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« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2009, 02:57 AM »

the petit-bourgeois beat their pots and pans

Calvin Klein... revolution...

Yeah, we know. Ahmedejihad is your hero because he opposes the nasty, nasty imperialists. The oppressed Iranian people are just collateral damage.


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« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2009, 03:40 AM »

I'd love to go down there and protest! Is there any footage or pictures of outside the Iranian embassy recently?

Woops! That was meant to read 'anyone in the UK'. There are protests being held all over the world though (you can get information from the Anonymous Iran forum posted earlier about them). I haven't seen any pictures of these protests though, they're probably not very big. I personally don't see much of a point, this is something the Iranians have to sort out themselves, I cant see why protests from other countries would influence Iran's decision. I guess the fact that they have our support is a good thing but perhaps not such a good thing for those who hate the West...

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« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2009, 04:34 AM »

Woops! That was meant to read 'anyone in the UK'. There are protests being held all over the world though (you can get information from the Anonymous Iran forum posted earlier about them). I haven't seen any pictures of these protests though, they're probably not very big. I personally don't see much of a point, this is something the Iranians have to sort out themselves, I cant see why protests from other countries would influence Iran's decision. I guess the fact that they have our support is a good thing but perhaps not such a good thing for those who hate the West...


Are you for real?! We have to get behind our fellow democrats in Iran! We have to show them that they have supporters all around the globe! Put yourself in their shoes. They are brave but I bet they're scared. The last thing we want Ahmadinejad to think is that nobody else in the world seems to give a damn what happens in Iran anymore so we'll just continue ruling as if we had won.

Do you not remember what Hizb-ut-Tahrir go on and on and on about? Every single time they are confronted they use the "democratic dilemma" on us. That is, we in the West believe in democracy, and since the majority of people in Middle Eastern countries want an Islamic theocracy, then if we stay true to our democratic principles, we should allow them to have an Islamic theocracy, if not fund an Islamic theocracy! Now this is BIG. Perhaps this is not the first time, but this definitely is the biggest time, that the once silent democratic majority are making their voices heard in Iran! If the Iranian people succeed, then maybe the silent majority in the rest of Middle East will feel encouraged too. We should amplify their voices, not let them get on with it!


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« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2009, 05:39 AM »

Are you for real?! We have to get behind our fellow democrats in Iran! We have to show them that they have supporters all around the globe! Put yourself in their shoes. They are brave but I bet they're scared. The last thing we want Ahmadinejad to think is that nobody else in the world seems to give a damn what happens in Iran anymore so we'll just continue ruling as if we had won.

Do you not remember what Hizb-ut-Tahrir go on and on and on about? Every single time they are confronted they use the "democratic dilemma" on us. That is, we in the West believe in democracy, and since the majority of people in Middle Eastern countries want an Islamic theocracy, then if we stay true to our democratic principles, we should allow them to have an Islamic theocracy, if not fund an Islamic theocracy! Now this is BIG. Perhaps this is not the first time, but this definitely is the biggest time, that the once silent democratic majority are making their voices heard in Iran! If the Iranian people succeed, then maybe the silent majority in the rest of Middle East will feel encouraged too. We should amplify their voices, not let them get on with it!

I'm sure Iran knows the rest of the world hate Ahmed and Iran's farcical democracy, in fact that is pretty clear.

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« Reply #54 on: June 19, 2009, 08:23 AM »

Ahmedinejad's web site and the official gov news site have been knocked out by protesters around the world.  If you want to help knock down Khameini's web site, click on linky.   Afro

http://www.pagereboot.com/ie/?url=http://www.khamenei.ir/&refresh=1


NO NO NO!!!! DO NOT DO THIS!!!!

The people who organized this are idiots. Idiots because they do not understand the way Iran's Internet is set up. It is set up like Saudi Arabia's - all incoming and outgoing traffic passes through servers containing the filtering software, so that banned sites on the blacklists return an error page to the computer in Iran.

This means that all the traffic they are sending to Iran - provided it's enough to DDOS the target website's server, will also DDOS the filtering servers, which in turn denies service to everyone in Iran; friends and foes alike.

In short, DO NOT DO THIS because all you are accomplishing is DDOS'ing the Internet for the entire country of Iran, and not just ddos'ing the target websites.

Let us hope they have worked this out and are stopping/have stopped.

PS: There are also reports that the pro-Ahmedinejad sites will DDOS the oppositions sites if they are attacked (ie. passing on the DDOS). There are a couple of ways this could be done, and it is only a rumour at this time, so no further details on exactly how this has been done (if it is true).

