see below) and get through all of the Sahaba.

    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

    Cheesy  You gotta love Saathiya. dance


    What is this? Is it really necessary to make an off topic reply to a post that you already read?

    On top of that you come in here and do not welcome me?

    Someone escort this individual from my set.

    Welcome, Spider  Wink

    I actually bought 'Hayatus Sahaba.'  I should get around to reading it eventually.  grin12


    Ah, if you are looking for sordid tales of debauchery, you will find yourself quite disappointed.  It contains highly fictionalized accounts of the "heroics" of the Sahaba. The Moslem scholars will even admit that, and claim that spinning such yarns will boost "morale".


    Does anyone have any questions or concerns  before we move onto the next installment?  Anyone?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxPVyieptwA

  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #18 - November 26, 2010, 05:39 PM

    In the years leading up to Khadijah's death the "dawah" of Mo was definitely ramped up. He became an agitator, he constantly berated the Quraysh in regards to "polytheism" and openly preached despite their less than subtle efforts to dissuade him. This was at the behest of Khadijah as she sensed her days were numbered (and also her Uncle's who was supplying them with religious knowledge). To put it simply, she was senior citizen in 7th century Arabia, imagine what Demi Moore would look like without all the creams, and surgery, and botox, not to mention the total absence of healthcare (aside from bloodletting and recitation of mantras). However, Mo remained devoted to her, despite the probability that she had lost any beauty she once had. This is due to his intense need for a mother figure.

    Even before the death of his mother he was separated from her as a baby, sent away to live with a bedoin family, and being breat fed by the Bedouin woman instead of his own mother. Because they thought it would make him stronger.

    Mo clearly loved Khadijah, despite the fact it was not mutual and she was clearly using him. I think he understood this on some level, but chose to block it out, for obvious reasons. It was when Khadijah died that he truly snapped. He had lost his mother figure for the second time in his life, not to mention his chief conspirator, and false prophethood weighed heavily on his shoulders. But he had also gone too far, what was set into motion could not be stopped. He was No longer in control.

    It is also at this time that the "quran" swayed from the lines of poetry asking people to reflect on the beauty of nature and the Arab folktales about Ad and Thamud, to stories about Jewish beliefs, lengthy surahs consisting of blah, blah, blah Moses. Half the fucking Quran is full of "Musa's" wacky misadventures. This is clearly due to the his collaboration with the Jew who turned Muslim, Abdollah ibn Salam. He received coaching in regards to Christian belief as well by Salman al Farisi but he spent most of his life as a Zoaroastrian and had only recently become Christian, so he did not provide much help. That's why the quran is so full of the strange beliefs of Arab Jews.

    It was also at this time that Mo displayed his penchant for Paedophilia. After Khadijah died, he first married a widow, obviously seeking out a replacemnt for the mother figure Khadijah was. But it just wasn't the same. So his next order of business was to marry a six year old child. It's clear that he was inclined towards children, as he encouraged his companions to do the same. He spent three years waiting to marry Aisha. In that time he made a series of marriages to undesirable divorcees and widows for political purposes. He charmed them using the skills of manipulation that Khadijah had taught him.

    While I believe that Aisha entered the marriage as an innocent victim, she had recognized that Mo was completely smitten with her (or children in general) and quickly turned the tables on him. Most likely being coached by Mo's other wives or her female relatives, she became extremely manipulative, mentally abused him, and totally controlled his life (one might say he deserved this). The hadiths paint a clear picture, also this is the position of Shia Muslims. Some even going as far as to say Aisha murdered Mo. But they all agree on her infidelity and abhorrent character. If you even look at the Sunni account of "The Slander" anyone can clearly see she is guilty. "Oh I lost my bracelet in the desert and he was helping me find it".  Roll Eyes

    Look at the aftermath of that incident, Mo was a wreck, emotionally crippled by one of the biggest blows he has taken in his life. Instead of acknowledging the obvious (Her excuse was the equivalent of "I slipped and fell on his...), he tried to pretend it didn't happen.  Going to the extent of having "God" vouch for her innocence and violently punishing her accusers, not to mention threatening anyone who does so in the future with physical harm. This was the extent of the control that Aisha exerted over him. He made up pages of the "Quran" based on this incident containing laws that he intended to force onto all of mankind based on her.

