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  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #30 - October 22, 2010, 01:41 AM

    No, arthur is much more tolerable than DH, and at least he doesn't play coy with his far-right political affiliations.

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #31 - October 22, 2010, 01:42 AM

    Ah good to know 

    Arthur  Kiss  Kiss

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    "What you do not like done to yourself, do not unto others."
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #32 - October 22, 2010, 05:15 AM

    Quote from: Tony
    English hardmen attacking women and children in Big Johns restaurant.


    I saw some mindless vandalism and some thugs charging into the place. Couldn't quite make out the "attacks on women and children though".

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #33 - October 22, 2010, 05:27 AM

    No, arthur is much more tolerable than DH, and at least he doesn't play coy with his far-right political affiliations.


    To repeat, I have NO history of tacit or active involvement with/support for far right organizations. I am not going to "own up" to something I am not guilty of - no matter how "intolerable" you may find that.

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #34 - October 22, 2010, 05:35 AM

    Quote from: arthur1
    the wolf is at the door and it's name is RADICAL ISLAM


    I don't see what you guys have got against arthur1 when he clearly subscribes the "official line" at this site that there is a valid distinction to be made between "radical" Islam and the "mainstream" Islam followed by the (allegedly) "vast majority of moderate Muslims".

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #35 - October 22, 2010, 06:32 AM

    DH, I think you have misunderstood the distinction. It is not between radical and so-called mainstream Islam, but rather between radical and mainstream muslims. The people are divided whether the creed is or is not.

    At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
    Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
    Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #36 - October 22, 2010, 07:39 AM

    No, arthur is much more tolerable than DH, and at least he doesn't play coy with his far-right political affiliations.

    I dont even believe he is as far right as Arthur - Arthur seems to come from a place where he is in search of belonging and the old fashioned way was best, whereas I find DHs views far more unsettling & disturbing, almost supremacist in nature.

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  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #37 - October 22, 2010, 07:43 AM

    To repeat, I have NO history of tacit or active involvement with/support for far right organizations. I am not going to "own up" to something I am not guilty of - no matter how "intolerable" you may find that.

    and this?
    DH - is being a member of the BNP, in your opinion, something to be ashamed about?  (Yes or No please)

    If yes, then please let me know your reasons - thanks

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  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #38 - October 22, 2010, 09:26 AM

    Here I am.

    There is no proof at all that it was EDL, no chants, no EDL clothing. The video it's self is very strange, first we have the very loud sharp sound of cracking glass, just when the camera is turned on. then we have a group of people running into the place, only to disapear a second or so later, then the camera has the sound of crying babies and a police man asking for calm.
    The video is a bit weird.
    I have watched this video many times and other than the breaking glass I don't see anyone actually attacked.
    Then the same camera man is filming the muslims defending their mosque from an imagenary attack from the EDL. Notice that the guy in the black and white jumper appears later on and the camera man is following him.
    Just because the guy with the camera says it is EDL, that does not mean that it is, could have been local youth, could have been people who came to the demo for the wrong reasons, could have been UAF, there is nothing in the video to say who it was.

    The same day there was a report by Sky that EDL had attacked their OB van and it turned out that it was UAF, the police on the same day twittered that the rumour of an attack on a mosque was untrue.
    On the same day police twitted that rumours that a muslim girl had been raped by EDL was untrue.
    My own view is that this is all anti EDL propaganda.
    It worked to didn't it, about 700 turned out for a fight, including the MDL.

    Arthur.



     I should imagine the person who was filming it ran into the back with the others,hence the reason for a break in the footage.As far as I am aware no one was hurt in the incident but that still isn't an excuse for such thuggish behaviour.I suppose we will find out the truth when the matter comes to court.

     
    Quote
    On that same day we held a flash demo in Market Harborough, about 500 hundred EDL.


     Why? Market Harborough is a mainly white market town and hardly any Muslims live there.I should imagine the residents  saw you as a bunch of eccentrics and humoured you.
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #39 - October 22, 2010, 03:00 PM

    I don't see what you guys have got against arthur1 when he clearly subscribes the "official line" at this site that there is a valid distinction to be made between "radical" Islam and the "mainstream" Islam followed by the (allegedly) "vast majority of moderate Muslims".


    Other than his involvement with the EDL, I'm not aware anyone here has anything "against" arthur. The only things he's written I've seen anyone object to are his defenses of the EDL. You, on the other hand...