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10. Text Messaging is still down in Iran and internet is extremely slow. People are unable to get satellite channels on their televisions. At the same time, police and plainclothesmen are going door to door and taking away people's satellite dish antennas.


No! Gee I *wonder why*!

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« Reply #55 on: June 19, 2009, 08:27 AM »

This guy says it best.

To Those People That Want Obama To Take A Stronger Line In Iran: You Don't Know Anything About Iran

http://isaacs.newsvine.com/_news/2009/06/18/2943063-to-those-people-that-want-obama-to-take-a-stronger-line-in-iran-you-dont-know-anything-about-iran


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« Reply #56 on: June 19, 2009, 08:49 AM »

This guy says it best.

To Those People That Want Obama To Take A Stronger Line In Iran: You Don't Know Anything About Iran

http://isaacs.newsvine.com/_news/2009/06/18/2943063-to-those-people-that-want-obama-to-take-a-stronger-line-in-iran-you-dont-know-anything-about-iran


This is exactly why I am wondering whether the world-wide protests are doing any good-
"There are many moderates who support Moussavi that would likely become disgusted with Moussavi and stop supporting him if he were perceived to be heavily favored by America."

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« Reply #57 on: June 19, 2009, 08:51 AM »

The Green Brief #2
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Hi,

I'm Josh Shahryar AKA NiteOwl and I've been immersed in tweets from Iran for the past several hours. I have tried to be extremely careful in choosing my tweet sources and have tried maximally to avoid listening to media banter. What I have compiled below is what I can confirm through my tweets to have happened in the past day and in the past week in Iran. Remember, this is all from tweets. There is NOTHING included here that is not from a reliable tweet. No news media outlets have been used in the compilation of this short brief as I would like to call it.

These are some of the happenings that I can positively confirm from Friday, June 18:

1. The ?black? protest was held today in Tehran. Most people were wearing black in order to commemorate those protesters killed earlier this week, however, many people joined the protest coming out from work and were not wearing black. Mousavi, Karoubi, Rafsanjani and his family were all at the protests. At the same time, protesters were joined by Mullahs and university professors ? who were apparently very vocal. The numbers of protesters was very high, however, among conflicting report, it seemed safe to estimate the number at least 1.5 million people and possibly much more. Late at night, a candle light vigil was also held. Protesters went to mosques to continue morning late into the night.

2. No violence was reported during the protests from my sources, however, isolated incidents may have occurred of which I did not get information. Sources claimed that the Baseejis tried to provoke people and some even burned things themselves to blame it later on protesters. About a dozen students from the Institute of Theoretical Physics and Mathematics Studies were arrested after the protest as well as scores of others either when found in isolation or in small groups. All universities in Tehran were closed for the day.

3. Unlike before, though, this time plainclothes gunmen were not surrounding the protests. They were spotted from time to time and made most of the arrests. The number of non-Iranian Arabs present around the protests was much smaller than yesterday. Mohammad Tavassali, Former Tehran mayor was also arrested by them today. He is a prominent aide of Rafsanjani. Kaveh Servati, another prominent backer and supporter of Mousavi?s campaign was also detained. Ebrahim Yazdi of the Freedom Movement of Iran, however, has now been freed because of failing health and is in a hospital, but still under strict supervision

4. Other protests were held in Qom, Isfahan, Tabriz, Ahvaz, Shiraz and Mashhad as well as smaller ones in other cities. Sources confirm that people were beaten in Isfahan, Tabriz, Shiraz and in Qom. Many arrests were also made in these cities, however, conflicting reports about their identities prevents this brief from naming them. Many mullahs joined protests in Ahvaz and Mashhad. In Shiraz, thousands of people gathered around a coffin to mourn the protesters who had been killed during previous rallies.

5. Currently, the protest in Tehran is continuing in small numbers in the mosques, and a very reliable source has confirmed that thousands upon thousands of people are protesting at 3 AM (the time of the writing of this dispatch) in Isfahan. Saturday protest in Tehran is to be held at four at Enqelab Field.

6. Abroad, 70 Iranian protesters in Dubai near the Iranian consulate were dispersed by UAE police and were told they had protested enough and needed to go home as their voices had already been heard. In Brussels, a few hundred Ahmadinejad supporters protested in support of him. This happens at a time when no major rallies were held supporting Ahmadinejad in Iran ? not even in the rural areas where his strength lies. The Iranian national press continues to downplay the numbers and importance as well as character of the peaceful protests in Tehran and around Iran in support of Mousavi who spoke along with other leaders in Tehran claiming they won?t stop till their demands are met. Most of the Iranian press inside the country continues to call protesters thugs and hooligans.