    Aisha's manipulation of Mo and his "Islam" continued well after his death. Her father came into control of the Islamic criminal enterprise in a somewhat controversial manner after the sudden onset of fever and dementia that struck Mo (similar to being poisoned) and caused his death. In fact his death came about so suddenly that he had no time to choose a successor. Even after her father's death she continued to scheme and manipulate, even becoming involved in wars and disputes amongst the rest of the "Sahaba", most likely over who receives the proceeds from the protection racket Zakat.

    Updated cast (in order of appearance)

    Paul Giamatti as Post Hijrah Mo



    Bronson Pinchot as Abu Bakr (Mo's lovable side kick)



    A young Sarah Michelle Geller as Aisha (her character in Cruel Intentions was actually based on Aisha)



    Adam Goldberg as Abdollah ibn Salam



    Sacha Baron Cohen as Salman al Farisi


  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #19 - November 26, 2010, 07:07 PM

    ".....(her character in Cruel Intentions was actually based on Aisha)..."

    source please ....

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  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #20 - November 26, 2010, 07:09 PM


    Fun posts, Pauk Afro

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #21 - November 26, 2010, 09:54 PM

    What is this? Is it really necessary to make an off topic reply to a post that you already read?

    On top of that you come in here and do not welcome me?

    Someone escort this individual from my set.

    Sorry to go off topic, dude.  Although you will notice that most threads go on and off topic slightly.

    I was waiting for you to create an intro thread in the introductions section.  IsLame has already asked you to do that.  We can all welcome you here if you want, but that would go off topic. Wink

    Anyway...  signwelcome

    Interesting (and funny) psychological take on the founding of Islam. Afro  We haven't had a thread like this for as long as I can remember.

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  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #22 - November 27, 2010, 01:18 AM

    Ah, if you are looking for sordid tales of debauchery, you will find yourself quite disappointed.  It contains highly fictionalized accounts of the "heroics" of the Sahaba. The Moslem scholars will even admit that, and claim that spinning such yarns will boost "morale".


     Cry
  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #23 - November 27, 2010, 02:56 AM

    In this installment we are going to discuss Khadijah, and her manipulation of Mo, along with my theory of her masterminding this whole Islam nonsense. First, we need to examine the relationship between Mo and Khadijah. I think of it as similar to the relationship between Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore, except much more sinister. The vile Medinan phase Mo is in stark contrast to the the happy go lucky Pre-Hijrah Mo. In other words, in stark contrast to the way Mo lived most of his life before and after the "Prophethood".

    Let's do a little recap of Mo's life Before he became a "Prophet"

    - His father died was his was a toddler

    - Then soon after his mother died

    - He was then looked after by his beloved grandfather,and then he died

    Many of families within the Quraysh tribe grew rich from trade routes, but while well respected, Mo's family was not wealthy. He grew up as a humble Shepard, some of the values he learned here as displayed by his prohibition ones garment dragging on the ground, and the threat of hellfire that accompanies it. while many may dismiss this as crazy, (especially since it leads to modern day Muslims like Zakir Naik looking like a "Bollywood Forest Gump" with pubes glued to his face), But the intention is a genuine one. The origins lay in wealthy merchants dragging their skirt like Izar on the ground, an since there were no washing machines they simply purchased new ones everyday. They flew high, they were ballin, while Mo was not at all ballin.

    This all changed when Mo was 25 and he married Khadijah, under strange circumstances too, I might add. Mo was a shepherd, and if anyone knows what being a Shepard entails, its a solitary job. Muhammad was too poor to marry and spent most of his time reflecting to himself. Many portray Mo as opportunistic in his marriage to Khadijah, but I see the total opposite. Khadijah was a shrewd business woman, akin to the successful women of today, you don't get there by being naive. Not getting into specifics of the pre-islamic sexual practises, but Khadijah was most certainly an very experienced lady, who knew how to manipulate men. And in Mo she saw an easy mark.

