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  • Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     OP - June 12, 2010, 04:31 PM

    Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia_pacific/10300348.stm

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    Kyrgyzstan's interim government has asked Russia to help end ethnic clashes in the southern city of Osh, in which more than 60 people have been killed.

    "We need the entry of outside armed forces to calm the situation down," interim leader Roza Otunbayeva said.

    But Russia said for the time being it would not send troops to Kyrgyzstan.

    Thousands of ethnic Uzbeks have massed at the Kyrgyz-Uzbek border as they try to escape fighting between Kyrgyz and Uzbeks that has raged for two days. n a televised address, Ms Otunbayeva said she had sent a letter to Russian President Dmitry Medvedev asking him to send military reinforcements.

    She described the situation in Osh as "out of control". .....


    Kyrgyzstan and Muhammad's Islam - 25 Mar 09


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjY0o-5XsmY

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #1 - June 12, 2010, 04:34 PM

    KIRGIZ KYRGYZ BISHKEK Islam

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAInQTkzSzs


    Islam and Hizb ut Tahrir's explosive growth in Central Asia

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3iUw2TSISE

    Islam kyrgyzstan madina

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jruaj5135H4

    FUCKERS SING SILLY SONGS and they come from Pakistan..

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #2 - June 12, 2010, 04:42 PM

    Asshole Uzbeks. They are nosy people with a bone in the middle of their brains.

    fuck you
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #3 - June 12, 2010, 05:01 PM

    lol is that from Borat ?

    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #4 - June 12, 2010, 05:02 PM

    Yeah

    fuck you
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #5 - June 12, 2010, 05:06 PM

    Most central asians (i.e the 5 ex-USSR republic ending in -stan) don't give a damn about religion.

    The exeptions are Fergana valley (which straddles 3 countries) and southern half of Tajikistan, which were historically puritanical, and have little to do with modern Islamist activity.

    Things may change in the future though.
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #6 - June 12, 2010, 08:03 PM

    ...........................

    Things may change in the future though.

    It takes only 10 years to go down the tube in to a black hole of Islam if Islamic nations are NOT ruled by some kings or some Generals or some dictators. It is because centralized rule is the name of game in Islam.  Today's news at

    http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=106538  says
    Quote
    At least 75 dead in Kyrgyzstan ethnic clashes



        BISHKEK: At least 75 people have been killed and almost 1,000 wounded during ethnic violence in southern Kyrgyzstan, the health ministry said on Saturday.

    "In the Jalalabad and Osh regions on June 12 as a result of the clashes, 977 people have been wounded and 75 people killed," it said in a statement.

    Kyrgyzstan's provisional government led by Roza Otunbayeva has struggled to impose order in the Central Asian state since seizing control during riots that ousted President Kurmanbek Bakiyev earlier this year.

    Witnesses said brawls had broken out between ethnic Kyrgyz and ethnic Uzbek groups in Osh, once the stronghold of Bakiyev.

    Quote
    Clashes between ethnic Kyrgyz, on the one hand, and minority groups, on the other, if they come to involve ethnic Uzbeks, a Moscow analyst says, would put Kyrgyzstan on the road to a “full-scale” civil war, likely lead to intervention by Tashkent, and threaten that already troubled Central Asian country’s survival.  The “largest disorders” since the revolution in Bishkek, Shustov says, involved “pogroms of Meskhetian Turks and ethnic Russians living in Mayevka, a suburb of the [Kyrgyz] capital.” According to witnesses, these disorders were sparked by the actions of “crowds of young Kyrgyz” who apparently saw a chance to get housing and land by driving out the others.



    That Jalalabad or  Dzhalal-Abad, Djalal-Abad /Jalal-Abad in Kyrgyz is close to the borders of Afghanistan   Don't get confused with Jalalabad of Eastern Afghanistan next to Land of Pure .  Add Islam and  a male singing silly song in to that Ethnic clash you will have dead bodies floating on the roads of this so-called Islamic country..

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #7 - June 13, 2010, 11:48 AM

    This has nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with ethnic tensions between Kyrgyz and Uzbeks. Just because something bad happens in a Muslim country does not mean your boogeyman is at work.

    Educate yourself just once with a book or go back FFI/Jwatch.