7. As the last Brief indicated, Rafsanjani has now openly started supporting Mousavi. Sources indicate that he is currently in negotiations with clerics from Qom and the Guardian Council. However, they also claim that he no longer has the freedom to fly out of the country.

8. The Guardian Council has ordered all the candidates to participate in their next meeting. This meeting will be held in Tehran some time on Saturday. There is no news on whether this is going to be a negotiation or simply an ultimatum to stop the protests ? as indicated by some sources. The Guardian Council had ordered a partial recount before part of which has been carried out and results match previous results that were issued by the government. The Minister of Interior claims results are very accurate.

9. Grand Ayatollah Yousof Sanei ? one the most prominent Shia clerics in the world ? has shown dissatisfaction with the way the government is treating the protests as well as the protesters. He has asked the government to listen to what the protesters have to say and consider their demands seriously.

10. The last dispatch claimed that 8 people had died in Azadi Square in Tehran on Monday. New reports from hospitals through sources show that 12 people had been killed and 29 injured. Today, a student also died in Kermanshah of her wounds that she?d received after being beaten a few days ago. Adding the numbers, now the Brief can confirm that 37 people have at least been killed in the protests so far.

11. The number of people that have been arrested since the start of the protests can be anywhere between 2,000 to 5,000; no reliable estimate exists. But most sources indicate a number somewhere around that. Sources also claim that Baseejis are abducting reformist sympathizers from their hospital beds as well as taking away injured protesters from the ER. No source has been able to pinpoint the location of the abductees. This comes as the governor of Isfahan threatened protesters with death, according to sources there.

12. Mohammad Asgari ? the Ministry of Interior employee who leaked a fraudulent election result sheet, showing Mousavi as the winner to the press ? has been killed in a car accident. The government has not given further information about how and where he has been killed ? sources claim.

13. Letter from professors at Iran University to Mousavi asks him to pursue the goal of getting people's rights and getting back their votes till the end. Students of Iran University's faculty of Fine Arts will be joining the protests officially starting Saturday. Iran Khodro workers ? the largest and national automaker in Iran ? also spent half an hour of each of their working shifts not working. They claimed they were supporting the protesters. Iranian footballers are being touted as heroes by protesters for wearing green bands during their World Cup qualifier game against South Korea by the protesters even though they lost the game and won?t be qualifying to the World Cup as a result.

14. Sources claim that hundreds of Baseej militiamen are being moved from the northwest towards Tehran. It is claimed that the military and now the police are not using harsher tactics to scare away the protesters. It?s being claimed ? yet unverified by all sources ? that many high-ranking members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard have been detained because they were considering to put their lot behind Mousavi and the protesters. One of the sources was escorted home today by policemen after he was in danger of being attacked by Baseejis.

15. And Finally, Mousavi has asked the world to participate in protests on Sunday in support of protests in Iran. He has also asked them to wear green to show their support openly. The request asks protesters to gather in capital cities around the world and show their support.

Finally a few words to those who are reading this:

Iranians who are trying to connect to twitter or other sites and need a way to connect please visit this website: http://torir.org/

For my announcements, see @iran_translator

People Outside Iran: This is as clear and concise as I can be. I have not included ANYTHING that I have sensed to be remotely fishy, but human error will always manifests itself in even the most flawless of non-mathematical things. However, this includes nothing from the Western media, including the BBC which I have been generously using to inform people and I laud them for their courageous journalism.

People Inside Iran: Don't believe a WORD of what I am telling you. Do what you think is best, keeping everything in mind. I know LITTLE of what you know so make your decisions based on your OWN judgment.

People Who Want to Send Me Tweet Links: You don't need to find me, I will find you. Don't hassle yourself. Your voice will be heard through millions of others like me.

People Who Want to Hunt Me Down: I'm an Afghan. If you ever tried to attack me, you'll see my back only after your back has met the ground.

P.S. Please post this around. I will be writing one brief of this kind everyday until this ends.


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« Reply #58 on: June 19, 2009, 09:39 AM »

Yeah, we know. Ahmedejihad is your hero because he opposes the nasty, nasty imperialists. The oppressed Iranian people are just collateral damage.


