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  • Worst teaching from Islam
     OP - June 12, 2016, 11:09 AM


    Most evil teaching # 1: Islam's paradise of evil, demented, depraved sexual perversity

    Verse 9:111 – Muslim's passport to paradise

    "Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph."

    Islam teaches that if Muslims slay or are slain (kill or are killed) in the service of God, i.e. Jihad, they are guaranteed accession to Allah's paradise of depraved sexual perversity. Islam's Paradise is filled with whorish virgins possessing voluptuous breasts and lustrous eyes. Muslims, blessed with an access to Paradise, will have 72 such virgins to engage in incessant copulation. Furthermore, a Muslim's surest way of getting a passport to Paradise, says Allah, is to get slain while trying to kill the kafirs. The Quran is no more a holy book than Playboy, Penthouse, and Hustler are holy books. Indeed, the Quran is worse in that it incites unrestrained murder of infidels.

    Most evil teaching # 2: Kill the infidels wherever you find them

    Quran 9:5 (the infamous verse of the sword inciting mass murder):

    "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

    Verse 9:5 teaches Muslims to commit mass-murder. The kafirs must either convert to Islam, who would keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate (zakat), or be murdered. Command for unconditional slaying of humans, God's own creations, by other humans – when presented as a sacred teaching of the almighty Creator – becomes a most evil teaching. Needless to say, such teachings never came from God.

    Most evil teaching # 3: Extortion verse:

    Quran 9:29:

    "Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low."

    Here, Allah the Islamic God commands Muslims to attack and kill the so-called 'people of the book' (i.e. Jews and Christians), until they are defeated and submitted to the supremacy of Islam and, in willing humiliation, pay jizya (submission) tax to Muslims. Like verse 9:5, 9:29 is a call to mass murder and extermination. Only Hitler had openly instructed his followers to exterminate the Jews so completely. When such a teaching is presented as a teaching of the Creator of the Universe, it becomes extremely evil.

    Most evil teaching # 4: Verse of barbaric cruelty

    Quran 5:32-33

    In order to portray Islam as a wonderful religion, Muslim taqiyah tacticians, including President Obama, will always quote the verse 5:32, which says, "We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind."

    Verse 5:32 is a teaching of mass extermination and genocide. When President Barrack Obama gave his speech in Cairo, he quoted from Verse 5.32 "whosoever killeth a human being, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind."

    Isn't this a wonderful teaching from a wonderful God worthy of quotation by the President? Wait a moment while I grab my handkerchief and clear the tears from my eyes. It is just such a beautiful teaching. "whosoever killeth a human being, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind." Only a true God could create such a teaching of love. Could provide such guidance for mankind. A divine, timeless teaching worthy of a divine, timeless God.

    But wait a moment. The President did not quote Verse 5:32 correctly. He left out a most important part of the teaching. God has created in his infinite wisdom two exceptions to his teaching." whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind," We can killeth a human being for manslaughter and corruption in the earth and it will not be the killing of all mankind.

    And what does the exception "corruption in the land" mean. All human beings who do not convert to Islam have declared war on Islam and Allah, are a danger to Allah, and therefore have created corruption in the land and must be murdered. All Apostates of Islam by rejecting Islam are creating corruption in the land. Muslim women who demand equality with men are creating corruption in the land. All Muslim girls who refuse to obey their fathers by adopting Western culture are creating corruption in the land. And on and on.

    President Obama quoted Verse 5:32 in his Cairo speech as a symbol of the wonderful, wonder of Islam. The President quoted a teaching that justifies the mass murder of 305,000,000 Americans who are non-Muslim. This is a teaching of madness masquerading as a teaching of love. And how are the kafirs to be murdered for making "corruption in the land." Read the following Verse 5:33

    Verse 5:33 says:

    "The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;"

    Teachings as contained in this verse – "they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land" – are cruel and barbaric in nature. When those teachings are presented as God's, it becomes extremely evil, no better than those Hitler had committed.

    Most evil teaching # 5: Allah's teaching of pedophilia

    Quran 65:4:

    "And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed divorce period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death]. And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens) (give birth) and whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make his matter easy for him."