    "By the One in Whose Hand my soul is, were you not to commit sins, Allah would replace you with a people who would commit sins and then seek forgiveness from Allah; and Allah would forgive them." [Saheeh Muslim]

    "Wherever you are, death will find you, Even in the looming tower."
    - Quran 4:78
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #8 - June 13, 2010, 11:50 AM


    That Jalalabad or  Dzhalal-Abad, Djalal-Abad /Jalal-Abad in Kyrgyz is close to the borders of Afghanistan   


    Sure, execpt for one country standing in between. Have you even looked at a map?

    "By the One in Whose Hand my soul is, were you not to commit sins, Allah would replace you with a people who would commit sins and then seek forgiveness from Allah; and Allah would forgive them." [Saheeh Muslim]

    "Wherever you are, death will find you, Even in the looming tower."
    - Quran 4:78
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #9 - June 13, 2010, 11:55 AM

    Sure, execpt for one country standing in between. Have you even looked at a map?


    I looked at all the maps mr. Arab-Wannabe., and I look at them all the time.
    This has nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with ethnic tensions between Kyrgyz and Uzbeks. Just because something bad happens in a Muslim country does not mean your boogeyman is at work.

    You know why this BAD happens always in Muslim countries?  It is Islamic Politics and they come from Mosques, Mullahs  and Imams  which come from Quran/Hadith and Sunnah.  The boogeyman is indeed at work.

    Quote
    Educate yourself just once with a book or go back FFI/Jwatch.

    CEMB is worse than FFI/Jwatch for intellectual Muslims., So Don't worry about me and my education. I went all the way to end in education..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #10 - June 13, 2010, 12:02 PM

    News says "Mobs burn villages, slaughter Uzbeks in Kyrgyzstan"

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gS-xs7sBguewttUyAhxKUWRgnRzAD9GAC6800




    Ethnic Uzbeks gather near the Kyrgyz-Uzbek border in southern Kyrgyzstan, on Saturday, June 12, 2010, to seek refuge in Uzbekistan from mobs of Kyrgyz men attacking the minority Uzbek community. The country's second-largest city, Osh, slid into chaos Friday when gangs of young Kyrgyz men armed with firearms and metal rods marched on Uzbek neighborhoods and set their homes on fire. Thousands of terrified ethnic Uzbeks were fleeing toward the nearby border with Uzbekistan

    Quote
    OSH, Kyrgyzstan — Kyrgyz mobs burned Uzbek villages and slaughtered their residents Sunday as ethnic rioting engulfed new areas in southern Kyrgyzstan. The government ordered troops to shoot rioters dead but even that failed to stop the spiraling violence.

    More than 100 people have been killed and over 1,000 wounded in the impoverished Central Asian nation since the violence began Thursday night. Doctors and rights activists say that toll is far too low because wounded Uzbeks are too afraid of being attacked again to go to hospitals.

    Thousands of Uzbeks have fled in panic to the border with Uzbekistan after their homes were torched by roving mobs of Kyrgyz men. Some Uzbek women and children were gunned down as they tried to escape, witnesses said.

    Fires set by rioters have destroyed most of Osh, the country's second-largest city, and looters have stolen most of its food. Triumphant crowds of Kyrgyz men took control of most of Osh on Sunday while the few Uzbeks still in the city of 250,000 barricaded themselves in their neighborhoods.

    The rampages spread quickly Sunday to Jalal-Abad, another major southern city, and neighboring villages, as mobs methodically set Uzbek houses, stores and cafes on fire. The rioters seized an armored vehicle and automatic weapons at a local military unit and attacked police stations around the region trying to get more firearms.


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #11 - June 13, 2010, 12:14 PM

    News says "One Pakistani killed in Kyrgyzstan violence "



    Quote
    ISLAMABAD: One Pakistani student has been killed and around 15 reportedly taken hostage in Kyrgyzstan's riot-stricken city of Osh, Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi said on Sunday.

    “One student has been killed and there are reports that 15 have been taken hostage for ransom. We are trying to confirm these reports,” Qureshi told Reuters. “Our first priority is to ensure the safety of our brethren stranded there. We are trying to establish contact with Kyrgyz authorities,” he said.
    Quote
    Around 1,200 Pakistanis, mostly students, live in Kyrgyzstan, although many of them have returned to Pakistan for summer vacations, Qureshi said. Universities in the former Soviet states are attractive to many Pakistanis for their cheaper training in medical and engineering fields.