    Despite being a much sought after widow/divorcee, Khadijah refused all suitors and sought out Mo because she needed him to supervise a trade caravan, despite having no experience as a caravan trader, her reason for seeking him out was due to his "honesty" (anyone can watch a Lindsay Lohan flick and see the same maneuver). Upon his completion of the assignment was so impressed that she "decided" to marry him (she proposed to him). Mo eagerly accepted as she filled the mother figure role that he had been craving all his life, while at the same time being a lover. Freud aside, you can see how easily a vulnerable young man can be manipulated in such a way.

    It was over the next 15 years that she and her uncle groomed him to be a "Prophet" and later a despot. Destroying his previous persona and creating a new one that is suitable to her vision. He went from a humble Shepard to a vain man that neve went anywhere without a mirror, comb, and scissors. Strutting about is Syrian cloaks and other fine garments not suited to a simple shepherd but more to the pimp had become. Who do you think schooled him to the game? He obviosly learned from Khadijah him how to be a skilled lover and manipulator of women, because he certainly didn't learn it from his sheep. At least I hope not.

    During the early prophethood the "revelation" came in short poem like surahs that were more than likely composed and rehearsed well before their initial revelation. They contained only flowers and sunshine, as Mo was a happy person, he finally had a mother figure that he longed for all his life (After all, his grandfather and Uncle could only do so much). He was also financially secure and respected in the community. He spent the days lazing about without a care in the world. But this later changed as Khadijah grew older, and her plan was not coming into fruition (as they had been at it for years) and results were coming in slowly. So she began to push him in a more sinister direction, similar to the elder Robert the Brus portrayal from the movie "Braveheart".  Unable to seek the throne personally due to his disfiguring leprosy, he plots to put his son on the throne, pulling the strings from behind the scenes. In the case of Khadijah, the fact that she was a woman blocked her path to leadership. It was unheard for a woman to be a merchant trader, let alone a successful one, she succeeded by manipulating men into doing her bidding. It takes a very ambitious person to accomplish this.

    I will hope to expand more on this in the future, but for now here is our current cast of characters (in order of appearance):

    Ashton Kutcher (with a bad spray tan) as Pre Hijrah Mo

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    Demi Moore as Khadijah

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    Ben Kingsley as Khadijah's Uncle

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    Robert Downey Jr (in blackface) as Bilal

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    That is some really good story line.. Good work!!

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  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #24 - November 27, 2010, 04:10 AM

    Very interesting observations, Pauk... and welcome to the forum.  Smiley
  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #25 - November 27, 2010, 07:23 AM

    Welcome to the forum!  victory

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  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #26 - November 27, 2010, 07:57 PM

    One may think I was just being dramatic when calling Islam the "Quraysh Crime Family" but it's completely justified. The plan was laid out by Khadijah, Mo and her Uncle long before Mo's annoucement of his prophethood. Not only do Muslims have to "kick up" 2.5% of their earnings every year, they extored and pludered the wealth of non Muslims (and human slaves were just as good as gold), and on top of that they planned to controll all trucking trade routes in and out of Arabia (and eventually did). This was the equivelent of a modern day multi million dollar criminal enterprise.

    The Mozlem "Caliph" has to be the from the Quraysh. All the people of importance in Islam are from the Quraysh as well (except for Bilal who they kept around to sing make athan for them). Mo first reqruited Abu Bakr and his Cousin Ali, and told them of his and Khadijah's plot. It was then that this group presented the the "Islam" as we know it to the world. This inner sanctum had to know, as it would be impossible for Mo alone to masquerade as a Prophet for over 20 years and not get caught. It was a conspiracy.  This even happens today with faith healers and the like. It's either Mo was quite adept at this con, or he lived in a time where it wa easier to pull something like this off.

    The hadiths openly state that that Mo verbalised his wishes to have either "Umar" or "Abu Jahl" join his crew, as Khadjiah had most likely suggested to him. As these were the chiefs of the cartels in Mecca and Umar was known as a fearless "enforcer". It was through a rouse that where Mo allowed himself to exposed to a mudererous Umar, that he got the private counsel he needed to let Umar in on the con. Now, he had Abu Bakr his "consigliere" and Umar his "capo", the Mozlems were set to put in motion their sinister plan.