Ahmedenijad is a twat but this stuff isn't the real deal. The majority aren't ready/prepared/this isn't the right conditions or times to overthrow the Islamic Republic. These are a minority of m/c liberals. But there's an attempt to use this to help destabilize the country.


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« Reply #59 on: June 19, 2009, 09:51 AM »

Be careful twitters! Ayotollah is reading your tweets! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/ayatollah-warns-iranians_b_217896.html Cheesy


There is a petition asking google to update Google Earth's satellite images so we can find out what's going on in Iran. Not sure if this will work, aren't there any legal problems with this?
Petition here- http://twitition.com/csfeo

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« Reply #60 on: June 19, 2009, 09:53 AM »

There is a petition asking google to update Google Earth's satellite images so we can find out what's going on in Iran. Not sure if this will work, aren't there any legal problems with this?
Petition here- http://twitition.com/csfeo


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« Reply #61 on: June 19, 2009, 10:01 AM »

That's strange, it's working for me...


A report by Amnesty - Ayatollah Khamenei's Speech Gives Legitimacy to Police Brutality, Charges Amnesty International

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« Reply #62 on: June 19, 2009, 10:42 AM »

The Fear is Gone - Well worth a read.

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« Reply #63 on: June 19, 2009, 11:51 AM »

There is a petition asking google to update Google Earth's satellite images so we can find out what's going on in Iran. Not sure if this will work, aren't there any legal problems with this?
Petition here- http://twitition.com/csfeo

Here is another petition about the same subject but it has 4 times as many signatures-
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/irangooglemap/   

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« Reply #64 on: June 22, 2009, 06:15 PM »

And they're still at it................ Roll Eyes
Iran Revolutionary Guard threaten protest crackdown

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TEHRAN (Reuters) - Police broke up a protest in Tehran on Monday hours after the hardline Revolutionary Guards said they would crush any fresh resistance from "rioters."

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The statement on Monday by the Guards, viewed as the most loyal guardians of the ruling clerical establishment, clearly signaled a crackdown on any fresh unrest over the re-election of hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

"In the current sensitive situation ... the Guards will firmly confront in a revolutionary way rioters and those who violate the law," said a statement on the Guards' website.

Now I just love the bullshit factor here. How is supporting a corrupt establishment "revolutionary"? Isn't massive and blatant electoral fraud supposed to be against Iranian law?


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Iranian authorities have accused Western powers of supporting the protests -- the most widespread since 1979 -- and have not ruled out expulsions of some European ambassadors.

Sweden, the European Union's next president, said members should consider drafting a plan to take in and provide aid to demonstrators at their Iranian embassies, while Italy said it was prepared to open its embassy to wounded protesters.

This is good. I like the buggers already.  grin12


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Iranian state television said 10 people were killed and more than 100 wounded in demonstrations in Tehran on Saturday, which defied a warning from Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

The office of Tehran's prosecutor general blamed the weekend deaths on "unknown vandals" who had opened fire on civilians and killed people on Saturday, Press TV quoted it as saying.

Yeah. Right. Roll Eyes


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Iranians on social networking sites called for mourning for 'Neda', a young woman shot dead on Saturday. Footage of her death has been watched by thousands on the Internet and her image has become an icon of the protests.

But witnesses said security officials prevented her funeral from going ahead, blocking roads leading to a central Tehran mosque where the ceremony was to have taken place.

"Police were spraying paint on the cars of those who insisted on driving toward the mosque," said one witness.

Her fiance, Caspian Makan, told BBC Persian TV that the woman it identified as Neda Agha-Soltan had been caught up accidentally in the protests.

"She was near the area, a few streets away, from where the main protests were taking place, near the Amir Abad area. She was with her music teacher, sitting in a car and stuck in traffic," it quoted him as saying.

"She was feeling very tired and very hot. She got out of the car for just for a few minutes.

Assholes.


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Britain announced it was withdrawing the families of embassy staff in Iran because of the violence, which Iran continued to blame on the West -- principally Britain and the United States.

"The promotion of anarchy and vandalism by Western powers and media is by no means acceptable," Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hassan Qashqavi told a news conference.

The authorities reject charges of fraud but a spokesman for Iran's top legislative body, which is looking into complaints by the defeated election candidates, conceded that the number of votes had surpassed eligible voters in some constituencies.

