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  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #390 - October 14, 2015, 12:39 PM

    What "pus" are you talking Quod? where from ? where did you get that?  You guys can not Insult Islam without proper references from Hadith or Quran..


    The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “It is not right for any human being to prostrate to another; if it were right for one human being to prostrate to another, I would have commanded women to prostrate to their husbands because of the great rights that they have over them. By the One in Whose hand is my soul, if a man were covered from head to foot with weeping sores oozing pus, and his wife were to come to him and lick his sores (to clean them), this would not fulfil the rights he has over her.’” (Reported by Imaam Ahmad, 12153; Saheeh al-Jaami’, 7725).

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #391 - October 14, 2015, 02:21 PM

    good  Quod gooood... let me add right linkable  reference to that..

    Reference: (Reported by Imaam Ahmad, 12153; Saheeh al-Jaami’, 7725)...
    General Supervisor: Shaykh Muhammad Saalih al-Munajjid

    "The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “It is not right for any human being to prostrate to another; if it were right for one human being to prostrate to another, I would have commanded women to prostrate to their husbands because of the great rights that they have over them. By the One in Whose hand is my soul, if a man were covered from head to foot with weeping sores oozing pus, and his wife were to come to him and lick his sores (to clean them), this would not fulfil the rights he has over her.’”

    Holy Shit.. Holy cow.. holy god.. holy allah doll...  Ous..ous...Pus......pus...pus everywhere....


    well from now onwards..I am going to remove fucking god from my vocabulary .. written as well as spoken....

    So Quod  the word ..."god is gone "...and will be replaced by ...

    Oh mother of Moses
    Oh mother of Jesus
    Oh Mother of Muhammad


    for abrahamic religions and for pagans.. I will use their god mothers as representative their god  .. such as for hindus..

    Oh Mother of Kishan
    Oh mother of rama
    ..

    yadi..yadi.. yada..

    So Quod forgive me if I offend people because  "god is gone" from my vocabulary

    with best wishes
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #392 - October 14, 2015, 02:26 PM

    I will issue a royal pardon.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #393 - October 14, 2015, 02:29 PM

    I will issue a royal pardon.

     Quod I am drinking beer.. and YOU ARE DUMBO...  your response is pathetic....

    You are supposed to issue "a royal WTF" or at least say WTF...

    See you tomorrow...  and I miss her .. miss reading her very much

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #394 - October 14, 2015, 02:34 PM

    I also miss her. Cry

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #395 - November 09, 2015, 10:56 AM

    What happened to Ishina?
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #396 - November 15, 2015, 02:47 PM

    Saudi Court Rejects Divorce Petition of 8 Year Old

    A Saudi court has rejected a plea to divorce an eight-year-old girl married off by her father to a man who is 58, saying the case should wait until the girl reaches puberty, a lawyer involved told newswire AFP.

    "The judge has dismissed the plea [filed by the mother] because she does not have the right to file such a case, and ordered that the plea should be filed by the girl herself when she reaches puberty," lawyer Abdullah Jtili told AFP in a telephone interview after Saturday's court decision.

    The divorce plea was filed in August by the girl's divorced mother with a court at Unayzah, 220 km north of Riyadh just after the marriage contract was signed by the father and the groom.

    http://www.arabianbusiness.com/541658-saudi-court-rejects-divorcing-8-year-old-girl

    So the father has the right to contract a marriage on her behalf, but the mother has no right to petition for divorce?  What a fucked up law.   Roll Eyes


    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #397 - November 15, 2015, 02:50 PM

    What happened to Ishina?


    Stopped posting for some reason.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #398 - November 15, 2015, 04:32 PM

    Saudi Court Rejects Divorce Petition of 8 Year Old



    "What a fucked up law"

    Lol, as a former Muslim who studied this shit, this is not exactly news. I'm not surprised. I just feel sad for the little kid.

    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #399 - November 15, 2015, 04:43 PM

    Oh yeah, this kind of thing actually happens. It's not just theoretical. Thanks for the reminder of what we're up against.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #400 - November 15, 2015, 04:59 PM

    Saudi Court Rejects Divorce Petition of 8 Year Old



    I saw that a while back, very notorious case. But then again this is a country that gave a sheikh who raped and killed his 3 year old daughter a slap on the wrist. Women and girls in Saudi are not people.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #401 - November 15, 2015, 08:32 PM

    Indeed they are not. Interestingly enough, once I saw an article shared on LiveJournal about how Saudi women are infinitudes, and some Muslim converts (living in America) got indignant about that.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #402 - November 15, 2015, 10:00 PM

    Perhaps you meant to say infantilized? This can occur with any dependent relationship.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #403 - November 17, 2015, 01:01 AM

    Yes; stupid spell check!
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #404 - November 19, 2015, 01:04 AM

    Indeed they are not. Interestingly enough, once I saw an article shared on LiveJournal about how Saudi women are infinitudes, and some Muslim converts (living in America) got indignant about that.