    At this point Mo was a totally different person from our previous installemt. Think of it like the Godfather, with Khadijah as the old Don, her twisted claw pulling the strings from behind the scenes, like in the famous image. Mo was like Micheal Corleone, a naive and innocent young man thrust into a role he did not ask for. It was the police captain punching him in the face that allowed him to step into the role of Don after the deather of Vito (Khadijah). Aisha's infidelity had little to do with lust, but was merely a way to completely break Mo and turn him into the man he needed to become, she was like the police captain, punching him in the only way she knew how. He had become complacent in his kiddy fiddling ways, he was a rockstar, everyone thought him to be a Prophet and he had forgotten the big plan.

    She needed Mo to man up, as there had to be bloodshed in order to carry these plans out. Notice, how around this same time "God" all of a sudden wanted the Mozlems to wage holy war. Mo also had to keep his stable of sex hungry wives happy. If we remeber the comical tale of Umar spying on Mo's wife while going to the washroom (and the hijab being revealed) the hadith states that his wife was fat. This is most likely the case with many of Mo's wives as they were undesirable divorced and widowed women, but they had money and family connetions that Mo needed. His marathon sex sessions are begining to sound more like the labouries tasks that were faced by "Duece Bigalow".

    One may ask, why would Aisha want to brainwash Mo in order to make sure thee sinister plans are carried out? It is because (according to hadiths) her father (Abu Bakr) used his entire fortune to bankroll the whole operation. Now, we could beleive that Abu Bakr and Aisha just loved their "Creator" so much they were willing to donate everything, or they could just be shrewd busisnesspeople looking to secure a return on their investemnt.

    But she created a Frankenstein if you will. Mo became increasingly unstable until she was not even able to control him. It began with simple things, like Mo using "God" to justify his own actions involving his personal life with Aisha. When she said in the hadiths "Your god seem to conviently back your decisions" (paraphrased) this was an inside joke between them both, as they both knew there was no "God". It progressed into Mo taking out his negative feelings towards Aisha on all women through the Quran (such as 434). She had to push him over the edge, because she needed a ruthless individual to carry out the mission. But he eventaully became so uncrtrollable she had to kill him.

    Updated Cast (in Order of appearance)

    Temuera Morrison as Mentally broken Mo (cook the man some eggs)



    Micheal Imperioli as Ali



    The Wb Frog as Post athan Bilal (its the dubleyaaabbbbbbbb)



    Dwayne Johnson as Umar

  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #27 - November 27, 2010, 10:29 PM

    So have you sent the script to Stephen Speilberg yet?

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  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #28 - November 27, 2010, 10:44 PM

    Hi Pauk.

    Brilliant stuff, deliciously blasphemous!
  • Re: The Sahaba
     Reply #29 - June 14, 2011, 02:49 PM

    This is such an important topic that is in dormant and not discussed in detail, so in continuation of this post let me add some stories of sahaba cases that are quite popular in Islamic world..

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    Amr Bin Al-Aas:  

    Amr b Al-Aas, pre-Islamic period

    'Amr b Al-Aas was a prominent member of the Banu Sahm section of the Quraish. His father Al-Aas b Wail was the chief of the Banu Sahm and was a well to do merchant who commanded great influence among the Quraish of Makkah. When the Holy Prophet of Islam announced his mission, Al-Aas was one of the prominent members of the Quraish who pressed all their influence into service to oppose the Holy Prophet and torture the Muslims.

    Hisham a brother of 'Amr, however, accepted Islam in the early years of the mission of the Holy Prophet, and in spite of the pressure of his father did not recant from Islam. Hisham was one of the Muslims to migrate to Abysinnia. 'Amr headed the delegation that the Quraish sent to Abysinnia to prevail upon the ruler of Abysinnia to turn away the Muslims from his country. The mission failed and the ruler of Abysinnia refused to oblige the Quraish. After the migration of the Holy Prophet to Madina 'Amr took part in all the battles that the Quraish fought against the Muslims.

