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  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #30 - July 30, 2010, 04:13 PM
    Quote from: Tlaloc on July 30, 2010, 02:56 PM
    But you need a passport for that, right? :S

    Yes.
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #31 - July 30, 2010, 04:22 PM
    Quote from: Poopycock on July 30, 2010, 02:54 PM
    Yes! That could be it! OMG do you get the yum stuff you post in UK restaurants?

    There are quite a few decent Iraqi restaurants in the UK specially in London. There are more than 250,000 Iraqis in the UK, about half of them are Kurds.

    http://www.iomlondon.org/doc/mapping/IOM_IRAQ.pdf
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #32 - July 30, 2010, 04:42 PM
    Impressive knowledge Iraqi Atheist! (On the US/UK/Canada immigration policies)

    @Abood: you can perhaps try looking into Australia. They have a point scoring system also.
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  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #33 - July 30, 2010, 04:54 PM
    I have a greater knowledge in university admissions and standardized tests. I left in Iraq in 2006 and spent two years researching this stuff. In total, I applied to medical schools in 11 countries and my family applied for immigration for 3 different countries.
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #34 - July 30, 2010, 05:09 PM
    Blimey. Well, it's great your perseverance paid off. You're an asset to the UK, that's for sure! Afro
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  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #35 - July 30, 2010, 05:24 PM
    Yeah it paid off. We were lucky.
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #36 - July 30, 2010, 06:22 PM
    Thanks, Iraqi Atheist!

    Yeh, I didn't know there was such a thing as a temporary work visa, but that definitely sounds like a better deal. I'm doing a gap year and don't know if I want to spend it all in Kuwait. It would be better financially since I'd be living with my parents and thus not have to pay rent and all, but I'd have to deal with all the religiousness and try to avoid it. I'm weighing my options. I might stay here to save up since I'm pretty broke right now.  wacko And I guess I can work on my immigration documents so that I can start working abroad as soon as I graduate and don't have to come back.
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #37 - July 30, 2010, 07:34 PM
    heh... as much as you diss the USA?  WTH would you want to  come here
    for?  Go ahead.  Make my day  grin12
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #38 - July 30, 2010, 07:37 PM
    I've never heard Abood dis the US.
    fuck you
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #39 - July 30, 2010, 07:43 PM
    Oh, Q... you missed all the fun.  And I ain't going there again because
    of friggin terrorist wannabes and xenophobics.
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #40 - July 30, 2010, 07:57 PM
    Quote from: Q-Man on July 30, 2010, 07:37 PM
    I've never heard Abood dis the US.

    At one point he said "FUCK THE USA".
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #41 - July 30, 2010, 07:59 PM
    Gotta do it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs
    fuck you
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #42 - July 30, 2010, 08:20 PM
    Quote from: Q-Man on July 30, 2010, 07:37 PM
    I've never heard Abood dis the US.

    Lol. J&T equates being a socialist and anti-imperialist with dissing the USA and being anti-American or whatever. I never said "Fuck the USA" or anything of the sort. The only thing I said is this:
    Quote
    Yes, the US is freer and much more progressive domestically, but its conduct in international affairs has shown nothing but a desire to dominate, whatever the consequences. Any progress made during an American occupation is incidental. America doesn't give two craps about anything other than economic benefit in any of its affairs with anyone else. So this whole "at least America practices what it preaches" is bull-fucking-shit. America doesn't care about human rights. America doesn't care about democracy. America doesn't care about freedom. The only freedom America cares about is its freedom to pillage, destroy and benefit. And the US is more democratic than any Arab/Muslim country, so this whole "You can't equate 'we the people' with the government" is quite rubbish as well. Americans hold some responsibility for the governments they elect. Many (if not most) Americans continue to be racist and jingoistic.

    Simply put: AMERICA, FUCK YEH!!!

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=11488.msg317973#msg317973

    I've had a 10-year US visa since I was 10 and just got another one this year. I've been to the US well over a dozen times and have been all around the country. J&T just thinks in black and white and equates the people with the government.

  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #43 - July 30, 2010, 08:28 PM
    you said, to whats her name:   USA  Fuck Yeh.... youre welcome.. now marry me!
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #44 - July 30, 2010, 08:29 PM
    I already said I said that. It's right above you.
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #45 - July 30, 2010, 08:31 PM
    i do believe you are anti american.. AND AGAIN, I take it personally because
    I AM an American!  Everybody just loves to hate us, criticize us at EVERY turn,
    but ohhhh they love the bennies we provide, innit?
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #46 - July 30, 2010, 08:34 PM
    It's not my problem you take political criticisms personally. People criticize American politics, not American people.

    I also happen to hate Kuwaiti nationalism and everything Kuwait stands for politically. Does that mean I hate Kuwait or Kuwaitis? How can I hate my friends and family and the place I grew up in?
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #47 - July 30, 2010, 08:37 PM
    Okay, so let me get this straight once and for all, and correct  me if I'm wrong.

    you HATE american politics but NOT the American people right?
    (which by the way, I hate too, re: politics)

    because  thus far, you haven't clarified that to  me.
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #48 - July 30, 2010, 08:42 PM
    I'm not prejudiced against any ethnicity or nationality.
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #49 - July 30, 2010, 08:43 PM
    Quote from: Abood on July 30, 2010, 08:20 PM
    J&T just thinks in black and white and equates the people with the government.