    The most important duty of any species is the care and protection of its young. The prime duty of mankind is to raise children in a safe and caring environment, so they can progress into responsible adults. There is no worse crime than the sexual abuse and exploitation of children. But verse 65:4 clearly approves marriages and sexual copulation with pre-pubescent little girls, who haven't started menstruating yet. And Muhammad at the age of 50 duly complied with this sanction of Allah by marrying his niece Aisha, only 6 years old. This is an extremely evil teaching. Allah is a pedophile monster.

    Most evil teaching # 6: Sanctioning unrestrained slavery and rape for Muhammad by his Allah

    Verse 33.50 says:

    "O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those [slaves] whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her – specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful".

    The term "possessions of the right hand" mean slaves. It is expressly stated that Muhammad's slaves, which he attained as a share of the captives in raiding infidels communities, were actually given to him by Allah Himself. And Allah also makes raping them halal for Muhammad (and his Muslim followers).

    The verse also gives a special privilege to Muhammad to marry as many wives as he desires, beyond the restriction of four wives for ordinary Muslims. When God's teachings encourage a people to wage wars to capture the women for raping as well as encourages His holy prophet to engage in unrestrained marriage for sexual gratification, there can't be a teaching as evil as this in such matters.

    Most evil teaching # 7: Sanction of wife beating

    Quran 4:34:

    "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

    A Muslim woman is the property of her husband. A Muslim husband has the legal right and religious obligation to beat a wife if she disobeys him, is disloyal to him or simply does not please him. The concept of wife abuse does not exist in Islam. There is no concept of martial rape. A Muslim woman cannot refuse sex with her husband. According to Islamic law, a husband may strike his wife for any one of the following four reasons:

    She does not attempt to make herself beautiful for him (i.e. "let's herself go")

    She refuses to meet his sexual demands

    She leaves the house without his permission or a "legitimate reason"

    She neglects her religious duties

    Any of these are also sufficient grounds for divorce. These are evil affronts to the idea of equality and dignity of women – very evil teachings, indeed.

    Most evil teaching # 8: Allah takes a shares of plundered booty

    Quran 8:41:

    "And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah, - and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer, - if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing, - the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things."

    This verse was revealed about how the booty captured in wars – such as after attacking and mass-slaughtering the Jews of Banu Quraiza – would be distributed. And most horribly the Islamic Allah Himself claims a share of the booty along with His prophet. God is the Creator of everything in the Universe. When that God encourages some people to attack and mass-murder others, so He Himself can take a share from the wealth captured from those murder people – no evil can get higher than this.

    Most evil teaching # 9: Allah is a barbarian

    Quran 24:2 says:

    "The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication, -- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by God, if ye believe in God and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment."

    This verse says that Muslims must not have mercy on people, who commit adultery or fornication, and punish them brutally with 100 lashes in public. However, since other verses in the Quran specifically allow men to have sex slaves, the horrible crime of serial rape against a non-Muslim woman is not considered adultery or fornication and would not be punished as the woman would be considered God-given concubine.

    What kind of person could flog a woman 100 times for having sex with the man she loves? On the other hand, Islamic God, evil as He is, allows men to force sex upon their unwilling wives (verse 4:34). Undoubtedly the God of Islam is out and out barbaric to sanction evil teachings such as these.

    Most evil teaching # 10: Teachings of torture, enslavement, beheading cruelty, eye-for-eye …..

    There is a gigantic tie for the tenth most evil teaching. There are 3,990 teachings of the Quran that are equally evil. All these teachings are immoral depravity. Not being words/teachings of Moral Perfection - the Quran is not Moral Perfection and therefore not from God, therefore Allah is not God but the AntiGod and Muhammad is no prophet. Following is a very small sample of further Quranic depravity.

    TORTURE

    Quran 22:19-22: "fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" "for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods"

    SLAVERY

    Quran 2.178: "O you who believe! retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain, the free for the free, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female, but if any remission is made to any one by his (aggrieved) brother, then prosecution (for the bloodwit) should be made according to usage, and payment should be made to him in a good manner; this is an alleviation from your Lord and a mercy; so whoever exceeds the limit after this he shall have a painful chastisement."

    You kill one of my slaves, females or free man and I'll kill one of your slaves, females or free man.

    BARBARIC CRUELTY

    Quran 5:38: "Cut off the hands of thieves, whether they are male or female, as punishment for what they have done-a deterrent from God: God is almighty and wise." 39 "But if anyone repents after his wrongdoing and makes amends, God will accept his repentance: God is most forgiving and merciful."