    To repeat, I have NO history of tacit or active involvement with/support for far right organizations. I am not going to "own up" to something I am not guilty of - no matter how "intolerable" you may find that.


    Liar. You're BNP.

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #40 - October 22, 2010, 11:59 PM

    Speaking about the devil.  whistling2

    Confucius:
    "What you do not like done to yourself, do not unto others."
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #41 - October 23, 2010, 04:37 AM

    Islam and muslims

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wdmzpM8Yx8&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTfNtIPLdHk&NR=1&feature=fvwp
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azWcswYbC9E&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjynqulGWN8&feature=fvw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUnllThLSZI&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av3ZDymX2yg&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHp-yKIjI8U
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW_mPbhhUAg&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb08FWCOXAo&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqDEVe3gJCM&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZw9YEflK_w&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSrWj2Mjee8&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGqzm95z4lM&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rsjSpYzoz4&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM4M-BZ8Qgs&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM4M-BZ8Qgs&feature=related

    Shias in denmark

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z4zsR8n0ck


    Sunni gatherings in india, pakistan, bangladesh and out side


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQDjmOCVg8g&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdPJoPlW05o&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0yPE5ZlabE&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVpa08ZBk_A
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c8sJXn8-eA&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFBmOmPsEgs
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvVuiED3k90&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA1U7sIJRPw&feature=related#
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiHciPdCBA&feature=related


    I am a student of quran and islam and not an exmuslim.
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #42 - October 23, 2010, 05:31 AM

    I have posted these videos to show that islam is not necessarily the problem but its followers are and the main followers are called sunnies.

    Sunnies are the real problem and wahabies are just a branch of sunni islam. Likewise shias are the 2nd largest sect of islam. This version of islam is equally dangerous.

    However islam itself can be shown that it is not necessarily as bad as most of its followers are once we contextualize islam as we find it in the quran and the sunnah.

    It is time to focus more on real islam as a religion than as a politcal ideology as has been pushed by muslim rulers through out time and places to make muslims do what they wanted them to do. The same is true about saudi kings.

    It were muslim rulers who turned against muhammad's own kith and kin as per shia version of islam and as far as commonsense can work it out. It is experience of all religions that they have been used for political ends by some of their followers who gained control over ruling of a people. So islam went through same problems and is still going through them.

    Almost all of muslim religious leaders and politicians are using their followers for their own political ends. Islam has no leader to speak for it but whoever has bigger number of followers can speak for islam.

    The sunnies and shias are such people who want to take us back in time to live like muhammad did in 7th century in makkah and madinah. This belief in itself is very dangerous for humanity because it means humanity will have to regresss rather than progress.

    This is not what the quranic context demends, for quranic context is really progressive eg no prophet has been told to follow any other prophet in matters that are time related. The prophets in the quran did not live like adam who is believed to the father of whole humanity. He covered himself with leaves not clothes. He did not eat what later generations ate, he did not live in house like people lived in arabia in 7th century.

    This goes to show that muslims as a whole have failed to understand the concepts the quran puts forth in its text in the context of its own.
         


    I am a student of quran and islam and not an exmuslim.
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #43 - October 23, 2010, 09:29 AM


    They have shia processions in Britain too ^^^

    To someone who doesn't know what is going on, especially when combined with an atmospherics of dawah, to see that happening in a high street can be perplexing and intimidating.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #44 - October 25, 2010, 05:00 AM

    Quote from: Rev. Winton Dupree
    Liar. You're BNP.


    Do you mean I am:

    a) a BNP member

    b) a BNP voter

    c) a BNP sympathizer

    d) all of the above

    ?

    Are you Q-man by another name BTW rev?

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #45 - October 25, 2010, 05:07 AM

    Quote from: Mughal
    However islam itself can be shown that it is not necessarily as bad as most of its followers are once we contextualize islam as we find it in the quran and the sunnah.


    So "contextualize" surah 024.002:

    The adulterer and the adulteress, flog each one of them a hundred stripes. And let not pity  withhold you from obedience to Allah, IF YOU BELIEVE IN ALLAH AND THE LAST DAY....

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #46 - October 25, 2010, 08:17 AM

    Do you mean I am:

    a) a BNP member

    b) a BNP voter

    c) a BNP sympathizer

    d) all of the above


    Are you a BNP representative, DH? Or just a member / supporter?