    Obaid Ansari, who studies medicine in Osh, said he fled the city and returned to Pakistan shortly after riots broke out.

    read it all at http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/03-kyrgyz-govt-to-reinforce-south-ethnic-riots-kill-80-ss-05

    What is this?  why go to Kyrgyzstan for College?? We have plenty of good colleges in Pakistan..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #12 - June 13, 2010, 12:32 PM


    Jesus, I haven't been following the news. This is terrible.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #13 - June 13, 2010, 12:45 PM

    What is this?  why go to Kyrgyzstan for College?? We have plenty of good colleges in Pakistan..

    The tuition fees are relatively cheaper and dont require to pass hard and saturated entrance exams like most medical colleges in Pakistan. Although the Pakistan Medical & Dental Council is considering to stop recognising the degrees from such colleges which seem bogus and not up to standard.

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #14 - June 13, 2010, 12:53 PM

    The tuition fees are relatively cheaper and dont require to pass hard and saturated entrance exams like most medical colleges in Pakistan. Although the Pakistan Medical & Dental Council is considering to stop recognising the degrees from such colleges which seem bogus and not up to standard.

    ah Ha!., Now understand., they are all sons of elites of land of pure. They can not compete with in the country. They go out to get degrees either to contest elections or to move west with those degrees, It becomes easier to get visa if you have degree ..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #15 - June 13, 2010, 12:59 PM

    ah Ha!., Now understand., they are all sons of elites of land of pure. They can not compete with in the country. They go out to get degrees either to contest elections or to move west with those degrees, It becomes easier to get visa if you have degree ..

    Lol...actually the elites send their kids to places like USA, UK, Canada, Australia etc rather than Central Asia (lets face it their education standard is pretty shit but its cheaper) lol.

    These are usually middle class and lower middle class kids who could not get enough marks in entrance exams so they apply for colleges in places like Azerbaijan (which apparently has a rather good medical college system), China, Central Asian republics and other unfancied countries. All they have to do is prove they got good marks in their Matriculation and FSc exams, apply for college in such countries, get confirmation letter and apply for visa.

    Does not require that much money so it appeals to these families who can send off their kids to study in such countries by spending just a little extra.

    Imagine a Chaudhry sahib from Mandi Bahauddin sending off his eldest son to a college in Kyrgyzstan...he'll do it just to get famous in his muhalla or village.  Cheesy

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #16 - June 13, 2010, 01:11 PM

    You know why this BAD happens always in Muslim countries?  It is Islamic Politics and they come from Mosques, Mullahs  and Imams  which come from Quran/Hadith and Sunnah. 


    Islam has next to nothing to do with the current instability in Kyrgystan.
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #17 - June 13, 2010, 01:13 PM

    Lol...actually the elites send their kids to places like USA, UK, Canada, Australia etc rather than Central Asia (lets face it their education standard is pretty shit but its cheaper) lol.


    The standard of higher education in Central Asia isn't actually bad
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #18 - June 13, 2010, 01:15 PM

    I have to agree with MrSilly. I get the feeling that tensions between Kyrgyz and Uzbeks had been simmering for many years but because of the authoritarian rule by the government such conflict was stopped. When the government collapsed, so did the peace. Kyrgyz nationalists decided to attack the Uzbeks.

    Bear in mind, both sides are Muslim and follow the same schools of thoughts. To say Islam is responsible, rather than ethno-nationalistic rage, is a bit far fetched yeezevee sahib.

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #19 - June 13, 2010, 01:18 PM

    The standard of higher education in Central Asia isn't actually bad


    "Thanks to Soviet rule, Central Asia boasts one of the most literate and numerate Muslim populations anywhere, and is ruled by secular governments" - Frederick Starr

    The language of the mob was only the language of public opinion cleansed of hypocrisy and restraint - Hannah Arendt.
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #20 - June 13, 2010, 01:24 PM

    I have to agree with MrSilly. I get the feeling that tensions between Kyrgyz and Uzbeks had been simmering for many years but because of the authoritarian rule by the government such conflict was stopped. When the government collapsed, so did the peace. Kyrgyz nationalists decided to attack the Uzbeks.

    Bear in mind, both sides are Muslim and follow the same schools of thoughts. To say Islam is responsible, rather than ethno-nationalistic rage, is a bit far fetched yeezevee sahib.

    I know that BOTH SIDES ARE MUSLIM, that too Sunni Muslims.

    But you guys seem not to realize   Muslims killing Muslims in Islam is not new. If there is no non-Muslim in the Islamic lands.  We  start fighting on ethnicity, we start killing for political power,  My Islam is better than your Islam.   Islam and that stupid patriotism/nationalism gets worst from a man..