Gotta totally love that bit. There was no fraud but the number of votes surpassed the number of people who could vote? I suppose the West is to blame for that too. Cheesy


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« Reply #65 on: June 23, 2009, 01:10 AM »

See youtube channel citizentube for all the protest videos.

http://www.youtube.com/citizentube?feature=ticker

This one was awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp5F0nIqR_I

The riot police are being beaten and fleeing from the people.

Makes me want to riot, but I would fail at marching cos I have a bad balance disorder, so all I would ever be able to do is stay put inside my house :(

They have protest videos from outside the embassies in other countries as well, click the Iran protests around the whole world playlist on the right hand side.

Heres one of them, a  protest in Paris:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itibtJg2NHA



I were shocked to hear that the Indian government congratulated Ahmadinejad on his re-election, biggest failure democracy in the world that place is.

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We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

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« Reply #66 on: June 23, 2009, 03:54 AM »

Iranian who leaked election results may have been assassinated
An Iranian man said to have released the genuine result of last Friday's presidential election is reported to have been killed in a suspicious car accident.

Mohammad Asgari, who worked for the Iranian interior ministry to protect the security of its IT network allegedly released results showing that the government used new software to rig the result, reports the Guardian's Saeed Kamali Dehghan, citing unconfirmed reports.

Officially President Ahmadinejad received two thirds of the vote with around 24.5 million votes, while his closest rival, Mir Hossein Mousavi, received over 13 million votes.

For full coverage of the Iranian elections click here

According to the leaked figures Mr Ahmadinejad actually came third in a four-horse race whilst Mr Mousavi received the most votes with 19 million ballots cast in his favour.

In other reports one Iranian website said that voter turnout in as many as 30 towns was higher than 100%.

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« Reply #67 on: June 23, 2009, 04:26 AM »

I've shortened Brief's 3-5 to reduce the length of the post but posted the most important news.

Green Brief #3
13. Anonymous and the Pirate Bay are working as hard as they can to provide proxies to people so they can at least use twitter to get us what is happening. At the time of the writing of this brief, the majority of helpers involved in helping Iranian voices to be heard have not slept for days or very little. One helper confirmed that he hadn?t had warm food until today since the protests began on Saturday (Although he?s a n00b and we don?t care about him much, j/k ). But still, fully half of the sources who were used in compiling the past two Green Briefs and this Brief have gone quiet, left Tehran or have been arrested as their identities are being found by the government. The paramedic who made people cry by his distress about his missing daughter that he found has left Tehran and is in a safe place now. Our hearts and thoughts go to all those who are bravely going to participate in tomorrow?s protests.


Green Brief #4
11. As the injured were shipped to hospitals, many were directly taken away into custody without even reaching the hospital. Sources also confirm that government forces then went to hospitals and picked up the injured, hauling them out and taking them to undisclosed locations. The arrest of injured protesters is so massive that our sources have pleaded with everyone inside Iran to NOT go to hospitals.

12. Several embassies in Tehran opened up their doors to injured protesters. They include the embassies of Slovenia, Dutch, Italian, British, Australian, Romania, Czech Republic, Denmark and Germany. There are rumors of other embassies opening their doors to injured protesters as well; however, they cannot be positively confirmed. It has also been confirmed that the Canadian Embassy has closed its doors and turned away injured protesters and told them they are not accepting anyone. (Edit: However, now - 4 hours after the writing of this brief - some secondary sources claim Canada is accepting them and have put on a request for more doctors to come and join them in helping injured protesters.)


Green Brief #5
2. The majority of Mousavi?s advisors and important aides have all been arrested. He has been left with only a handful of junior political workers and is currently under effective house arrest as he not allowed to speak to journalists or make any other statements. His movement has been limited today and he did not appear at any gatherings. His Facebook account and most of the news websites affiliated with him as well as his website and websites of his supporters have more less all been either hacked or now under effective government control. False statements regularly issued from the hacked accounts. GhalamNet can not longer be trusted and his Facebook account is currently being used by the Iranian government to place information so that the protesters can either lose hope or get violent.

3. Even in this state, however, Mousavi has continued his call for a general strike on Tuesday. He has also called all citizens to turn the headlights of their cars on from 5 to 6 PM on Monday in order to commemorate those that have been killed in the protests during the past week and the few days after. He has reportedly called upon people to go on an indefinite strike until their demands are met if he is to be killed by government.


