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  • Carbon dating suggests ‘world’s oldest’ Koran could be older than the Prophet
     OP - September 01, 2015, 03:52 AM

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    Scholars believe a copy of the Koran held in England may be even older than the Prophet Muhammad.

    Carbon dating of a fragment from a Koran stored at a Birmingham library suggests that the book was produced between 568 and 645 A.D., said scientists at the University of Oxford, but Islamic scholars generally believe Muhammad lived between 570 and 632 A.D.

    If the carbon dating is accurate, the Koran was made before the first formal text was assembled on orders from the caliph Uthman in 653 — and it could date from Muhammad’s childhood or even before his birth, reported The Times of London.

    That’s comparable to the discovery of gospel sayings dating from Jesus Christ’s infancy, academics say.

    “According to Muslim tradition, the Prophet Muhammad received the revelations that form the Qur’an, the scripture of Islam, between the years AD 610 and 632, the year of his death,” explained Professor David Thomas, Professor of Christianity and Islam and Nadir Dinshaw Professor of Interreligious Relations at the University of Birmingham.

    “At this time, the divine message was not compiled into the book form in which it appears today. Instead, the revelations were preserved in ‘the memories of men.’ Parts of it had also been written down on parchment, stone, palm leaves and the shoulder blades of camels,” Thomas said. “Caliph Abu Bakr, the first leader of the Muslim community after Muhammad, ordered the collection of all Qur’anic material in the form of a book. The final, authoritative written form was completed and fixed under the direction of the third leader, Caliph Uthman, in about AD 650.”

    Muslim scholars strongly dispute the findings, which contradict most accounts of the prophet’s life, but some historians say evidence was mounting that traditional accounts of Islam’s origins are unreliable.
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    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/faith/article4542663.ece

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  • Carbon dating suggests ?world?s oldest? Koran could be older than the Prophet
     Reply #1 - September 01, 2015, 04:03 AM

    Coolios.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Carbon dating suggests ?world?s oldest? Koran could be older than the Prophet
     Reply #2 - September 01, 2015, 09:46 AM

    This was posted elsewhere. I think on the Qur'anic studies thread.
  • Carbon dating suggests ‘world’s oldest’ Koran could be older than the Prophet
     Reply #3 - September 01, 2015, 10:30 AM


    That link hits the Murdoch paywall. Follow this one to get round it: https://mobile.twitter.com/holland_tom/status/638394876380508160
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