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 Topic: "Benefit Scroungers"

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  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #30 - November 11, 2010, 03:00 AM

    Screw you, Maya! Yours truly has a gingerish goatee and dark brown/black hair.  Smiley I dunno why but the hair on my face is lighter than that on my head. Apparently Leonard Nimoy is the same-- which I didn't notice until you so RUDELY and INSULTINGLY pointed it out!  finmad

    fuck you
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #31 - November 11, 2010, 03:05 AM

    a revolution forged through fear and blood is no revolution at all


    Really? So the French Revolution didn't really smash feudal power? The American Revolution didn't throw off colonial power and establish a republican government? The Russian Revolution didn't end the reign of the czar? The US Civil War didn't smash slavery and Southern feudalism?

    If those things aren't revolutions, what the hell are?

    Damn hippie.

    fuck you
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #32 - November 11, 2010, 03:09 AM

    Do I really need to point out how war changes nothing? That ideals matter for nothing if you are willing to kill to get there?
    Sure, those were massive social changes, but in your own terms, all that changed was the "ruling class", the average man was still being ruled and that has never changed and never will as long as violence is part of it.

    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #33 - November 11, 2010, 03:25 AM

    Do I really need to point out how war changes nothing?


    No, what you need to do is demonstrate that statement is true.

    Quote
    Sure, those were massive social changes,


    Also known as "revolution"

    Quote
    but in your own terms, all that changed was the "ruling class",


    Yeah, and that kinda matters. The bourgeoisie is a better class to be our masters than kings and feudal lords were, and, in turn, the proletariat will be a better class to be masters than the bourgeoisie because it means that those who produce will finally have control over their own production, and thus humanity will be emancipated.

    Quote
    the average man was still being ruled and that has never changed and never will as long as violence is part of it.


    Please demonstrate that freedom must come about non-violently.

    fuck you
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #34 - November 11, 2010, 03:53 AM

    Screw you, Maya! Yours truly has a gingerish goatee and dark brown/black hair.  Smiley I dunno why but the hair on my face is lighter than that on my head. Apparently Leonard Nimoy is the same-- which I didn't notice until you so RUDELY and INSULTINGLY pointed it out!  finmad


    I'm the same. I have dark brown hair, but my facial hair is orange and blonde, what the hell is up with that?

    "The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshiped anything but himself."
    ~Sir Richard Francis Burton

    "I think religion is just like smoking: Both invented by people, addictive, harmful, and kills!"
    ~RIBS
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #35 - November 11, 2010, 12:25 PM

    Ooops.  Sorry didn't mean to offend or insult anyone here, just I've never seen it before and it kinda looked "photoshopped" to me.    Kiss


    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #36 - November 11, 2010, 09:01 PM

    She is serious. She's not an Uncle Tom suckin on the capitalist dick like you.


    Oi, Q-Man, read all of this:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80%932010

    Now, do you still blame all the bankers?

    Answer the question!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j0eqZKTjpk
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #37 - November 11, 2010, 10:11 PM

    A peaceful students demo, hijacked by the SWP, UAF and other left wing numpties.

    Arthur.
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #38 - November 11, 2010, 10:37 PM

    Oi, Q-Man, read all of this:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80%932010

    Now, do you still blame all the bankers?

    Answer the question!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j0eqZKTjpk


    Yes. But I never said I thought only the bankers were to blame.

    fuck you
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #39 - November 11, 2010, 10:52 PM

    A peaceful students demo, hijacked by the SWP, UAF and other left wing numpties.

    Arthur.

    If only the EDL had been on hand to help create a peaceful atmosphere...

    Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek.
    Propagandhi - Failed States
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #40 - November 11, 2010, 10:54 PM

     Cheesy

    fuck you
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #41 - November 11, 2010, 11:47 PM

    Quote
    We need unity to break the Con-Dems’ attacks
    Stand with the protesters against victimisation


    Wednesday’s national NUS/UCU 50,000 strong national demonstration was a magnificent show of strength against the Con Dems’ savage attacks on education. The Tories want to make swingeing cuts, introduce £9,000 tuition fees and cut EMA. These attacks will close the doors to higher education and further education for a generation of young people.

    During the demonstration over 5,000 students showed their determination to defend the future of education by occupying the Tory party HQ and its courtyards for several hours. The mood was good-spirited, with chants, singing and flares.

    Yet at least 32 people have now been arrested, and the police and media appear to be launching a witch-hunt condemning peaceful protesters as “criminals” and violent.

    A great deal is being made of a few windows smashed during the protest, but the real vandals are those waging a war on our education system.

