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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #30 - June 21, 2010, 04:31 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on June 21, 2010, 04:21 PM
    First time I've seen tlaloc;s avatar.   Cheesy  That's awesome.

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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #31 - June 21, 2010, 04:33 PM
    not everything is black and white, i'm not an apostate and i'm not playing a mind trick to keep the 'muslim tag' because of cultural reasons  015
    ''we are morally and philisophically in the best position to win the league'' - Arsene Wenger
  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #32 - June 21, 2010, 04:36 PM
    Abuyunus, you can have Islame for one night, if you leave Islam. The offer stands for today. Do it!
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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #33 - June 21, 2010, 04:37 PM
    astaghfirullah
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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #34 - June 21, 2010, 04:39 PM
    Quote from: Tlaloc on June 21, 2010, 04:23 PM
    I think they are using semantical tricks.
    They are using the term "Muslim" in a way that goes against the consensus.

    For the consensus, they are not "Muslims".
    For their personal definition of "Muslim", they are a Muslim.
    Probably, for their personal definition of "Muslim", I am a Muslim as well *shrugs*.

    But, isn't this a very weird mind trick?
    Why do such thing?
    Are they somehow scared of dropping the "Muslim" label because it's part of their culture, so they have to apply intense semantical gymnastics to keep such a label on themselves? :S

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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #35 - June 21, 2010, 04:41 PM
    Quote from: abuyunus2 on June 21, 2010, 04:37 PM
    astaghfirullah

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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #36 - June 21, 2010, 04:49 PM
    You might say that debunker is an apostate from traditional, orthodox Islam. I think he's a mu'tazilite, or at least closer to it than any other kind of Islam

    Amirite?
  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #37 - June 21, 2010, 04:51 PM
    Quote from: Aziz on June 21, 2010, 04:36 PM
    Abuyunus, you can have Islame for one night, if you leave Islam. The offer stands for today. Do it!


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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #38 - June 21, 2010, 04:54 PM
    He thinks IsLame isn't good enough for him! finmad

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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #39 - June 21, 2010, 04:56 PM
    Quote from: abuyunus2 on June 21, 2010, 04:11 PM

    this manual is in-built into our intelligence and souls - we do not need scripture. scripture was only sent as a mercy to times and places where it was needed and perhaps where the people were grossly deviating from doing good. i think morality has evolved to the stage where we no longer need scripture to guide us.


    I just raped a chicken. Was I thrown of the assembly line when we were given our built-in morality?

    *baaaawk*

    YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH OR I'll MAKE CHICKEN NUGGETS OUT OF YOU GOT THAT!!!

    Sorry, what was I saying. Yeah what about me as a chicken-fucker?
  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #40 - June 21, 2010, 04:56 PM
    Quote from: Aziz on June 21, 2010, 04:54 PM
    He thinks IsLame isn't good enough for him! finmad

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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #41 - June 21, 2010, 04:57 PM
    Quote from: abuyunus2 on June 21, 2010, 04:33 PM
    not everything is black and white, i'm not an apostate and i'm not playing a mind trick to keep the 'muslim tag' because of cultural reasons  015

    "Muslim" is a symbol/label.
    It has a meaning.
    What is this meaning, according to you?

    How do we tell Muslims from non-Muslims?
    Or, if you want to apply fuzzy not-black-and-white logic to it...
    How do we determine if somebody is "more Muslim" than somebody else?
    Do not look directly at the operational end of the device.
  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #42 - June 21, 2010, 04:58 PM
    Tlaloc please don't ever, ever, ever change that avatar. I have even begun reading your posts as a result of it.
  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #43 - June 21, 2010, 04:59 PM
    Quote from: Aziz on June 21, 2010, 04:54 PM
    He thinks IsLame isn't good enough for him! finmad

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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #44 - June 21, 2010, 04:59 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on June 21, 2010, 04:58 PM
    I have even begun reading your posts as a result of it.


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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #45 - June 21, 2010, 04:59 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on June 21, 2010, 04:58 PM
    Tlaloc please don't ever, ever, ever change that avatar. I have even begun reading your posts as a result of it.

    Lmao ;P
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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #46 - June 21, 2010, 05:00 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on June 21, 2010, 04:56 PM
    I just raped a chicken. Was I thrown of the assembly line when we were given our built-in morality?