    You know another thing I find very strange? All this obsession with protecting women outside of the home (be covered in black from head to toe and only leave the home when it is necessary) but there is not protection inside of the home. You are at the mercy of your husband/father/brother who can beat you black and blue without facing any sort of repurcussions.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #405 - November 19, 2015, 01:52 AM



















    Any translation for this?


    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #406 - November 19, 2015, 09:01 AM

    The rules of lawful hijab:
    1) To be opaque and does not show what is underneath it.
    2) To be loose, not tight
    3) To cover the whole body
    4) To not be popular clothes/famous brands
    5) To not look similar to the clothes of men and non-believing women
    6) To not be decorative clothing which attracts stares
    7) To not be fragranced with perfume

    Is that an ISIS poster?
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #407 - November 19, 2015, 09:08 AM


    4) To not be popular clothes/famous brands


    I don't understand this one. My parents taught this--but with them, I think it was more "we're too broke for this, but we'll tell you it's a religious principle, just to fuck with you." But then again, there was always a double standard: if it was what they wanted, God approved, but if it was what I wanted, God hated it.

    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I have a sonic screwdriver, a tricorder, and a Type 2 phaser.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #408 - November 19, 2015, 09:35 AM

    Quote
    I don't understand this one. My parents taught this--but with them, I think it was more "we're too broke for this, but we'll tell you it's a religious principle, just to fuck with you." But then again, there was always a double standard: if it was what they wanted, God approved, but if it was what I wanted, God hated it.


    True, it makes no sense at all. Seems as though they want to create as much misery as they possibly can.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #409 - November 19, 2015, 09:43 AM

    The rules of lawful hijab:
    1) To be opaque and does not show what is underneath it.
    2) To be loose, not tight
    3) To cover the whole body
    4) To not be popular clothes/famous brands
    5) To not look similar to the clothes of men and non-believing women
    6) To not be decorative clothing which attracts stares
    7) To not be fragranced with perfume

    Is that an ISIS poster?

    let me rewrite that right from horse mouth with link..

    Quote
    Responsibility of Hijab for Man and Woman

    Let us scrutinize the required important matters for both sexes in order to specify the difference in responsibility between them concerning this framework of Islamic hijab.
    Both man and woman are responsible according to the following verse of the Holy Qur'an:

    Quote
    "Say to the believing men that they cast dawn their looks and guard their private parts; that is purer for them; surely Allah is Aware of what they do. And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts and not display their ornaments except what appears there of, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms, and not display their or name except to their husbands..." (Holy Qur’an, 24:30-31).

    The great jurisprudents (fuqaha) have cited explanations for these edicts:

    A. A woman must cover her body and hair from the sight of non-mahram man.

    B. It is unlawful for a man to look at the body and hair of a non-mahram woman with the exception of her face and hands. It is also unlawful for a man to look her hair and this verdict is applied on a woman concerning looking at men other than her father, son, uncle, grandfather , brother and those related to them.

    C. It is forbidden for a man to look at the details of the face of a non-mahram women, or her hands with sexual desire and vice versa.

    D. It is lawful for a man who wants to marry a woman to look at her in order to be acquainted with her physical qualities and vice versa.

    E. It is lawful for both a man and woman to look at the body of their mahrams (except for the genital region) so long as it is not with sexual desire, but to look with sexual desire, is forbidden (haram) whether they are mahram or not.

    F. It is obligatory for a woman to cover her body and hair from the sight of a non-mahram men (i.e., those with whom she is legally allowed to marry).

    G. It is unlawful for a man to be alone with a non-mahram woman in a place where nobody else can enter if they fear that they may commit haram acts; but there is no objection for a man to be alone with a non-mahram woman when other are not prohibited from entering the place, even if the other are a mature rational child or in the state of security from committing corruption.

    H. It is unlawful for a non-mahram man to touch a non-mahram woman nor a non-mahram woman may touch a non-mahram man such as shaking hands and so forth.

    I. If there is a necessity for a man to touch a woman, and vice versa, such as medical cure or saving a drowning person, and there is no a female doctor for the woman or a male doctor for man, it is lawful for both sides to touch or look at the other side for tests, cure or the like.

    J. It is lawful for non-mahram men to hear the voice of non-mahram women on condition that hearing should not be with sexual desire or as a cause for committing haram acts and it is permitted for a woman to make her voice heard through discourse or address by a non-mahram man on condition that her voice should not mislead or seduce listeners, because it is haram for a woman to talk to men in an excited and agitating manner.

    K. It is recommended for a woman to keep her beauty and elegance for her husband because attractiveness and beauty represent an important side in the life of woman and an essential source among the sources of the happiness of matrimonial life.

    L. It is forbidden for a woman to imitate men (by dress, actions or behavior) and vice versa.

    M. It is forbidden for a woman to perfume herself and go outside her home, i.e. it is forbidden that her perfume is noticed by non-mahram men while passing among them or mixing with them.