    EYE FOR EYE

    Quran 5:45: "And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed such as wrong-doers."

    BEHEADING

    Quran 8.12: "Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."

    There are 75 teachings of beheading in Quran.

    SLAUGHTERING

    Quran-8:67: "It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise." (Allah insisting Prophet to kill all the prisoners, and should not keep any surrendered prisoners alive until He (Prophet) occupied entire Arabia.)

    The Quran is a mine of most evil teachings human history has ever seen. Islam is out and out Evil in the Name of God™.



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  • Worst teaching from Islam
     Reply #1 - June 12, 2016, 11:31 AM

    tl;dr, stopped after the first part about sexual perversity. 

    Just to make it super clear to you about the purpose of this forum.  This place exists to support ex-muslims, and to debate (absent hate of one group only) the issues that led to our apostasy.

    It does not exist as a place for that mind numbing belief that Islam is the only religion full of stupid hateful stuff.  I get the sense that you fall into the category of people who believe only Islam has all of that bullshit.   Roll Eyes

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Worst teaching from Islam
     Reply #2 - June 12, 2016, 01:01 PM

    The Islamic texts contain a great deal of nasty stuff and Muslims have more extremists in their ranks.

    But no religion is all bad nor all good.

    If one looks at the texts only, the Old Testament is the most violent.

    But most Christians & Jews don't take it literally.

    Muslims have got a very long way to go in order change and reform.

    But to claim Islam is all evil is simply ignorant.
  • Worst teaching from Islam
     Reply #3 - June 12, 2016, 01:11 PM


    Verse 9:111 –  "Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph."

    Quran 9:5  "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

    Quran 9:29: "Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low."

    Quran 5:32-33:  In order to portray Islam as a wonderful religion, Muslim taqiyah tacticians, including President Obama, will always quote the verse 5:32, which says, "We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind."

     Verse 5.32:  "whosoever killeth a human being, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind."

     Verse 5:33 : "The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;"
     
    Quran 65:4: "And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed divorce period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death]. And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens) (give birth) and whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make his matter easy for him."

    Verse 33.50: "O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those [slaves] whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her – specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful".
      
    Quran 4:34: "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

      Quran 8:41: "And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah, - and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer, - if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing, - the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things."

    Quran 24:2 says: "The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication, -- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by God, if ye believe in God and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment."

    Quran 22:19-22: "fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" "for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods"
     
    Quran 2.178: "O you who believe! retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain, the free for the free, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female, but if any remission is made to any one by his (aggrieved) brother, then prosecution (for the bloodwit) should be made according to usage, and payment should be made to him in a good manner; this is an alleviation from your Lord and a mercy; so whoever exceeds the limit after this he shall have a painful chastisement."

    Quran 5:38-39: "Cut off the hands of thieves, whether they are male or female, as punishment for what they have done-a deterrent from God: God is almighty and wise."  "But if anyone repents after his wrongdoing and makes amends, God will accept his repentance: God is most forgiving and merciful."

    Quran 5:45: "And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed such as wrong-doers."
     
    Quran 8.12: "Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."

    Quran-8:67: "It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise."  
     .

      Hello  Fasahathasan  welcome to the forum ,  I can assure all those verses you quoted in your post  were already there in the faiths that were there before Islam..  except they are translated in to Arabic.,  So sometimes the translation gets screwed up., Frankly speaking there is absolutely  NOTHING NEW in Quran .

    Out of those 114 chapters and some 6300 verses the only thing that is new in Quran is one statement and that is
    Quote
    "Jesus Christ is NOT some son of god but a prophet/messenger of allah/god.."

    Most of Quran is copy pasted stories of OT and NT  along with faith reinforcement statements  for the new converters  through what people call as  love or fear..  

    fear of hell and love/sex of  houris/raisins ..honey filled swimming pools in heaven that is all what is there in Quran.  

    And I  NEED TO EDIT YOUR POST AND SHOW YOU HOW TO READ QURAN..

    damn it took lot of my time to clean up your post Fasahathasan., Please continue   to read and write and I will answer your angry words that you make taking those verses...   It appears it is the first time that you are reading Quran and that too reading few selective verses..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Worst teaching from Islam
     Reply #4 - June 12, 2016, 02:27 PM

    Quote
    Out of those 114 chapters and some 6300 verses the only thing that is new in Quran is one statement and that is
    Quote
    "Jesus Christ is NOT some son of god but a prophet/messenger of allah/god.."


