The whole universe is the size of a Sugar Cube!

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Reply #60 - September 14, 2010, 12:05 AM

What you're saying is that if a clone were created of you using your DNA, that person would be genetically identical to you. That's a given. But would that genetically identical person be you?
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Reply #61 - September 14, 2010, 12:06 AM

Nope
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Reply #62 - September 14, 2010, 12:09 AM

So what makes you you, if it's not your genetics?
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Reply #63 - September 14, 2010, 12:11 AM

your experiences making your genetics come into action and change your neural pathways and things. Basically the genetics as a toolkit.
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Reply #64 - September 14, 2010, 12:11 AM

Quote from: Lilyesque on September 13, 2010, 11:53 PM
Whats that picture Ish, i cant see it

It's a kitten looking in a mirror, with an adult lion looking back in the reflection, with the caption "What matters most is how you see yourself."

Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
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Reply #65 - September 14, 2010, 12:11 AM

Quote from: Abood on September 13, 2010, 11:58 PM
I hate that fucking crap.

I think the general problem with that crowd is its mentality of trying to force a conclusion from meagre evidence and this was shown in the video. Yes, it is true that our conception of matter and reality is lacking and yes it is true that measurements of quantum phenomena directly affect the said phenomena, but can we really conclude from this alone that all of reality is conscious?
Of course they then do the same thing with anecdotal evidence and conclude that there is a malicious world order that has enslaved the rest of us (until 2012).

I'm not saying that these conclusions are wrong, it's just that they need to reasoned far better if they are to be taken as the truth.

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Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
Downward to darkness, on extended wings. - Stevens
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Reply #66 - September 14, 2010, 12:12 AM

your genetics belong to you, so your outer appearance is your identifier almost.
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Reply #67 - September 14, 2010, 12:13 AM

Quote from: z10 on September 13, 2010, 11:55 PM
yes and there were some interesting ideas there, but it's just such a shame it was so mingled with the "new world order" and "illuminati" stuff

Well, it only really touched upon it to illustrate a point. Order from chaos, and all that.

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Reply #68 - September 14, 2010, 12:15 AM

im thinking so much its sort of confusing me.
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Reply #69 - September 14, 2010, 12:15 AM

Quote from: Lilyesque on September 14, 2010, 12:11 AM
your experiences making your genetics come into action and change your neural pathways and things. Basically the genetics as a toolkit.

That's actually a pretty good answer. Never thought of that before.
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Reply #70 - September 14, 2010, 12:29 AM

@z10: Couldn't have put it better myself.

Not surprising that it's the same crowd as the 9/11 "truth" movement, which basis its arguments on "lack" of evidence of how WTC 7 collapsed.

Of course, the whole movement has been debunked over and over again.
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Reply #71 - September 14, 2010, 12:40 AM

Quote from: IsLame on September 13, 2010, 09:26 PM
I heard that if we were to remove all the space in the universe, then it could be compressed into the size of a sugar cube.

I know atoms are by & large made of space, but is this a gross exaggeration, or true?

Well science currently tells us, that not all that simply is, is "space", that there are parts of the atom, which compose the atoms as such, even though "space" fill these parts mostly. So spaces are contained within spaces, as such and they are not pure spaces.

There is always something being involved. Whether it actually not being 'out there' but still 'within' us or it being our very essence. And you can't deny this. Because its the very essence of the person denying it. [I'm starting to bring in Hinduism]

Even if the world, as we see it, is taken for granted seemingly, and that our eyes obscure the hidden reality. Still does not negate the experience that I have - in the moment of experience, and my [although imperfect] memory remembering it. Well my recollection of it by attempting to remember is the one that is imperfect not my faculty that stores the memory.

One thing leads to another, having gone there to the current place, it seems what once was before, when it was- though seemingly complete it may have been- was but not complete.

Its interesting because of cognitive dissonance.

But that does not mean the current place, is like previously now complete(-being all that there is to it). Because it is only seemingly.

Remember things always seemingly were compete, because they are convincing.

The boundaries get smashed, and this offers new [possible]insight but the seemingness never loses itself.
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Reply #72 - September 14, 2010, 02:03 AM

Our universe is just an atom that is part of a larger universe, which is in turn, part of another, even larger universe. Ad infinitum. And the reverse is also true.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I remain.
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Reply #73 - September 14, 2010, 02:51 AM

But who created this atom? And a new religion is born. Atomistanity!!!

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
My political philosophy below
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Reply #74 - September 14, 2010, 02:53 AM

Of course atomism will come along later, and the two forces will fight it to the death in the great religious wars known as " the big bang" .

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
My political philosophy below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
Just kidding, here are some true heros
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
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Reply #75 - September 14, 2010, 02:53 AM

It is science

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
My political philosophy below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
Just kidding, here are some true heros
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
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Reply #76 - September 14, 2010, 04:45 AM

bill hicks / tool FTW

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"What you do not like done to yourself, do not unto others."
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