And here's the final one-

Green Brief #6
Please retweet this link. I'm Josh Shahryar AKA NiteOwl - iran_translator on twitter - and I've been immersed in tweets from Iran for the past several hours. I have tried to be extremely careful in choosing my tweet sources and have tried maximally to avoid listening to media banter. What I have compiled below is what I can confirm through my tweets to have happened in the past day and in the past week in Iran. Remember, this is all from tweets. There is NOTHING included here that is not from a reliable tweet. No news media outlets have been used in the compilation of this short brief as I would like to call it.

These are the important happenings that I can positively confirm from Monday, June 22 in Iran. (If I cannot positively confirm, I have indicated that I can't.)

1.   Protests were held throughout Tehran today. The main protest was held at 7 Tir Square where 3-5 thousand people gathered to remember and mourn Neda ? the protester killed on Saturday. However, soon hundreds of IRG, police, Basij and plainclothesmen gathered and violently tried to disperse the protesters. It took hours to disperse all the protesters. The security forces used batons and fired tear gas shells as well as firing weapons in the air. Dozens of people were injured, including many women. Helicopters were flying over Tehran for the second day. There were also reports of helicopters firing tear gas shells at people ? they have not been fully confirmed.

2.   There was also a gathering of about 1,000 people in Valiasr Avenue, meeting security forces who sparked a confrontation. It was not as violent as the one on 7 Tir, but many people were injured there as well. There was a huge rally held by Ahmadinejad?s supporters at Valiasr for his victory speech. The participants were mostly people from the provinces, children and older Iranians. There were also a large number of government employees.

3.   News of protests around the country was not relayed through tweets much today; however, sources confirmed that at least some rallies and protests were held in Tabriz where protesters met with violent attacks by the security forces. Later in the night as people chanted Allah o Akbar from the rooftops, there were reports of clashes in northern and western Tehran between protesters and security forces. Chants of Allah o Akbar also echoed across the country. Candles were lit throughout the country in memory of protesters that have been killed so far. The number of confirmed deaths stands close to 50 now and there have been more than a thousand injured.

4.   Sources claim that the government is considering expelling some diplomatic missions because they?ve helped protesters or are accused of masterminding the unrest. The government earlier in the day alleged that the US had paid 400 million dollars to people in order to organize unrest in Iran. They also blamed the UK and Germany ? saying the latter was coaxed into taking action by Israel ? how Israel manages to coax other countries was beyond our sources? The Guardian Council has now announced that there were 3 million extra votes cast. Other information is unreliable at this point or various sources exist.

5.   The government is actively trying to suppress news from getting out. BBC and Al-Arabiya?s correspondents were told to get out in 24 hours, twitter sites are being hacked, people are being tricked into getting out late at night by others chanting in the streets who are actually Basijis and the spread of spam and propaganda on twitter. The government has also established dozens of sites with pictures of protesters, asking people to identify them. At least two of these sites that were based abroad have been taken down by hackers sympathetic to Iranians today.

6.   There are sporadic reports coming in from Qom at this point. Sources claim that Rafsanjani who was in Qom has had meetings with clerics inside Qom. It has been also reported ? but not confirmed ? for the past three days that Ayatollah Montazeri has declared a three days? mourning period. It likely is a hoax because it has not been confirmed by anyone. What can be confirmed is that the Council of Combatant Clerics ? which includes in its members Rafsanjani and Nateq Noori ? have backed the protesters. Khamanei is going to lead Friday prayers in Tehran. If there was a speech, we'll have a translation availble here within the hour.

7.   Hamzeh Ghalebi, head of Mousavi's youth headquarters and Reza Homaye, another reformist and backer of Mousavi, have been arrested. There have been arrests of numerous other reformists and backers of Mousavi, Karoubi, Noori and Rafsanjani. The total number of people that have been arrested is still anyone?s guess. Reports indicate somewhere between five and ten thousand.

8.   Tuesday has been declared a national strike by Mousavi and his backers. Already close to half of the shops in Tehran were closed on Sunday. (Sunday is not a holiday in Iran; Friday is.) It has been reported that in the provinces, people are excited about the news and many important figures in provinces are openly or secretly backing the call. The government is threatening people that they?ll be fired if they didn?t show up at their jobs on Tuesday.

9.   Thursday, rallies will be held in Tehran. The location of the major rally in the city has not been disclosed. According to sources, this has been done so that the government couldn?t be prepared. In anticipation, the government has placed thousands of police and Basiji inside Tehran, turning stadiums into headquarters and areas for gathering for these security forces.