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #47 - October 25, 2010, 08:31 AM

    Just because DH is a bigot doesn't make him a BNP supporter, although he probably is.

    "In a child's power to master the multiplication table, there is more sanctity than in all your shouted "amens" and "holy holies" and "hosannas." An idea is a greater monument than a cathedral. And the advance of man's knowledge is a greater miracle than all the sticks" - Henry Drummond
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #48 - October 25, 2010, 01:53 PM

    Are you a BNP representative, DH? Or just a member / supporter?




    Let's wait for "rev Dupree's" response to my question to him.

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #49 - October 25, 2010, 02:26 PM

    why is EDL so fucked? apparently they're teaming up with the american Tea Party people. bloody ironic..

    'I will not serve that in which I no longer believe, whether it call itself my home, my fatherland, or my church: and I will try to express myself in some mode of life or art as freely and as wholly as I can, using for my defence the only arms I allow myself to use: silence, exile and cunning.'
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #50 - October 25, 2010, 02:52 PM

    Quote from: quratulain
    why is EDL so fucked? apparently they're teaming up with the american Tea Party people. bloody ironic..


    The problem is that "progressive" political activists would rather join a horde of fanatical slavering Muslim beardies and hijabis on a million "anti-war"/ anti-Israel demos than campaign against a mega-mosque. That would be "racist". Such adled thinking has left the field clear for the political right to exploit.

    The mosque: the most epic display of collective douchbaggery, arrogance and delusion
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #51 - October 25, 2010, 03:18 PM

    Do you mean I am:

    a) a BNP member

    b) a BNP voter

    c) a BNP sympathizer

    d) all of the above

    ?


    You are a BNP member and activist, perhaps even a councillor.

    Quote
    Are you Q-man by another name BTW rev?


    Wow, you're sharp.

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #52 - October 25, 2010, 03:21 PM

    Could it be that those people simply don't have a problem with a mega-mosque DH rather than because they think it would be racist to do so?

    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #53 - October 25, 2010, 03:22 PM

    Stop with that common sense, Maya.

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #54 - October 25, 2010, 04:16 PM

    this mega stuff can't be good

    'I will not serve that in which I no longer believe, whether it call itself my home, my fatherland, or my church: and I will try to express myself in some mode of life or art as freely and as wholly as I can, using for my defence the only arms I allow myself to use: silence, exile and cunning.'
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #55 - October 25, 2010, 08:41 PM

     The EDL is a direct result of mainstream parties failing to listen to the concerns of the man in the street.Whilst the EDL does send out a confused message it does have the sympathy of a large percentage of the population.
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #56 - October 25, 2010, 10:05 PM

    Whilst the EDL does send out a confused message it does have the sympathy of a large percentage of the population.

    Would you say well above 50%? Why - do you think they are afraid of Shariah Law slowly creeping in?

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  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #57 - October 25, 2010, 10:54 PM

    Had to LMAO at this comment I recently saw on a Pickled Politics blog:  "I hate bloody EDL. I called them up and some bloody Indian on the other end of the line talked shit to me for a whole hour and despite begging him to understand my situation, he flatly refused to reconnect my electricity until I settled my bill. Bloody foreigners."   Cheesy

    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #58 - October 25, 2010, 11:45 PM

     I would say its higher than 50%.

     Its a combination of things that have come together at the same time,recession,banking criisis,spending cuts,mass immigration and political correctness gone mad. The far right always rise when these factors are in place.Mosley did well in the thirties depression and the NF were very prominent during the 74' recession.Once the economy improves and people feel more secure the EDL will gradually decline and become as irrelevant as the BNP.

     
     

     
  • Re: EDL attacks in Leicester
     Reply #59 - October 25, 2010, 11:50 PM

    Actually it is 98% who think that Britain is becoming a "Muslim state".Well at least according to a survey in the Star.

     Quote:"EDL THREATEN TO "CLOSE YOUR TOWNS" OVER XMAS BANS

    A FAR-RIGHT group has vowed to “close down” any town that ditches British traditions and shows favouritism to Muslims.

    The English Defence League said it has written to every council in the country threatening a mass invasion if they ban the word “Christmas”.

    It includes using the term “winter festival” in case Christmas upsets Muslims.

    EDL leader Stephen Lennon said “working class people” in the UK were “at boiling point” over what he says is the “Islamisation of Britain.”

    His declaration comes after yesterday’s Daily Star poll found 98% of readers fear that Britain is becoming a Muslim state."
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