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OP - July 13, 2010, 10:16 AM

Hello everyone!

im an indian guy in my late 20's. still a muslim and i am looking forward to what you guys have to say about Islam.

Anyway HI!
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Reply #1 - July 13, 2010, 10:18 AM

Hi Abbas, welcome to the forum!

Quote from: AbbasAli on July 13, 2010, 10:16 AM
im an indian guy in my late 20's. still a muslim and i am looking forward to what you guys have to say about Islam.

Other than "It's man made" not really very much

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Reply #2 - July 13, 2010, 10:21 AM

Islam was a way of life for a long time for me too, until I realised it was what The Rationliser just said.

(Hi btw, and hope you enjoy your time here)

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Reply #3 - July 13, 2010, 10:24 AM

thank you guys for the warm welcome

which part of the quran do you guys think is man made?
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Reply #4 - July 13, 2010, 10:25 AM

Why, all of it.

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There's only sorrow for tomorrow
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Reply #5 - July 13, 2010, 10:26 AM

Quote from: AbbasAli on July 13, 2010, 10:24 AM
which part of the quran do you guys think is man made?

Everything from "In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful" onwards

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Reply #6 - July 13, 2010, 10:27 AM

Abbas: I have an important question for you

If you knew that the truth meant you had to reject something you love and embrace the unknown would you want the truth or would you seek to avoid it?

Or put another way, which pill would you accept from Morpheus, the Blue one (ignorance) or the Red one (Truth)

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Reply #7 - July 13, 2010, 10:28 AM

welcome, i am an indian too. cuturally hindu but a libertarian atheist at heart.
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Reply #8 - July 13, 2010, 10:31 AM

Allah of it, the bit about Prophet Muhammed dictating it is true.

Just the bit about some angel called Gibriel reading these versus to him whilst he was feeling suicidal in the cave, and the fact that she got them directly from an invisible Sky God from up above.

Call me suspicious, but I not quite sure about this bit.

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Reply #9 - July 13, 2010, 10:34 AM

Hello AbbasAli! And don't expect positive comments about Islam from this forum, although you're welcome to share your views.
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Reply #10 - July 13, 2010, 10:36 AM

Quote from: TheRationalizer on July 13, 2010, 10:27 AM
Abbas: I have an important question for you

If you knew that the truth meant you had to reject something you love and embrace the unknown would you want the truth or would you seek to avoid it?

Or put another way, which pill would you accept from Morpheus, the Blue one (ignorance) or the Red one (Truth)

I have already picked the red one. when i converted to Islam from Hinduism.
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Reply #12 - July 13, 2010, 10:41 AM

Quote from: AbbasAli on July 13, 2010, 10:36 AM
I have already picked the red one. when i converted to Islam from Hinduism.

What kinda Hinduism?

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Reply #13 - July 13, 2010, 10:42 AM

Quote from: AbbasAli on July 13, 2010, 10:36 AM
I have already picked the red one. when i converted to Islam from Hinduism.

I offered a choice between truth and delusion, not a giant tube of smarties with more colours than you can imagine

Let me rephrase:
If it could be proven to you that Islam is man made, would you rather not know or is the truth more important?

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Reply #14 - July 13, 2010, 10:44 AM

welcome dood
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Reply #15 - July 13, 2010, 10:44 AM

Welcome AbbasAli
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Reply #16 - July 13, 2010, 10:47 AM

Will this thread go in the same direction as MRasheed's?

Only time will tell.
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Reply #17 - July 13, 2010, 10:51 AM

Quote from: TheRationalizer on July 13, 2010, 10:42 AM
That wasn't the question. Let me rephrase

If it could be proven to you that Islam is man made, would you rather not know or is the truth more important?

IF it could be proven, then id choose the truth. but its impossible
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Reply #18 - July 13, 2010, 10:51 AM

Quote from: AbbasAli on July 13, 2010, 10:36 AM
I have already picked the red one. when i converted to Islam from Hinduism.

hehehe. actually, you've picked the green one
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Reply #19 - July 13, 2010, 10:53 AM

the green one?
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Reply #20 - July 13, 2010, 10:54 AM

Welcome AbbasAli!

