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  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #60 - August 30, 2010, 11:00 PM
    Quote from: Iraqi Atheist on August 30, 2010, 10:32 PM
    The most liberal Arab country is Lebanon followed by Syria

    How come?  With Lebanon is it down to Jewish influence, I would have thought religion would have been strong & highlighted due to the conflict
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  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #61 - August 30, 2010, 11:09 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on August 30, 2010, 11:00 PM
    How come?  With Lebanon is it down to Jewish influence, I would have thought religion would have been strong & highlighted due to the conflict

    What Jewish influence?
    Prostitution is legalized and regulated in Lebanon. It is the ME's center of gay rights activism. Hijab is uncommon among Sunnis. And even their Shias are kinda laid-back religiously albeit ultra right-wing when it comes to politics.
  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #62 - August 30, 2010, 11:11 PM
    So why do you think Syria & Lebanon are different to the other Arab states?
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  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #63 - August 30, 2010, 11:22 PM
    Lebanon has long been a trading hub (since the Phoenician times) as well as multi-faith (40% Christian, which was higher before 1947 and influx of Palestinian refugees, and Shia and Sunni Muslims are about evenly split, 28% each, then the Druze), therefore more cosmopolitan and tolerant.
    fuck you
  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #64 - August 30, 2010, 11:29 PM
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    Christianity: One woman's lie about having an affair that got seriously out of hand.
  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #65 - August 30, 2010, 11:47 PM
    Hi Zodiac.  Smiley

    Quote from: Zodiac on August 30, 2010, 05:46 PM
    Not only is there not a shred of evidence for the existence of any gods, much less any sky critters, but there is actually no reason to believe any exists. The concept of god is inherently inconsistent; this "god" has to account for its own existence. If theists are going to say "he's always existed", then I will say the universe has always existed, in some form or another. You see, what theists do is put this "god" into the formula to neutralize the problem of existence, but they are actually making the problem even more complicated. When they say "goddidit", they're not giving any explanation; they're throwing in a lazy answer that is merely an unsubstantiated claim. Hence, we will eventually end up with two problems instead of one: Our initial problem (existence), and now we also have to account for the existence of this god. According to Occam's razor (and common sense, really), we should always go with the simplest explanation.

    Nice point.

    People try to elbow god into the universe.

    "We don't know. So therefore, it must be god."


    But it can be a different case with Muslims, because they outright say they know.

    They themselves believe in it arbitrarily, and then try to scrap together whatever miracles, signs, numerology, etc.

    They never actually know it's true, but they just want it to be.

    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #66 - August 30, 2010, 11:56 PM
    Quote from: Buttersnips on August 30, 2010, 11:47 PM
    "We don't know. So therefore, it must be god."

    i find at the simplest level the rationale most often tends to boil down to:

    Something must have created everything = God
    This god would have sent us a message=Religion
    Makes logical sense there is one God = Abrahmism
    Islam is the only unchanged no-nonsense final message=Islam
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  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #67 - August 30, 2010, 11:58 PM
    Welcome Zodiac, I'm an arab too(Egyptian).

    Hope you will have some fun on this forum  Afro
    Bazinga!
  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #68 - August 31, 2010, 12:06 AM
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    "We don't know. So therefore, it must be god."


    Exactly. Appeal To Consequences logical fallacy -- just because you cannot "understand" a universe without a god doesn't automatically poof your god into existence.

    Pathetic.
  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #69 - August 31, 2010, 12:08 AM
    Quote from: zizo on August 30, 2010, 11:58 PM
    Welcome Zodiac, I'm an arab too(Egyptian).

    Hope you will have some fun on this forum  Afro


    Join the CEMB Egyptian Mafia
    fuck you
  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #70 - August 31, 2010, 12:09 AM
    @Zizo: Thanks! Egyptians are awesome!  Wink Afro
  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #71 - August 31, 2010, 12:10 AM
    Quote from: Q-Man on August 31, 2010, 12:08 AM
    Join the CEMB Egyptian Mafia

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  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #72 - August 31, 2010, 12:28 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on August 30, 2010, 11:11 PM
    So why do you think Syria & Lebanon are different to the other Arab states?

    Large Christian populations (40%, 10% respectively). Little reception to Wahabism. A legacy of the social/cultural norms overriding the religious ones....etc

    Iraq before 1990 was as liberal as Lebanon and definitely more liberal than all other Arab countries. Drinking was a norm, minijobs, nightclubs, high levels of female employment...etc.
    In the 70s, every Thursday our border crossing with Kuwait would get congested because of the thousands of Kuwaitis who come to drink and listen to music in our clubs and discos. And this is Basra we're talking about. The centre of the Shia south.

    Still till this day, the degree of mixing between genders on our campuses is unrivaled by Egypt or Jordan (speaking from first-hand experience). Of course after 1990 and the sanctions only the middle class maintained its moderation and relative liberalism. Our working class has become more religious. Which is why currently, Syria and Kuwait have become more liberal.

    BTW, Saudis still call us Iraqis "people pf bad manners" "heathens"....etc.  Which is something I take pride in  Afro
      
  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #73 - August 31, 2010, 12:30 AM
    Quote from: Zodiac on August 30, 2010, 09:23 PM
    "Why does a mere accident of birth dictate one's destiny?"


    Very good question!
    Hindu's have a similar thing like this, it's called the Caste system.
    Anyways... signwelcome
    "A good man is so hard to find but a hard man is so good to find"
  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #74 - August 31, 2010, 04:57 AM
    Quote from: Zodiac on August 30, 2010, 10:53 PM
    The Almighty Christopher Hitchens, of course. Smiley


    Oh yes, of course. But the black & white image showed him as an actor. In fact I thought he was one of the officers of the Titanic for some reason. Now that GING have replaced it with a color and a close-up one, it is clear.  Afro
    ...
  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #75 - August 31, 2010, 08:35 AM
    Welcome.
    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #76 - August 31, 2010, 10:02 AM
    hello my friend
    stay a while and listen
  • Re: An atheist from Kuwait
     Reply #77 - January 05, 2011, 09:55 AM
    Halla walla bi ahl al-kuwait   grin12 I'm  Bahraini, sooo we're bros  dance . I hope u enjoy it in here, I cetainly did.
    First of all, here is a  parrot and a  bunny
    Second of all, I hope I see ur signature more around here. I don't think we have regular Arabian/persian/whatever gulf people, so wishing to see more of u
    thirdly, I'm not malee8
    fourth of all, It is going to be a hell of a WANASA in here. Enjoy   cheers
    <AliIsAli>: in ur sharia law, am i to be killed???
    <ghutlu>: Yes sure sure u should 4 firstly Being Ex muslim
     <ghutlu>:  for leaving ISLAM
     <AliIsAli>: would u kill me if u saw me?
     <ghutlu>: yes surely
     <AliIsAli>: :(
     <ghutlu>: by the way gay is just a mental problem
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