    Well, look, I agree with most of what you wrote there, but when you say stuff like

    Quote
    "You can't equate 'we the people' with the government" is quite rubbish as well. Americans hold some responsibility for the governments they elect. Many (if not most) Americans continue to be racist and jingoistic.


    It's not a very far leap to say you are anti-American, not just anti-American government. I don't think you are-- I understand where you are coming from and I mostly agree with what you're saying, but look, we Americans are like a lot of other national groups in the sense that we get defensive when its criticism from "outsiders". I'm the same way, really, it's just that I happen to share a similar political outlook to yours, so I know what you're saying and am therefore not defensive about it.

    But look, I coulda said the exact same shit you did, in the same words and everything and although JNT may have argued with me about it, she wouldn't have accused me of being anti-American simply because I'm a fellow American so when I say shit like that it's self-criticism. Now there are a lot of right-wing fellow Americans who would accuse me of being anti-American for saying shit like that, but they're complete douchebags, and I'm certain JNT was not among them. I think her reaction was just a knee-jerk reaction most of us have when we suspect a foreigner is bashing our country.

    So Abood, I'd advise a little more tact and diplomacy when talking to JNT on the topic, and JNT I'd suggest that you calm down and not react so harshly to what Abood is saying. Just debate him on the facts you feel are wrong, don't let it get personal.
    fuck you
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #50 - July 30, 2010, 08:50 PM
    Quote from: Abood on July 30, 2010, 08:42 PM
    I'm not prejudiced against any ethnicity or nationality.


    that still didnt answer my question Abood. LOL
    Quote from: Jinn and Tonic on July 30, 2010, 08:37 PM
    Okay, so let me get this straight once and for all, and correct  me if I'm wrong.

    you HATE american politics but NOT the American people right?
    (which by the way, I hate too, re: politics)

    because  thus far, you haven't clarified that to  me.


    Thank you Q man.  You hit it spot on Smiley
    And yeah,  I am working on my "knee jerk" responses as well, trying to anyway.
    Thanks again,  Q    hugs
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #51 - July 30, 2010, 08:52 PM
    How does it not answer your question?

    The American people are a nationality... and I'm not prejudiced against any nationality.
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #52 - July 30, 2010, 08:54 PM
    Thanks Abood, thats what I wanted to know.  Peace?
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #53 - July 30, 2010, 08:57 PM
     far away hug

     parrot
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #54 - July 30, 2010, 09:02 PM
    ghost   far away hug
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #55 - July 30, 2010, 09:19 PM
    Quote from: Abood on July 30, 2010, 08:20 PM
    I never said "Fuck the USA" or anything of the sort.

    Sorry for misquoting you then.


    Quote from: Abood on July 30, 2010, 08:20 PM
      I've had a 10-year US visa since I was 10 and just got another one this year.

    How the fuck did you get it ?
    A friend of mine deposited 100,000 USD in his bank account when he applied for a 6-month visit visa and got rejected (in 2000).

    You see officially they say they want proof of financial capability and a security clearance. But in reality the US foreign policy and diplomatic relations with a given country play an important role in the processing of visa applications of its citizens. In other words, a wealthy Syrian or Iraqi (pre-2003 Iraqi) has a lesser chance of getting a visa than an equally wealthy Saudi or a Emirati even though Saudis and Emirais are generally more religious and the 9/11 hijakers were Saudis and Emiratis. Similarly, I would guess a wealthy Venezuelan or Cuban has a lesser chance than an equally qealthy Argentine.

    Funny thing is, it's now easier for Iraqis to get US visas even though more Iraqis became radicalized after the war. I personally know at least 6 Iraqis who got US visit/student visas in the last 2 years. 4 of them got the visa on the basis of a one-year English language course that cost them only 1300$ !! Before 2003 this was unheard of.
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #56 - July 30, 2010, 09:25 PM
    That's fucked up. I know a British guy who got into Iran. He just had to go through a lot to get his visa.

    =\
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #57 - July 30, 2010, 09:29 PM
    Im trying to save up enough to go to Iran.  I think it would be cool to go once.
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #58 - July 30, 2010, 10:48 PM
    Homes... I also talked at length with a Saudi *muslim brother* who was telling me
    that many Saudi students were getting their visas revoked, or not renewed and they
    were in uni in the states.
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Working abroad
     Reply #59 - July 30, 2010, 11:29 PM
    Quote from: Jinn and Tonic on July 30, 2010, 10:48 PM
    Homes... I also talked at length with a Saudi *muslim brother* who was telling me
    that many Saudi students were getting their visas revoked, or not renewed and they
    were in uni in the states.

    Jordan did the same thing to Iraqis after the 2005 Amman bombings which were perpetrated by Iraqis.
    Kuwait deported ALL 400,000 Palestinians after Yasser Arafat aligned the PLO with Saddam's invasion of Kuwait.
    And Saddam expelled all Iraqis of Iranian descent during the Iraq-Iran war.
    And most Arab nations expelled their Jewish citizens after the 1948 war.

    So even if your friend is right and the US is not renewing visas for Saudis, America (and the West in general) still trump all Arab countries when it comes to rights, freedoms, and civil liberties. America's lowest point was the Japanese internment but still it's a better record than the Arabs.

    Arabs will always be Arabs.
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