    If we examine carefully these legal responsibilities which fall under the frame of Islamic hijab, we will find that both men and women share the task of responsibility regarding this rule, with the specification concerning women in covering their body. This shows strongly that Islam is aspires to establish clean relations between the two sexes; spread purity and dignity among people; and safeguard the society with healthy relations. It is not among its intentions to disgrace a woman's dignity among people or prevent her from performing her role in life as it is clear through the above mentioned laws concerning Islamic hijab.

    If we want to judge strictly the matter of covering woman's body and we have said it is correct to say that both men and women hold the same task in the general framework of Islamic hijab, the question comes: Why a woman alone bear the burden of covering her body and without man to do so?

    The fact, which no fair-minded person can doubt, is that the reason for the specification of covering a woman's body alone relates to her sentimental and physical qualities. Because the temptation side of woman is much stronger than a man; she has the competent side for sensibility; and she has instinctive tendencies for showing herself off. Thus, ornaments and beautification are among her first specifications. If they are unrestricted, she may cause, knowingly or unknowingly, and innocent person to commit a haram act, thought or deed.

    This natural characteristic of woman and which makes her more able to attract, tempt and fascinate man towards herself, is the main reason Islam tackles this point through hijab. Therefore, it is not normal to ask a man to cover his body like her; whereas man in general does not possess these specific characteristics, nor is he naturally prone to decorate and beautify himself in order to draw attention of woman. Still, Islam does require a man to dress in an appropriate manner so as not to expose unnecessary parts of his body.

    On the subject of attraction, two sure things exists, one in a woman and one in a man. That which exists within a woman is the desire to show herself off, it is a part of her nature. That which exists in a man is an inclination towards looking, not just looking but flirting and receiving pleasure from it. Both of these things exist. Will Durant says that there is nothing in the world more firm and more persevering than a man's desire to look at a woman.

    It is also clear that men and women are sexually stimulated in different ways. A woman, being a naturally sensitive and tender-hearted creature, requires touching and tactile movements in order to stimulate her. A man, on the other hand, is a much coarser creature, tough and virile with a strong imagination. He can be stimulated by a mere look. A woman covers herself to keep from showing off her body and the man cannot see anything which will stimulate him sexually. How clever Islam is to adopt hijab in society! So it completely conforms with the innate natures of woman!

    In accordance with this reality of attraction, we see that Islam also forbids acts such as sodomy among men and lesbianism among women because each of the two decrees has its own subject and background like other legal decrees which rely on certain backgrounds necessary for them.
    These are the true centres which addresses in order to build this positive edict; the blessed Islamic hijab.


    you take few words from Quran and write all sorts of nonsense... MOCK THE FOOLS AD MOVE ON..

    http://www.islamawareness.net/Hijab/Niqab/rulings.html

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #410 - November 19, 2015, 09:56 AM

    Yeah, I don't know where they get all of these various interpretations from when the verse was a few words.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #411 - November 19, 2015, 07:03 PM

    Is that an ISIS poster?


    Dunno, might be Saudi or some other place. Why is dressing like a nightmare monster from a fairytale modest? Huh?

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #412 - November 19, 2015, 07:24 PM

    Hmmm...that's extreme even for Saudi so I can only really think of ISIS, as the Taliban would not have it written in Arabic.

    Bear in mind as well that this is all in the heat of the desert. This is the worst sort of dress code for such an environment.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #413 - November 19, 2015, 07:31 PM

    I have heard women who tried it to see what it was like saying they were sweating in places they didn't know they had. Grin

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #414 - November 19, 2015, 07:40 PM

    If a woman wants to then she would have taken the heat into account so I really couldn't care less but there are few things which I find more repressive than enforced dress codes for all times. Especially when they are this uncomfortable (I have tried it as well and hated it).
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #415 - November 19, 2015, 08:39 PM

    Would it work for vampires?

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #416 - November 19, 2015, 11:56 PM

    Not really; it absorbs the sunlight worse than most items of clothing.
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #417 - November 20, 2015, 01:49 AM

    * Vampires take note.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #418 - November 28, 2015, 11:02 AM

    So, according to Surat Al-Ahzab Muhammad used prophethood to give himself special privileges to fuck any woman he wanted. Found a thread about this on Ummah.com and like the OP I am disgusted.

    O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful. (Qur'an 33:50)
  • Blatant misogyny in Islam is what is making me question it.
     Reply #419 - November 28, 2015, 11:40 AM

    I never found the complete covering a problem in  warm/hot environment. The only torture was the niqab, because it was tight around your head (the headaches were constant, more of less, even with the more comfortable velcro types), sweaty and hindered you from breathing normally. I got rashes from it, but other than that it was bearable. Only when it rained was the long abaya a pest. Until I got a pair of good rain boots and didn't have a problem anymore with my soaked dragging abaya Smiley

    BTW, it took me over a year to get used to the "air" around me. Like literally, the wind blowing and cool air around my neck, head and face was so alien to me that I was freezing almost all the time and felt a strange sense of "strangeness". Like something was missing, I was naked, something didn't feel right...

    I even miss my flowy hijab and abaya.

    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
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