10.   Our sources have strongly denounced the commercialization of the Sea of Green (That?s what most of them call the protests) by various people around the world. They have especially disliked how some people put advertisements on twitter with #iran or #iranelection on them as well as #neda. They have also shown outrage over the fact that Nokia and Siemens were exposed to have supplied the Iranian government with equipment to help censor their voices on the internet and over cell phones.

11.   Finally, Mousavi has yet again called on the people of the world to rally in support of the plight of Iran?s people on Thursday. This is the second time Mousavi has called on citizens of Planet Earth to stand up and support the voices of Iranians.


Read this if you want to help or get help!

Iranians who are trying to connect to twitter or other sites and need a way to connect please try these!:

67.174.201.136:9001 AE4DE948A8F37F18D886C5545F375AB246647837
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« Reply #68 on: June 23, 2009, 05:26 AM »

This site provides all the important info posted on twitter- http://www.siyese.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=434

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« Reply #69 on: June 23, 2009, 07:20 AM »

IMO, Ahmadinijad is a f***ing peasant with a peasant's mentality.  That's why the clerical establishment love him so much and back him even if this election was rigged.

I definitely see another popular revolt on the horizon for Iran as the current system has become just as odious as that of the Shah's, the only difference is that the mullahs use religion to get their way but they ignore the needs and demands of the public, just as the Shah did in his waning years.


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« Reply #70 on: June 23, 2009, 07:39 AM »

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as the current system has become just as odious as that of the Shah's

Much more odious, actually. The Islamic Revolution killed more people than the Shah ever did. There are still some royalist factions, I think.


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« Reply #71 on: June 23, 2009, 10:32 AM »

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The UK is to expel two Iranian diplomats in a tit-for-tat action after Tehran ordered two UK diplomats to leave the country.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown announced the move in the House of Commons.

He said it was in response to Iran ordering two UK diplomats to leave the country over allegations that were "absolutely without foundation".

Mr Brown added that he was "disappointed that Iran has placed us in this position".

The prime minister said: "Iran yesterday took the unjustified step of expelling two British diplomats over allegations which are absolutely without foundation.

"In response to that action, we informed the Iranian ambassador today that we would expel two Iranian diplomats from their embassy in London."

The Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) did not specify the identities of the individuals being expelled from Iran, except to say they are diplomats, rather than support staff, and the British ambassador is not one of them.

Conservative leader David Cameron supported the decision to expel the Iranian diplomats.

He said: "The expulsion of diplomats by Iran is clearly not acceptable and Britain should respond."



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8115358.stm

The Iranian regime is also adopting Saddam's old tactic of charging families of people they shoot for the bullets...

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Upon learning of his son's death, the elder Mr. Alipour was told the family had to pay an equivalent of $3,000 as a "bullet fee"?a fee for the bullet used by security forces?before taking the body back, relatives said.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124571865270639351.html


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« Reply #72 on: June 23, 2009, 03:10 PM »

IMO, Ahmadinijad is a f***ing peasant with a peasant's mentality.  


Yea, most uneducated Indians from rural villages are just like him. He reminds me of plenty of nutcases that I know, but fortunately we dont give religious peasants controll over a whole country.


***WARNING*** This is a very graphic and disturbing video and made me cry  :'( . Dont watch it if you do not want to see the graphic details of a shot protester dying.

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=channel&v=zk6_NZVo1Xs

There are enough warnings in the video before it shows the footage, but it covers a lot of important issues about Iran that the world needs to be able to see and understand.


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We keep hearing about how Jack Straw or the French government have mentioned the veil and our doing so puts us in the same boat as them. How so? I want a ban on the burka, neqab and child veiling.

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« Reply #73 on: June 24, 2009, 12:48 AM »

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1. Although most sources had confirmed that there was going to be a strike today in Tehran, the city had only partially closed down its shops. Throughout the day reports kept arriving that Mousavi had not ordered the strike, however, most people continued urging protesters to comply with the strike. It seemed that there was a complete lack of coordination between the movement and its leader. This is the first time it has happened, however, and seems to be a direct result of government?s tireless efforts at trying to jam communications between protesters and their leaders.

2. There were sporadic reports of a more successful strike in parts of the Kurdish-inhabited areas of northwestern Iran. In Kurdistan province, the cities of Sanadanj and Seqqez were reported to have had half their shops closed. There were also reports from Mahabad in Western Azerbaijan province to the north of Kurdistan province. That city is also inhabited by Kurds. The main stream media has not confirmed these reports; however, sources were pretty uniform about the veracity of them. There have been unrests in Mashhad and Tabriz as well, but no solid news came out for us to investigate further.