    Yeez, I do believe even that was not a novel idea, unless you mean just what's in the canonized NT.  
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontrinitarianism
    NonTrinitarian beliefs:-
    Quote
    The Encyclopædia Britannica states, "To some Christians the doctrine of the Trinity appeared inconsistent with the unity of God....They therefore denied it, and accepted Jesus Christ, not as incarnate God, but as God's highest creature by Whom all else was created....[this] view in the early Church long contended with the orthodox doctrine."[8] Although the nontrinitarian view eventually disappeared in the early Church and the Trinitarian view became an orthodox doctrine of modern Christianity, variations of the nontrinitarian view are still held by a small number of Christian groups and denominations.
    Various views exist regarding the relationships between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
    Those who believe that Jesus is not God, nor absolutely equal to God, but was either God's subordinate Son, a messenger from God, or prophet, or the perfect created human.
    Adoptionism (2nd century A.D.) holds that Jesus became divine at his baptism (sometimes associated with the Gospel of Mark) or at his resurrection (sometimes associated with Saint Paul and Shepherd of Hermas).
    Arianism – Arius (AD c. 250 or 256–336) believed that the pre-existent Son of God was directly created by the Father, that he was subordinate to God the Father. Arius' position was that the Son was brought forth as the very first of God's creations, and that the Father later created all things through the Son. Arius taught that in the creation of the universe, the Father was the ultimate Creator, supplying all the materials, directing the design, while the Son worked the materials, making all things at the bidding and in the service of the Father, by which "through [Christ] all things came into existence". Arianism became the dominant view in some regions in the time of the Roman Empire, notably the Visigoths until 589.[9]
    Psilanthropism - Ebionites (1st to 4th century AD) observed Jewish law, denied the virgin birth and regarded Jesus as merely a prophet.[10]
    Socinianism, Unitarianism,Gnostics etc etc etc[11]

    These are all pre-Islam, There were sometimes violent exchanges between these factions and the Council of Nicaea was supposed to settle this question, but it still persisted on the periphery.
    In fact what has puzzled me has been the inclusion of the virgin birth in the Quran, while denying divinity of Jesus.  Just a 'sign' of Allah's will makes no sense to me.
  • Worst teaching from Islam
     Reply #5 - June 12, 2016, 02:38 PM


    Yeez, I do believe even that was not a novel idea, unless you mean just what's in the canonized NT.   ..........

    I agree with you ., indeed there were sects in Christianity as well as Judaism  who questioned that before Islam between 1st century and 6th century  but that idea was only popularized by Islam..

    In fact that is one of the reason  why I say often  That ., THERE WAS NO MUHAMMAD OF QURAN and Quran was NOT written by Arab Qureshi Pagan folks who converted to Islam but book  was put together either by Jewish or by Christian  sect preachers  or even by Romans who lived in and around Arabia and ruled that part of the world during that time..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Worst teaching from Islam
     Reply #6 - June 12, 2016, 03:19 PM

    I get what you mean.
  • Worst teaching from Islam
     Reply #7 - June 12, 2016, 03:38 PM

    I get what you mean.

     well very few people understand what i write ..lol.. that is not a big deal.,.,  what is more important  is  answering and explaining the opening post of  Fasahathasan and his/her  extraction of Quran verses to get this meaning
    Most evil teaching # 1: Islam's paradise of evil, demented, depraved sexual perversity .,Verse 9:111 – Muslim's passport to paradise

    Most evil teaching # 2: Kill the infidels wherever you find them., Quran 9:5 (the infamous verse of the sword inciting mass murder):  Verse 9:5 teaches Muslims to commit mass-murder.

    Most evil teaching # 3: Extortion verse: .,  Quran 9:29:

    Most evil teaching # 4: Verse of barbaric cruelty., Quran 5:32-33
    Quote
    ....Verse 5:32 is a teaching of mass extermination and genocide. When President Barrack Obama gave his speech in Cairo, he quoted from Verse 5.32 .......

    So..puzzlelover.,  Fasahathasan put lot of on a plate., Question is that right thing to do?  If it is NOT how do we correct it., I  wish you could read those verses and tell me how you feel about them and would you come to the same conclusion as Fasahathasan??

    with best regards
    yeezevee


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Worst teaching from Islam
     Reply #8 - June 12, 2016, 03:43 PM

    If you don't believe in God then you will burn in Hell for EVER!

