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  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #30 - September 18, 2014, 07:07 PM

    Unorthodox Trotskyist with third worldist economic leanings.
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #31 - September 23, 2014, 12:05 PM

    I'm left-wing. Conservatives have just been too vicious towards me growing up for me to support them. Anyone who can treat another person like crap for no good reason isn't quite right in the head, now are they? And conservatives treat gay/bi people like utter shit. In fact, it has been my personal experience that conservatives actively seek out anyone who's suffering and kick them real hard. They're bitter and pathologically aggressive.

    Recently, in Australia, the conservative youth party leader made a bunch of comments about how disgusting butch lesbians are and how it makes him sick when women don't shave their legs. The conservatives who run the country didn't even bother to distant themselves from the comments. They just took the "young people will be young people" approach.

    I don't think any good can come from leaders who have so little regard for others.

    The misspelling in my name is intentional, because I'm an idiot and I can't spell properly. But I'd probably also say that even if it was a mistake. Does that clear things up?
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #32 - September 23, 2014, 01:20 PM

    Libertarian socialist
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #33 - September 24, 2014, 02:22 PM

    Socially liberal orthodox left, none of this contemporary neo left nonsense of sucking up to the islamic far right.
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #34 - September 24, 2014, 03:02 PM

    What on earth is ortho-left?
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #35 - September 24, 2014, 03:50 PM

    These laboured political positions make me laugh.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #36 - September 24, 2014, 05:02 PM

    What on earth is ortho-left?


    A time when the left was critical of theology and theocracy, the founders and foundations of the left. ie Napolean, Marx, Trotsky Etc.

    Contemporary left are institutions  such as the Jihadian I mean Guardian who've taken a big swerve to the right with their alliance/sympathies/justifications with the/for the  islamic far right
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #37 - September 24, 2014, 05:26 PM

    Humanist, I guess. Not really a political position, but then again I don't really have too high a regard for the way in which current political processes shape communities.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #38 - September 24, 2014, 08:44 PM

    Quote
    Humanist, I guess. Not really a political position, but then again I don't really have too high a regard for the way in which current political processes shape communities.


    Humanist is good.

    The misspelling in my name is intentional, because I'm an idiot and I can't spell properly. But I'd probably also say that even if it was a mistake. Does that clear things up?
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #39 - September 25, 2014, 08:18 AM

    Libertarian socialist

    isnt that an oxymoron? libertarians are for small government…socialists are the ultimate statists.
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #40 - September 25, 2014, 08:20 AM

    What's funny is that in Australia, the more conservative of the two main parties is called the "Liberal Party". grin12

    So, over here, it's quite normal for people to be both conservative and Liberal simultaneously.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #41 - September 25, 2014, 08:30 AM

    im guessing by liberal they mean neoliberal.
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #42 - September 25, 2014, 08:35 AM

    Dunno. In some parts of the US it's almost a synonym for communist.

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  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #43 - September 25, 2014, 11:42 AM

    'Un pour tous, tous pourris.'

    Fuck 'em all.
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #44 - September 25, 2014, 12:23 PM

    I am intrigued by the sheer variety of opinions on this subject.

    For the Marxists among you, perhaps you have never heard the story of the poor waiter in Paris.  An hotel waiter brought Marx a bottle of Champagne which, unfortunately, had not been properly chilled.  Marx created a terrible fuss about this, and demanded that the waiter be fired. (which he immediately was)  Just like many religious leaders, Marx was more concerned with control over the masses than he was with their freedom.

    As for the legalisation of all drugs, which was recommended by one contributor, my only concern is for the welfare of society.  If someone is wealthy enough to be a drug addict without placing a burden on society, fine.  For those who are drug dependent and rely on state hand outs and health care which is paid for by the rest of society, not fine.  I think that the majority of Brits are sick to death of paying for the irresponsible behaviour of the few, and weary of the libertarian excuses that go along with their attitude to the rest of society.

    As for party loyalties, this is the biggest con of all.  The only way that the views of society can be properly reflected in the political life of our country is by Direct Democracy.  I couldn't care less what politicians say, as the only true measure of right or wrong is majority opinion.  I do not want to vote for people who are going to tell me how the country is to be run, I want to vote on issues which affect the day to day lives of our citizens.  The gulf between political policy and public opinion is vast  ---- so who do these shysters claim to be representing? 