3. People in Tehran, though, acted in different ways to continue to defy the authorities. There were anti-government posters stuck on walls, anti-government slogans adorned parts of the walls of the city and waves of small rallies broke out in various parts of the city. Car headlights were turned on in the city at dark to commemorate those killed in the protests and chants of Allah o Akbar continued to ring loudly at night. Among these chants, there were also chants of ?Death to the Dictator? and surprisingly enough, some people also chanted ?Death of Khamenei? ? although the last one was only reported in isolated areas.

4. The city of Tehran was literally crawling with Basijis and police. There were roadblocks everywhere and the streets were heavily patrolled by the security forces. Most sources complained that going outside was dangerous for anyone ? even if the person wasn?t a protester as security forces continued to beat up anyone they could get their hands on.

5. There were reports of clashes in northern, western and eastern Tehran between small numbers of protesters and the security forces, though; no news of any casualties reached us. Shots were fired late at night as well, but still no word of casualties today. People had started small fires on the streets that were continuously being put down by the security forces.

6. Arrests continue to take place throughout the day. Journalists from Kalemeh newspaper were picked up and there were unconfirmed reports of the arrest of at least 2 journalists affiliated with the foreign media, however, the latter claim could not be independently verified. One of these is a Greek reporter with the Washington Times. The government has now announced the creation of a special court in order to investigate and decide the cases of people who have been so far arrested by the government.

7. There was also sickening news of security forces asking the families of protesters who?d been killed for large sums of money ? typically between 3-5 thousand dollars - as a ?bullet fee? if they wanted the bodies of their dead relatives back. At least two cases were confirmed by our reliable sources, but it seems to have not picked up with MSM yet. Also, relatives of protesters went today to Evin prison to see if they could get information about the ones arrested recently. They were turned away without a chance to verify whether their relatives were in custody.

8. The Iranian government continued to blame the West for Iran?s current state of affairs. As a direct result of this, Iran expelled to British diplomats in protest, resulting in the expulsion of two Iranian diplomats by the British government. There are reports of the EU mulling over imposing sanctions against Iran. Shirin Ebadi ? the Nobel Peace Prize laureate from Iran ? has asked the world to only impose political and not economic sanctions on Iran.

9. Mousavi and Khatami?s offices have told their supporters to use a different tactic to get their demands by going to the bazaars with their families everyday starting Tuesday at 9 and not buy anything at all. If anyone is to ask them, they?re to say they?re there to shop. According to Khatami, time had come people to stop wasting their energies on the government in the old ways and start new ways of defying the authorities? refusal to meet their demands. According to Khatami, the actions described above will halt all business in Tehran.

10. State media in Iran are continuing to denounce protesters as thugs, hooligans and terrorists. It has been reported that Keyhan Daily?s tomorrow?s edition is going to call for Mousavi?s arrest. Reports were also published and broadcasted about Mohsen Rezaee ? on of the four candidates during the election ? has taken back all his complaints against the elections. Khamenei has extended the period for registering complaints against the elections for five more days. The deadline was Wednesday, before.

11. Throughout the day, there were reports of Mousavi organizing a fresh rally as well as Karoubi calling on people to stage rallies in different locations. Both leaders were said to have wanted rallies late afternoon on Thursday. Yet, the reports were often so conflicted that for now, the place and time of the protests cannot be verified. As before, it seems they are trying to confuse the government into keeping less armed personnel around the protest area by not letting them know where it?s actually at. So far, reliable sources have mostly agreed upon a rally at Baharestan Square in the late afternoon.

12. There was word all over twitter about Britain freezing more than a billion dollars worth of Iranian assets as a result of the protests. However, this had actually happened way before the protests as a result of Iran?s non-compliance with the recommendations of IAEA during the nuclear standoff.

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« Reply #74 on: June 25, 2009, 08:45 PM »

See youtube channel citizentube for all the protest videos.

http://www.youtube.com/citizentube?feature=ticker

This one was awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp5F0nIqR_I

The riot police are being beaten and fleeing from the people.

Makes me want to riot, but I would fail at marching cos I have a bad balance disorder, so all I would ever be able to do is stay put inside my house :(

They have protest videos from outside the embassies in other countries as well, click the Iran protests around the whole world playlist on the right hand side.

Heres one of them, a  protest in Paris:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itibtJg2NHA



I were shocked to hear that the Indian government congratulated Ahmadinejad on his re-election, biggest failure democracy in the world that place is.



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