Guys, I would suggest that only one or two people engage in a discussion if one has to be had. I think we should let Rationalizer lead the discussion.

Edit: I don't want this to turn into a meaningless spaghetti debate where everyone feels compelled to say something.

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Reply #21 - July 13, 2010, 10:56 AM

Quote from: TheRationalizer on July 13, 2010, 10:27 AM
Abbas: I have an important question for you

If you knew that the truth meant you had to reject something you love and embrace the unknown would you want the truth or would you seek to avoid it?

Or put another way, which pill would you accept from Morpheus, the Blue one (ignorance) or the Red one (Truth)

Both the blue pill and the red pill has its advantages and its disadvantages. Clearly you are biased towards the red pill

It would be better if you called the blue pill comfort, or happiness, instead of ignorance. The blue pill is happiness at the possible expense of truth and the red pill is truth at the possible expense of happiness.

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Reply #22 - July 13, 2010, 10:57 AM

Welcome to the forum.

Quote from: AbbasAli on July 13, 2010, 10:16 AM
im an indian guy in my late 20's

Me too.

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still a muslim and i am looking forward to what you guys have to say about Islam.

As TheRationalizer said, it is just another man-made religion. Everywhere on this planet (even remote tribes), humans seem to have a set of weird beliefs and rituals, in an attempt to explain and control various natural phenomena.

See the links in my signature below to get an idea what my views are. Basically the 'scientific method' is my way of determining what is true and what is baloney. I don't follow any sacred text or any other 'authority'. I follow the 'evidence'.

Quote from: AbbasAli on July 13, 2010, 10:24 AM
which part of the quran do you guys think is man made?

It's your job to prove that it is divine. Every religion/cult/tribe claims their beliefs are divine. Why do you reject (several thousand of) them and settle with Islam? I'm sure their followers also derive a great deal of comfort and satisfaction from their religion, but that doesn't mean they are true.

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Reply #23 - July 13, 2010, 11:10 AM

Quote from: ateapotist on July 13, 2010, 10:57 AM
As TheRationalizer said, it is just another man-made religion....

It's your job to prove that it is divine.

I agree with ateapotist. You have obviously rejected other religions as being man made (such as Hinduism) but not Islam. So how about you present to us the objective evidence you found which proves the Quran was revealed by a supernatural entity?

Give me the red pill baby, I don't care what the truth is, give it to me!

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Reply #24 - July 13, 2010, 11:14 AM

This guy is either a zakir naik's conquest or a troll! Just a hypothesis BTW,which hopefully shall be tested soon!

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Reply #25 - July 13, 2010, 11:16 AM

Hypo - Is that you in your new avatar?

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Reply #26 - July 13, 2010, 11:17 AM

Quote from: IsLame on July 13, 2010, 11:16 AM
Hypo - Is that you in your new avatar?

Isn't it that lesbian Muslim woman from the video posted recently? I can't tell without her Burqa on.

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Reply #27 - July 13, 2010, 11:21 AM

Honestly i think all religions on earth is sent by God but where later corrupted.

Islam is the only religion that made sense to me
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Reply #28 - July 13, 2010, 11:21 AM

Quote from: Aziz on July 13, 2010, 10:54 AM
Welcome AbbasAli!

Guys, I would suggest that only one or two people engage in a discussion if one has to be had. I think we should let Rationalizer lead the discussion.

Edit: I don't want this to turn into a meaningless spaghetti debate where everyone feels compelled to say something.

something
obscene and blasphemous I know
but I MUST say it again
SOMETHING!!!

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you know
the finer things in life
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Reply #29 - July 13, 2010, 11:23 AM

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Quote from: s12345 on July 13, 2010, 10:51 AM
hehehe. actually, you've picked the green one

which means arrogantly certain!

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