    Conversion to Islam

    After the pact of Hudaibiya, the truth dawned on 'Amr b Al-Aas and he hastened to Madina along with Khalid b Walid where they accepted Islam. After conversion to Islam, 'Amr b Al-Aas proved to be a great asset for Islam. The Holy Prophet entrusted him with some important missions which he fulfilled successfully; Later the Holy Prophet appointed him as the Governor of Oman. After the death of the Holy Prophet, when Abu Bakr became the Caliph he was recalled from Oman to lead campaigns against some of the apostate tribes. After the end of the apostasy wars he was commissioned to undertake campaigns in Palestine and Syria. During the Caliphate of Umar he invaded Egypt and conquered it. In the history of Islam he enjoys fame as the "Conqueror of Egypt". Umar appointed him as the Governor of Egypt. When Othman became the Caliph, he allowed 'Amr to continue as the Governor of Egypt for some time. Later 'Amr was deposed and Othman appointed his foster brother as the Governor of Egypt.

     
    Amr's opposition to Othman

    'Amr b Al-Aas felt much grieved at his deposition. Back in Madina, 'Amr had an interview with Othman which ended in bitterness. He began to criticize the administration of Othman in harsh terms. He played an important part in fanning discontent against the caliphate of Othman. In the revolt against Othman, the Egyptians were in the forefront and one of the grievances of the Egyptians was the deposition of 'Amr b Al-Aas from the governorship of Egypt 'Amr b Al-Aas made no secret of his opposition to Othman. He openly challenged Othman that he would raise the entire Muslim world against him. When the revolt against Othman gained momentum, and Madina came to be thronged with rebels from various parts of the Muslim world, 'Amr b Al-Aas left Madina for his lands in Palestine. He was in Palestine when Othman was assassinated.


    Caliphate of Ali


    After the assassination of Othman, 'Amr b Al-Aas decided to follow a policy of neutrality and watch further developments. When Ali was elected as the Caliph, 'Amr b Al-Aas neither took the oath of allegiance to Ali nor opposed him. 'Amr b Al-Aas had expected that Ali would offer him the governorship of Egypt. If Ali had offered him the governorship of Egypt he would have offered him allegiance. In the absence of such offer 'Amr b Al-Aas decided to remain in Palestine and watch further developments. Ali appointed Qais b Sa'ad as the Governor of Egypt. Qais proved to be a good Governor, and he kept Egypt safe for Ali. Muawiyah succeeded in creating differences between Ali and Qais which culminated in the deposition of Qais. Amr b Al-Aas expected that Ali would in his own interests appoint him as the Governor of Egypt. When Ali appointed Muhammad b Abu Bakr as the Governor of Egypt, 'Amr b Al-Aas despaired of any recognition from Ali. That threw him in the lap of Muawiyah.

     
    Muawiyah and 'Amr b Al-Aas

    Muawiyah was shrewd enough to see that for any confrontation with Ali, it was necessary that Egypt should be wrested from the control of Ali. It was plain enough that if Egypt was to be with Ali, Egypt could very well thrust a dagger in the back of Syria. It was in this context that Muawiyah tried to get Qais removed from the governorship. He succeeded in this effort when Ali deposed Qais b Sa'ad and appointed Muhammad b Abu Bakr in his place as the Governor of Egypt.

     Muhammad b Abu Bakr was a rash impetuous young man, and Muawyiah felt sure that he would not be able to effectively control the affairs of Egypt. Muawiyah's plan was to create disturbances in Egypt, and take advantage of such disturbances to capture Egypt. For this purpose he needed a man who commanded influence in Egypt. When he looked around he realized that the most suitable person in this behalf was 'Amr b Al-Aas. He accordingly invited 'Amr b Al-Aas to Damascus. When 'Amr came to Damascus he was given an almost royal reception. The two men agreed to make common cause against Ali. Muawiyah decided to make 'Amr the Commander-in-Chief of his forces.

    He was also promised the governorship of Egypt on the conquest of that province. Such alliance between Muawiyah and 'Amr b Al-Aas was to prove a great setback for Ali. It is strange that Muawiyah fought against Ali to claim vengeance for the blood of Othman, and yet entrusted the command of his forces to a man who had actually incited the Egyptians to revolt, and had openly defied and thrown a challenge to Othman.

    That is from one of my Favorite web site

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