    That is the most destructive teaching ever. Ever.

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • Worst teaching from Islam
     Reply #9 - June 12, 2016, 03:53 PM

    If you don't believe in God then you will burn in Hell for EVER!

     

    ..what.... Well  then., let me start believing in my god  Anubis..my dog



    oh..god save me from hell fire in after life.,  
    errrrr   sorry.,   I don't give a fuck to after life., let me pray again
    "oh dog save me from hell fire  IN THIS LIFE..."

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Worst teaching from Islam
     Reply #10 - June 12, 2016, 06:20 PM

    A copy paste job from Jake Neuman
  • Worst teaching from Islam
     Reply #11 - June 12, 2016, 07:45 PM

    ..what.... Well  then., let me start believing in my god  Anubis..my dog



    oh..god save me from hell fire in after life.,  
    errrrr   sorry.,   I don't give a fuck to after life., let me pray again
    "oh dog save me from hell fire  IN THIS LIFE..."


     Cheesy you tell them...all logically sound gods and soundess and bigotry or all... Cheesy

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • Worst teaching from Islam
     Reply #12 - June 12, 2016, 09:14 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_4ZgY5VOa4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HJTG6RRN4E

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTeMnATmZgE

    FILTHY HUMAN BEINGS..   so the dogs become  my god for today..

    tomorrow different god..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Worst teaching from Islam
     Reply #13 - June 13, 2016, 12:04 AM

    Hi Fasahathan.
    Welcome to this forum.   Have a customary  parrot
    It took me a while but I found your previous two posts on the 'Are you an ex muslim?' thread:-
    Quote

    Replies 441 and 442.

    It is obvious that you have had a tough time leaving Islam that you felt obliged to post the long litany of ills of islam. 
    The CEMB forum is for ex Muslims and accepts criticism of Islam but rejects blanket condemnation of muslims. Unfortunately you copied and pasted from a well known rightwing allied site which tends to air anti-muslim views.   Since you are new, you may experience some pushback.  I kind of got a slap on the wrist too a while back.  Besides every now and then trolls start posting hoping to rile up members.

    Apart from that,  try to marshall you points and have each posts address a few points at a time,so that the discussion can be better focused.

    I am sure you will enjoy the board if you hang around, be sincere and get to know the folks here.

    About me, I am a non Muslim, but am an athiest.   I'm no expert on the Quran.   I  would normally leave it to the ex Muslims to reply, but am responding to Yeezevee's challenge.  I hope you will take this post in the spirit it is made and that you will continue to contribute and post.  Peace!
  • Worst teaching from Islam
     Reply #14 - June 13, 2016, 01:02 AM

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    well very few people understand what i write ..lol.. that is not a big deal.,.


    Yeez. I should have qualified it with an "I think"...  Don't worry your status as Board Sphinx is untouchable,  most of the time I think you are quite successful in being inscrutable.  Thats why I enjoy them.  Smiley

    I addressed Fasahathasan directly about his OP.
  • Worst teaching from Islam
     Reply #15 - June 13, 2016, 07:36 AM

    Hi Fasahathan.
    Welcome to this forum.   Have a customary  parrot
    It took me a while but I found your previous two posts on the 'Are you an ex muslim?' thread:-Replies 441 and 442.

    It is obvious that you have had a tough time leaving Islam that you felt obliged to post the long litany of ills of islam. 
    The CEMB forum is for ex Muslims and accepts criticism of Islam but rejects blanket condemnation of muslims. Unfortunately you copied and pasted from a well known rightwing allied site which tends to air anti-muslim views.   Since you are new, you may experience some pushback.  I kind of got a slap on the wrist too a while back.  Besides every now and then trolls start posting hoping to rile up members.

    Apart from that,  try to marshall you points and have each posts address a few points at a time,so that the discussion can be better focused.

    I am sure you will enjoy the board if you hang around, be sincere and get to know the folks here.



    Fair enough puzzlelover.  That was decent of you to explore what was motivating the anger, and a great reminder to me to be more patient with new members and give them a chance.  Smiley




    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Worst teaching from Islam
     Reply #16 - June 13, 2016, 12:32 PM

    Sorry Berbs, it wasn't aimed at you personally:)  But the way you took it proves what a great person you are.  We can all benefit from a little more patience in our lives, self included. 





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