    We reject any attempt to characterise the Millbank protest as small, “extremist” or unrepresentative of our movement.

    We celebrate the fact that thousands of students were willing to send a message to the Tories that we will fight to win. Occupations are a long established tradition in the student movement that should be defended. It is this kind of action in France and Greece that has been an inspiration to many workers and students in Britain faced with such a huge assault on jobs, benefits, housing and the public sector.

    We stand with the protesters, and anyone who is victimised as a result of the protest.

    Initial signatories include (all in a personal capacity):

    Mark Bergfeld, NUS NEC

    Sean Rillo Raczka, Birkbeck SU Chair and NUS NEC (Mature Students’ Rep)

    Vicki Baars, NUS LGBT Officer (Women’s Place)

    Alan Bailey, NUS LGBT Officer (Open Place)

    Kanjay Sesay, NUS Black Students’ Officer

    Matt Bond, NUS Disabled Ctte (Open Place rep)

    Michael Chessum, Education and Campaigns Officer UCL SU

    Jade Baker, Education Officer Westminster Uni SU

    Cameron Tait, University of Sussex Students’ Union President

    Nathan Bolton, Campaigns Officer Essex University Students’ Union

    Clare Solomon, ULU President

    Jim Wolfreys, UCU NEC

    Dr Marion Hersh UCU NEC and Scottish Executive

    Alex Gordon, President, National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers (RMT)

    Lee Hall, playwright ‘Billy Elliot’

    Hilary Wainwright, Transational Institute

    Alex Callinicos, Professor of European Studies King’s College London

    [source]

    Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek.
    Propagandhi - Failed States
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #42 - November 13, 2010, 10:29 PM

    Yes. But I never said I thought only the bankers were to blame.


    Weak, weak, weak Q-Man.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpZhugomNJE

    I don't have the time or energy to argue the whole meltdown (and if you really did read the entire article I wouldn't need to write the following) but because I'm such a nice guy I'll leave you with an extract from the acclaimed book Keynes: The Return of the Master

    Quote
    ‘THE REAL FAILURE
    To understand the crisis we need to get beyond the blame game. For at the root of the crisis was not the failures of character or competence, but a failure of ideas. As Keynes famously remarked, 'The ideas of economists and political philosophers, both when they are right and when they are wrong, are more powerful then is commonly supposed. Indeed the world is ruled by little else'. The practices of bankers, regulators and governments, however egregious, can be traced back to the ideas of economists and philosophers. It is to the ideas of the economists that we now turn, starting with those most recently in fashion. For the present crisis is, to a large extent, the fruit of the intellectual failure of the economics profession.’

  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #43 - November 14, 2010, 01:39 AM

    btw High Octane, who/what do you blame for the banking collapse?

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  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #44 - November 14, 2010, 04:12 AM

    Yo, HO, I got my response to your fuckin post right fuckin here-- handjob

    fuck you
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #45 - November 14, 2010, 08:46 AM

    1) the bankers did get away with a lot (will get away again. banking stays largely unreformed)
    2) the problem of the deserving poor is a hard one. government welfare is extremely inefficient. the indian government spends 2B a year to guarantee jobs for the poor but my guess is more than 50% of that just leaks through.
    3) european working class is headed for troubled times. blue collar jobs will keep migrating to locations where they are paid a tenth or less.
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #46 - November 14, 2010, 09:01 AM

    Weak, weak, weak Q-Man.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpZhugomNJE

    I don't have the time or energy to argue the whole meltdown (and if you really did read the entire article I wouldn't need to write the following) but because I'm such a nice guy I'll leave you with an extract from the acclaimed book Keynes: The Return of the Master



    Keynesianism is even more bogus than free market dogma. there is no correct amount of fiscal stimulus, no way to measure multiplier. there is 0 predictive value to keynsian economics and no way discretionary government regulation(trying to deflate bubbles etc) can help manage the financial sector.
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #47 - November 14, 2010, 11:41 AM

    Oi, Q-Man, read all of this:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80%932010

    Now, do you still blame all the bankers?

    Good point actually.

    As far as I can tell the crisis was systemic and as long as we are subjects to the current socio-economical system crises like this will reoccur from time to time.

    The solution to the problem is therefore obvious.
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #48 - November 14, 2010, 12:13 PM

    Yes the solution is Islam

    We are in favor of tolerance, but it is a very difficult thing to tolerate the intolerant and impossible to tolerate the intolerable.

    -George Dennison Prentice
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #49 - November 14, 2010, 12:36 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiK3e3Tk_4s

    Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek.
    Propagandhi - Failed States
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #50 - November 14, 2010, 12:58 PM

    ROFL Soldiers of Allah I remember listening to these guys way back when.