    *baaaawk*

    YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH OR I'll MAKE CHICKEN NUGGETS OUT OF YOU GOT THAT!!!

    Sorry, what was I saying. Yeah what about me as a chicken-fucker?


    no you're just a sick fuck
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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #47 - June 21, 2010, 05:09 PM
    Quote from: abuyunus2 on June 21, 2010, 05:00 PM
    no you're just a sick fuck


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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #48 - June 21, 2010, 05:11 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on June 21, 2010, 04:59 PM
    What are you, our pimp?

    Donate your own bumhole to this very worthy cause.


    +O ?
  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #49 - June 21, 2010, 05:16 PM
    It really is the one & only Ahmed Bahgat - and he's moved on from doing basic gifs of Os & Berbs, he now does vids!

    http://www.youtube.com/user/AhmedBahgat#p/a/u/1/ao-HfMbuJdo

    he's 44, and lives in Australia and FFI

    http://www.youtube.com/user/AhmedBahgat#p/a/u/2/yrfAEs5kUsM

    If you want to speak to him, call this number

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    SundriedAtheist (1 year ago)
    Hello AB, that's pretty cool videos. You need to practise more and get them looking more realistic. Hey, didnt know you were in Sydney. I would love to meet you man, if you promise to not kill me.

    No, I'm serious.  

    AhmedBahgat (1 year ago)
    No worries man despite I am the one who should be worried to meet an extremist atheist like you, I am very peaceful by nature and Islam made me more peaceful, in fact I do not even have the heart to kill an insect, anyway, if you would like to meet, I live in north shore and my mobile is 0410327273, salam

      

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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #50 - June 21, 2010, 05:22 PM
    I would rather nail my nuts to a moving vehicle.
  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #51 - June 21, 2010, 05:26 PM

    Do you have his permission to post his phone number? I don't think you should, even if he has posted it himself in the past, he might have changed his mind since then.
  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #52 - June 21, 2010, 05:29 PM
    He's posted it publically on a site much larger than this one, and chose not to delete it.  So my conscience is clear.
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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #53 - June 21, 2010, 05:30 PM
    I'm not saying you have done something wrong per se, just a tad inethical, it would be best not to repost personal information regardless of whether that person made it publically available as there is no need, the risk outdoes the reward.

    Anyway, it was a suggestion more than anything.
  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #54 - June 21, 2010, 06:04 PM
    Keep your ethical suggestions to yourself.  But thanks anyway  Afro
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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #55 - June 21, 2010, 06:11 PM
    It's odd how humanists like yourself get pissy if someone reminds them of the golden rule. Seems like the golden rule (for faux humanists) only exists to shut religious people up, otherwise it can go to hell.

  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #56 - June 21, 2010, 06:51 PM
    Quote from: BlackDog on June 21, 2010, 04:58 PM
    Tlaloc please don't ever, ever, ever change that avatar. I have even begun reading your posts as a result of it.


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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #57 - June 21, 2010, 06:59 PM
    Quote from: Justlookin on June 21, 2010, 05:26 PM
    Do you have his permission to post his phone number? I don't think you should, even if he has posted it himself in the past, he might have changed his mind since then.


    Ex-Muslims or non-Muslims, if they do or say something that is perceived as an insult to Islam, are in danger of being threatened, harassed or even killed by some Muslims, not the other way round.

    Ahmed Baghat is a Muslim.
    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

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  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #58 - June 21, 2010, 07:00 PM
    Quote from: Paloma on June 21, 2010, 06:51 PM
    I wish I could see it  Cry


    Why can't you? Have you disabled avatars?
  • Re: Debunker are you an apostate?
     Reply #59 - June 21, 2010, 07:02 PM
    It doesn't matter who is on the recieving end, it's still wrong. How would someone else like it if they hypothetically posted some personal information meant for one person, absent mindedly forgot that they put it there and didn't delete it, in that situation, wouldn't you want people to be decent enough not to repost it (when you found out)?

    I mean, I would understand if there was a purpose or reason for it, but there isn't.

    I'm not saying this Islame character acted in a way defect of reason, but I am trying to make him empathise with AB in the situation, and I know that AB has acted in an unsavoury way, and may have nothing to fear, that doesn't change how the "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" rule works.
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