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #21 - June 13, 2010, 01:28 PM

    But this violence is not about "my Islam vs your Islam"

    yaqeen kijiye  Tongue

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #22 - June 13, 2010, 01:32 PM

    "Thanks to Soviet rule, Central Asia boasts one of the most literate and numerate Muslim populations anywhere, and is ruled by secular governments" - Frederick Starr

    Perhaps. But the standard of education in such countries is highly questionable. It has become a scandal here about the legibility of such colleges.

    http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=29264

    Quote
    PMDC registers bogus doctors




    Friday, June 04, 2010

    By Rauf Klasra

    ISLAMABAD: A huge scandal of fake registration of dozens of Pakistani students who obtained medical degrees from Afghanistan, as well as Kyrgyzstan and some other former Soviet republics, in recent years has hit the Pakistan Medial & Dental Council (PMDC) headed by Dr Asim Hussain.

    The scam surfaced after these students were secretly issued bogus registration certificates by its top guns with the permission to serve in any government hospital and private clinics or get jobs abroad, after all of them failed to pass the compulsory test of National Examination Board (NEB) on their return to Pakistan.

    The sources said that as the FIA launched investigations into this scam it was revealed that official files containing record of these fake doctors who were given registration diplomas were now missing from the official record of PMDC. Meanwhile, the bogus registration scam took an ugly turn when surprisingly FIA inquiry officer Assistant Director Crime Circle Zafar Mahmood Sheikh, was punished and immediately removed from investigation after he found huge documentary evidences to prove as how bogus doctors were legalized by top guns of PMDC by minting money. Zafar Sheikh was removed after some top guns of PMDC used their clout to get him transferred to stop further proceedings against the accused sitting at helm of affairs.

    Sources said FIA Zafar Sheikh was said to have also met Dr Asim Hussain in his office to inquire about the scam and had brought into his notice that how PMDC Registrar Major Dr Ahmed Naeedm Akbar was not cooperating with him FIA inquiry officer was said to have now recommended in his report to the DG FIA to put name of Dr Nadeem on ECL and recommend government send him on forced leave before launching a full-fledged inquiry into the racket active in the PMDC. Zafar Sheikh was punished after he gave these recommendations to his authorities.

    When this correspondent contacted the recently punished FIA Inquiry officer Zafar Sheikh, he confirmed that he was assigned to probe this scam. But, Zafar Sheikh refused to give details of his explosive findings on the grounds that he was not authorised to make any comment on this case.

    Talking to The News President PMDC Dr Asim Hussain, who himself runs a private medical college in Karachi where once president Asif Zardari remained under treatment during his captivity, confirmed that FIA inquiry officer Zafar Sheikh had met him to discuss scam of issuance of bogus certificates to students who did not pass NEB tests. He said he had forgotten afterwards about these investigations.

    He confirmed that a racket was active in the PMDC and he had also ordered an internal inquiry. Dr Asim said he didnít knew the latest position of the case or whether FIA had completed its findings and had recommended action against Registrar PMDC

    When he was told that how could he ignore such a scam in the PMDC which he himself was running as its president, Dr Asim said he would discuss the whole issue after reading the contents of FIA inquiry report. Dr Asim confirmed that he knew that at least 30 such students were given fake registration certificates by PMDC.

    Meanwhile, investigations conducted by The News revealed that shocking aspect of this new scam of registering those Pakistani students, who could not pass the test required for this registration, is that the vouchers and official record of those Pakistani female and male students who passed the NEB test after graduating from the Pakistani medical colleges and were already registered with PMDD have quietly been used by the PMDC to give the whole process a legal cover.

    After getting the bogus registration certificates, now these half-baked doctors are doing government service and running their own clinics. Some of them are said to have left Pakistan to get jobs abroad in the light of these bogus registration certificates issued to them with the help of PMDC

    These candidates after failing to pass the PMDC test are said to have paid millions of rupees to the top guns of PMDC which is now being run by the former adviser of the Prime Minister, Dr Asim Hussain as its president. Initially, FIA had taken action on the scam but its investigators have been silenced after top guns of PMDC used their own links to stop them from further probe.

    Official documents available with The News that even Pakistan ambassador to Biskhek Tanveer A Khaskheli had written to the then president PMDC Prof Dr Hasnain that Kyrgz State Medical college Academy and Osh university had informed him that documents submitted by the Pakistanis students to get PMDC registration were bogus and fake.