    SOA are the Justin Timberlakes of the Ummah bringing (sexy) Islam back.

    (dedicated to Allah)

    Dirty babe
    You see these shackles
    Baby I'm your slave
    I'll let you whip me if I misbehave
    It's just that no one makes me feel this way

    Take em' to the chorus
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #51 - November 14, 2010, 01:13 PM

    Yo, HO, I got my response to your fuckin post right fuckin here-- handjob


    Short fuse busts again! Cheesy Translation: "Oh boy ... what do I reply to that ... my brain is exploding - I know, I'll just give an insult to make myself feel better". Going to ignore me again? Go ahead, the forum can do without your lame insults on topics you can't debate or share productive things with.

    EDIT: Btw, do share your historic and liberal insights though, they are actually pretty good I have to say.  Afro

    btw High Octane, who/what do you blame for the banking collapse?


    You know, it's too much to write about, and I guess I honestly don't know enough about it as economists who work in the profession day in day out, but personally from all that I've read it would be on: Alan Greenspan, the SEC, terrible risk management across the board from mortgage lenders to the rating agencies/securitization and investors. However, I do not blame all the bankers, and the bankers who are accountable are just as accountable as the systematic sequence of events which are rooted from the imbalances with the saving glut in China (in my opinion).

    You have to ask yourself: why do economic busts occur - why do black swans occur - and for that you end up into (at least I think) the realms of the human mind and its fallacies which apply to people in finance just as much as it does to everyone else. These are written well in the book The_Ascent_of_Money and some of them include:  availability bias, hindsight bias, problem of induction, the fallacy of conjunction, confirmation bias, contamination effects, the affect heurist, scope neglect, overconfidence in calibration, bystander apathy.

    Personally, if you want an improvement, you need to educated people, all people in whatever profession, to really learn and know about all the limitations of the human mind. We are humans, the world is complex, capitalism is complex and it is just an inevitability that booms and busts will occur. But with knowledge and better control, the cycles can be made shorter so that the overall economic growth (yes, even from the 1940s) still will continue in lands that are politically stable and promote advancement.
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #52 - November 14, 2010, 01:15 PM



    Hahahahahhaahhaah ....
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #53 - November 14, 2010, 03:42 PM

    Wonderful love speech:


    BRING BACK ISLAM
    BRING BACK THE STATE
    When I said no more wait
    I meant..
    NO MORE WAIT!!!!!!
    No more watching brothers die
    No more watching sisters cry
    OH MUSLIM UMMAH RISE!!
    Rise up from these lies
    Rise up from nationalism pride
    Allah is on our side
    WE WILL NEVER COMPROMISE
    MUSLIM FOR LIFE!
    MUSLIMS UNITE!

    Billion and a half Muslims
    They can’t make us or break us
    Don’t judge us aside
    By our faces and places
    COLOR BLIND...!!!
    No spaces for racist
    Travelers in this life
    Your lies can never fool us
    ISLAM IS THE ONLY SOLUTION
    To the problems that face us
    WE WON’T COMPROMISE ISLAM!!
    These kafirs can never take us

    When they drop bombs
    On our brothers...It hits us
    We don’t mix action with our prayer
    Oh Allah......forgive us!
    Let us RISE up for Islam
    Like we RISE UP for fajr at dawn
    Uniting under one flag,
    Using Islam as our only bond
    Its time to take a STAND!
    Follow ONLY Allah’s Commands!
    Put Khilafah back on the MAP
    ITS TIME TO BRING ISLAM BACK

    Bring Islam Back Bring Islam Back
    Bring Islam Back Bring Islam Back
    Bring Islam Back Bring Islam Back
    Bring Islam Back Bring Islam Back

    No KHALIFAH?
    Where are we heading’?
    Without Islam
    We’re stressing
    Implement Allah’s blessing
    That’s what I am addressing
    Apart from this kufur scheme
    Bring Islam back to the scene
    Let’s unite the Ummah!!
    Following only the Quran
    And the Sunnah
    Even if all the kafirs got together...
    They still couldn’t stop this Ummah!We love Islam More thanwe love life
    Got Muslim brothers on my side
    Keeping each other in line
    With One vision.....
    The Deen of Haq
    With One mission.....
    To Bring Islam Back!
    One Ummah!
    One agenda!
    Allahu Akbar
    Insha-Allah I will see you in Jannah
    Takbir!!!!
    Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar

    The Ummah was once
    One body undefeated
    Until colonialism crept in
    And separated us
    According to land
    According to geography
    According to nationality
    Now we suffer tyranny
    Since the Khilafah been destroyed
    We have been more than 50 states
    Put in place puppet rulers
    With stupid grins on their face
    Race or skin
    Your criteria of bond?
    Shallow thinking
    And superficial is how we call it
    This reality states
    that mankind needs revival
    Based on what?
    Definitely not the instinct of survival
    Tribe-lism has infiltrated our mind
    Has divided or lands
    Now tells me where is our IMAMM?