    There was also a suggestion that conservative politicians had a down on homosexuality, but one look at the number of homosexuals in our parliament should allay those fears.  It is rife in political circles, and practically compulsory in the liberal party.

    Kind Regards,
    Stephen.
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #45 - September 25, 2014, 10:43 PM

    I am intrigued by the sheer variety of opinions on this subject.

    For the Marxists among you, perhaps you have never heard the story of the poor waiter in Paris.  An hotel waiter brought Marx a bottle of Champagne which, unfortunately, had not been properly chilled.  Marx created a terrible fuss about this, and demanded that the waiter be fired. (which he immediately was) 


    My turn to be intrigued. Can you point me at a source for this account?
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #46 - September 26, 2014, 01:58 AM

    Yeah this place is going to be Liberal City, sister.

    Most people here are under 30.

    remember the old adage attributed to Churchill:
    "If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart.  If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain."

    Late Eid Mubarak, Where's my eidee present ?
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #47 - September 26, 2014, 06:20 AM

    Liberal/democratic socialist. I couldn't be conservative because I hate 'traditional values'.
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #48 - September 26, 2014, 07:54 AM

    Yeah this place is going to be Liberal City, sister.

    Most people here are under 30.

    remember the old adage attributed to Churchill:
    "If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart.  If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain."

    well then, that old timer., Churchill: neither knew definitions of liberal  and conservative., nor he knew anything about the function of human organs the heart and the brain., 

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #49 - September 26, 2014, 09:49 AM

    Yeah this place is going to be Liberal City, sister.

    Most people here are under 30.

    remember the old adage attributed to Churchill:
    "If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart.  If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain."


    This
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #50 - September 26, 2014, 09:52 AM

    Yeah but mubs, you've demonstrated you have no brain anyway.  Cheesy

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  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #51 - September 26, 2014, 10:09 AM

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    Men who are strong are more likely to take a right-wing stance, while weaker men support the welfare state, researchers claim.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2325414/Men-physically-strong-likely-right-wing-political-views.html


    Quote
    Suffrage coincided with immediate increases in state government expenditures and revenue and more liberal voting patterns for federal representatives, and these effects continued growing over time as more women took advantage of the franchise.

    http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~iversen/PDFfiles/LottKenny.pdf
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #52 - September 26, 2014, 10:33 AM

    Ok. And?

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  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #53 - September 26, 2014, 10:39 AM

    You cant see why that would be relevant on a discussion about whether people vote Left or Right?
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #54 - September 26, 2014, 11:11 AM

    That first article might have meant what you were hoping it meant if the quality (physical strength) wasn't something one could choose to maintain or neglect. A lot of guys who spend their time building their upper body strength are also the sort who will be conservative voters? You done blew my mind.
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #55 - September 26, 2014, 11:14 AM

    toor,

    I am unable to provide you with a source for this account, as it is something I learned many years ago.

    Perhaps I will attempt to find a reliable source over the next day or so.

    Kind Regards,
    Stephen.
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #56 - September 26, 2014, 11:16 AM

    You cant see why that would be relevant on a discussion about whether people vote Left or Right?


    Please do enlighten us on this further. What exactly do you mean?

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #57 - September 26, 2014, 11:23 AM

    That first article might have meant what you were hoping it meant if the quality (physical strength) wasn't something one could choose to maintain or neglect. A lot of guys who spend their time building their upper body strength are also the sort who will be conservative voters? You done blew my mind.


    obviously real men are strong and manly and are for such masculine virtues as fiscal responsibility and traditional values…dem latte-sipping liberal "men" can't even lift and are always asking for handouts from gubmint. 
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #58 - September 26, 2014, 11:27 AM

    Yeah this place is going to be Liberal City, sister.

    Most people here are under 30.

    remember the old adage attributed to Churchill:
    "If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart.  If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain."


    Ah, yes. True words of wisdom that will be relevant forever. And especially so since you say it's attached to Churchill. There's no reason why we shouldn't take the social opinions of a successful old white guy who was born in the 1800's seriously in 2014, right?
  • Conservative or liberal
     Reply #59 - September 26, 2014, 11:28 AM

    obviously real men are strong and manly and are for such masculine virtues as fiscal responsibility and traditional values…dem latte-sipping liberal "men" can't even lift and are always asking for handouts from gubmint. 


    Grin Are we related?
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