    According to one official letter of FIA written by Hazrat Ali, Deputy Director Crime FIA in the name of Registrar PMDC, the agency was conducing an inquiry No 127/09 of FIA crime circle Rawalpindi illegal registration of doctors on fake/forged/degrees/diploma/certificates etc.

    The FIA letter said this agency had initiated an inquiry into the alleged registration of doctors on fake/forged/degree/diploma. It said that to proceed further and to reach to logical conclusion PMDC was requested to provide complete record/file of following doctors.

    Initially the names of following doctors who returned from Afghanistan and Central Asian States were mentioned in FIA letter and their files were sought but PMDC refused to give files on the grounds that these were missing from the official record, but in FIA inquiry the numbers of such fake doctors raised to 30.

    Dr Shafif Ahmed son of Abdul Haleem Eligibiilty certificate no 3448 dated April 4, 2009; Dr Jehangir Khan son of Adam Khan, EC No 3449 on April 4, 2009; Dr Said Wali son of Abdul Hakim, NEB exam roll no 091720 May 2009; Dr Syed Salauddin son of Syed Fazal Wahid EC no 3451 dated April 22, 2009; Dr Syed Naseemudin SON OF Syed Fazal Wahid EC No 3452 on April 22, 2009. dR Ikram ullah son of Faiz Talib Khan NEB examination roll no 091110 held in May 2009; Dr Sakhi Jan son of Ahmed Zia Khan, Dr Rehmanullah son of Anaullah; Dr Abrar ullah son of Mohammad Taj, Dr Malik Asad son of Tahir Husain.

    FIA also sought attested photo copy of eligibility certificates no 3409 dated Feb 23, 2009. Attested copy of letter no 7587/RMC/RWP dated November 13, 2008.


    or maybe that's just Pakistanis being Pakistanis...  Tongue taking shortcuts

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #23 - June 13, 2010, 01:35 PM

    But this violence is not about "my Islam vs your Islam"

    yaqeen kijiye  Tongue

    haji ..maythou samaj gaya apka bath ., magar

    "fighting for political domination"   either using ethnic differences or differences in leaderships with in Islamic groups in Islam is not negligible violence throughout history of Islam.

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
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  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #24 - June 13, 2010, 01:41 PM

    I am not a Hajji....I am a Shia Syed.  Angry   Cheesy

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #25 - June 13, 2010, 01:53 PM

    Perhaps. But the standard of education in such countries is highly questionable. It has become a scandal here about the legibility of such colleges.

    http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=29264

    or maybe that's just Pakistanis being Pakistanis...  Tongue taking shortcuts


    I think the quality of the education and instruction that provided is actually good. If a student is intelligent, motivated and aspirational, then the ex-USSR universities do provide the environment for individuals to flourish.

    What you refer to regarding the "bogus degrees" however is very true. There is corruption element that is now endemic in the Ex-USSR, and people that want to cheat and take short cuts can do it easily. But I imagine the same is true within universities in the Indian subcontinent too.
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #26 - June 13, 2010, 01:56 PM

    I know that BOTH SIDES ARE MUSLIM, that too Sunni Muslims.

    But you guys seem not to realize   Muslims killing Muslims in Islam is not new. If there is no non-Muslim in the Islamic lands.  We  start fighting on ethnicity, we start killing for political power,  My Islam is better than your Islam.   Islam and that stupid patriotism/nationalism gets worst from a man..


    No offence, but you are talking out of your bottom. Central Asians are predominatly nominal Muslims, if even that. There is more faith within UK than there is there.
  • Re: Kyrgyzstan Back in trouble..
     Reply #27 - June 13, 2010, 01:58 PM

    I think the quality of the education and instruction that provided is actually good. If a student is intelligent, motivated and aspirational, then the ex-USSR universities do provide the environment for individuals to flourish.

    What you refer to regarding the "bogus degrees" however is very true. There is corruption element that is now endemic in the Ex-USSR, and people that want to cheat and take short cuts can do it easily. But I imagine the same is true within universities in the Indian subcontinent too.

    Pretty much yes, especially in public universities. Hell, ever since Pakistan ordered that anyone standing in elections must possess a valid Bachelors degree, many politicians from feudal backgrounds have bribed their way into getting fake degrees. Many of them have been found and disqualified as a result and it has become major embarrassment for the government.

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
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