    Bring Islam Back Bring Islam Back
    Bring Islam Back Bring Islam Back
    Bring Islam Back Bring Islam Back
    Bring Islam Back Bring Islam Back

    Muslim Ummah’s Driving
    But there’s no one to steer
    Over a billion & ½ Muslims
    But we got no Amir
    When our enemies
    Use to see the flag
    They use to be in fear
    They couldn’t hurt Muslims
    Because Khalifah was here
    So many years without a State
    Muslims minds in rust
    Now we must reestablish Islam
    Reestablishment is a must
    Fear no one but Allah
    In Allah we trust
    If you are down with Islam
    Then you’re down with us!!!

    Remember these words
    BRING ISLAM BACK!
    Time is slipping
    So get back on the right track
    No more borders between our land
    No more kufur system to be run
    All of these belong to one land
    Part of once mighty Islamic span
    More than 52 nations we fall
    One nation strong we stand tall
    Waiting for the Ummah’s call
    Once again and for all
    Reestablish Islam to rule all

    Muslims are suppose to be
    The example to mankind
    It’s an obligation
    To have implementation
    Of every legislation
    In our daily life
    Without hesitation
    Stick to our only example
    Prophet of ALLAH
    He did not improvised
    Unlike our present leaders
    That’s why there is no surprise
    Our situations today
    Ya Muslimeen
    Ya Mu’meneen
    Open up your eyes
    Aim for the ultimate prize
    Which is paradise
    Allah’s laws
    By definition has no flaw
    So why do we pause?
    Tell me what’s the cause
    Hold your applause
    Takbir!!!!!
    Allahu Akbar
    Allahu Akbar
    Allahu Akbar



    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #54 - November 14, 2010, 04:11 PM


    ^^^ I love these Muslimz Pride innit poems made for facebook and e-mail forwards  Grin

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #55 - November 14, 2010, 04:30 PM


    Oh my, you got to listen to the lyrics on this one Afro

    Millbank Wankers by Dan Bull

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1hI_ncInHg

     Grin

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #56 - November 14, 2010, 04:49 PM

    ROFL Soldiers of Allah I remember listening to these guys way back when.

    SOA are the Justin Timberlakes of the Ummah bringing (sexy) Islam back.

    (dedicated to Allah)

    Dirty babe
    You see these shackles
    Baby I'm your slave
    I'll let you whip me if I misbehave
    It's just that no one makes me feel this way

    Take em' to the chorus

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4kuhjLzfZU

    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #57 - November 14, 2010, 05:02 PM

    Got Muslim brothers on my side
    Keeping each other in line
    With One vision.....
    The Deen of Haq
    With One mission.....
    To Bring Islam Back!
    One Ummah!
    One agenda!
    Allahu Akbar
    Insha-Allah I will see you in Jannah
    Takbir!!!!
    Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar

    When our enemies
    Use to see the flag
    They use to be in fear
    They couldn’t hurt Muslims
    Because Khalifah was here

    Ya Mu’meneen
    Open up your eyes
    Aim for the ultimate prize
    Which is paradise
    Allah’s laws
    By definition has no flaw
    So why do we pause?
    Tell me what’s the cause
    Hold your applause
    Takbir!!!!!
    Allahu Akbar
    Allahu Akbar
    Allahu Akbar

    Oh, how their iman puts me in awe.  Roll Eyes

    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #58 - November 14, 2010, 05:25 PM

    Millbank Wankers by Dan Bull

    Attire potentially manufactured under sweatshop conditions are make ur argument irrelevant.  jester

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUNNuhgyyxU
    Quote from: Propagandhi
    And yes, I recognize the irony that the very system I oppose affords me the luxury of biting the hand that feeds. But that’s exactly why priviledged fucks like me should feel obliged to whine and kick and scream- until everyone has everything they need.


    Each of us a failed state in stark relief against the backdrop of the perfect worlds we seek.
    Propagandhi - Failed States
  • Re: "Benefit Scroungers"
     Reply #59 - November 14, 2010, 05:46 PM

    Oh my, you got to listen to the lyrics on this one Afro

    Millbank Wankers by Dan Bull

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1hI_ncInHg

     Grin


    Grin
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