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  • Greetings
     OP - July 13, 2010, 10:16 AM

    Hello everyone!

    im an indian guy in my late 20's. still a muslim and i am looking forward to what you guys have to say about Islam.


    Anyway HI!
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #1 - July 13, 2010, 10:18 AM

    Hi Abbas, welcome to the forum!


    im an indian guy in my late 20's. still a muslim and i am looking forward to what you guys have to say about Islam.



    Other than "It's man made" not really very much Smiley

    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #2 - July 13, 2010, 10:21 AM

    Islam was a way of life for a long time for me too, until I realised it was what The Rationliser just said.

    (Hi btw, and hope you enjoy your time here)

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  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #3 - July 13, 2010, 10:24 AM

    thank you guys for the warm welcome



    which part of the quran do you guys think is man made?
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #4 - July 13, 2010, 10:25 AM

    Why, all of it.

    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #5 - July 13, 2010, 10:26 AM

    which part of the quran do you guys think is man made?


    Everything from "In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful" onwards Smiley

    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #6 - July 13, 2010, 10:27 AM

    Abbas: I have an important question for you

    If you knew that the truth meant you had to reject something you love and embrace the unknown would you want the truth or would you seek to avoid it?

    Or put another way, which pill would you accept from Morpheus, the Blue one (ignorance) or the Red one (Truth)

    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #7 - July 13, 2010, 10:28 AM

    welcome, i am an indian too. cuturally hindu but a libertarian atheist at heart.
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #8 - July 13, 2010, 10:31 AM

    Allah of it, the bit about Prophet Muhammed dictating it is true.  

    Just the bit about some angel called Gibriel reading these versus to him whilst he was feeling suicidal in the cave, and the fact that she got them directly from an invisible Sky God from up above.

    Call me suspicious, but I not quite sure about this bit.  grin12

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  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #9 - July 13, 2010, 10:34 AM

    Hello AbbasAli! And don't expect positive comments about Islam from this forum, although you're welcome to share your views. Smiley
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #10 - July 13, 2010, 10:36 AM

    Abbas: I have an important question for you

    If you knew that the truth meant you had to reject something you love and embrace the unknown would you want the truth or would you seek to avoid it?

    Or put another way, which pill would you accept from Morpheus, the Blue one (ignorance) or the Red one (Truth)

    I have already picked the red one. when i converted to Islam from Hinduism.
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #11 - July 13, 2010, 10:39 AM

     Snap out of it
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #12 - July 13, 2010, 10:41 AM

    I have already picked the red one. when i converted to Islam from Hinduism.


    What kinda Hinduism?

    And welcome  Afro
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #13 - July 13, 2010, 10:42 AM

    I have already picked the red one. when i converted to Islam from Hinduism.


    I offered a choice between truth and delusion, not a giant tube of smarties with more colours than you can imagine Smiley

    Let me rephrase:
    If it could be proven to you that Islam is man made, would you rather not know or is the truth more important?

    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #14 - July 13, 2010, 10:44 AM

    welcome dood
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #15 - July 13, 2010, 10:44 AM

    Welcome AbbasAli Smiley
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #16 - July 13, 2010, 10:47 AM

    Will this thread go in the same direction as MRasheed's?

    Only time will tell.
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #17 - July 13, 2010, 10:51 AM

    That wasn't the question.  Let me rephrase

    If it could be proven to you that Islam is man made, would you rather not know or is the truth more important?


    IF it could be proven, then id choose the truth. but its impossible Smiley
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #18 - July 13, 2010, 10:51 AM

    I have already picked the red one. when i converted to Islam from Hinduism.


    hehehe. actually, you've picked the green one Smiley
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #19 - July 13, 2010, 10:53 AM

    the green one?
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #20 - July 13, 2010, 10:54 AM

    Welcome AbbasAli! Smiley

    Guys, I would suggest that only one or two people engage in a discussion if one has to be had. I think we should let Rationalizer lead the discussion.

    Edit: I don't want this to turn into a meaningless spaghetti debate where everyone feels compelled to say something.

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  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #21 - July 13, 2010, 10:56 AM

    Abbas: I have an important question for you

    If you knew that the truth meant you had to reject something you love and embrace the unknown would you want the truth or would you seek to avoid it?

    Or put another way, which pill would you accept from Morpheus, the Blue one (ignorance) or the Red one (Truth)


    Both the blue pill and the red pill has its advantages and its disadvantages. Clearly you are biased towards the red pill  Smiley

    It would be better if you called the blue pill comfort, or happiness, instead of ignorance. The blue pill is happiness at the possible expense of truth and the red pill is truth at the possible expense of happiness.

    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #22 - July 13, 2010, 10:57 AM

    Welcome to the forum.  hugs


    im an indian guy in my late 20's

    Me too. Smiley


    Quote
    still a muslim and i am looking forward to what you guys have to say about Islam.

    As TheRationalizer said, it is just another man-made religion.  Everywhere on this planet (even remote tribes), humans seem to have a set of weird beliefs and rituals, in an attempt to explain and control various natural phenomena.

    See the links in my signature below to get an idea what my views are.  Basically the 'scientific method' is my way of determining what is true and what is baloney.  I don't follow any sacred text or any other 'authority'.  I follow the 'evidence'.


    which part of the quran do you guys think is man made?

    It's your job to prove that it is divine.  Every religion/cult/tribe claims their beliefs are divine.  Why do you reject (several thousand of) them and settle with Islam?  I'm sure their followers also derive a great deal of comfort and satisfaction from their religion, but that doesn't mean they are true. Smiley

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  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #23 - July 13, 2010, 11:10 AM

    As TheRationalizer said, it is just another man-made religion....

    It's your job to prove that it is divine.


    I agree with ateapotist.  You have obviously rejected other religions as being man made (such as Hinduism) but not Islam.  So how about you present to us the objective evidence you found which proves the Quran was revealed by a supernatural entity?

    Give me the red pill baby, I don't care what the truth is, give it to me! Smiley

    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #24 - July 13, 2010, 11:14 AM

    This guy is either a zakir naik's conquest or a troll! Just a hypothesis BTW,which hopefully shall be tested soon!
     



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  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #25 - July 13, 2010, 11:16 AM

    Hypo - Is that you in your new avatar?

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  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #26 - July 13, 2010, 11:17 AM

    Hypo - Is that you in your new avatar?


    Isn't it that lesbian Muslim woman from the video posted recently?  I can't tell without her Burqa on.

    I don't come here any more due to unfair moderation.
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=30785
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #27 - July 13, 2010, 11:21 AM

    Honestly i think all religions on earth is sent by God but where later corrupted.

    Islam is the only religion that made sense to me
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #28 - July 13, 2010, 11:21 AM

    Welcome AbbasAli! Smiley

    Guys, I would suggest that only one or two people engage in a discussion if one has to be had. I think we should let Rationalizer lead the discussion.

    Edit: I don't want this to turn into a meaningless spaghetti debate where everyone feels compelled to say something.


    something
    obscene and blasphemous I know
    but I MUST say it again
    SOMETHING!!!

    Sex booze and rock&roll
    you know
    the finer things in life
  • Re: Greetings
     Reply #29 - July 13, 2010, 11:23 AM

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    hehehe. actually, you've picked the green one Smiley


    which means arrogantly certain!



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