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     Reply #90 - August 28, 2016, 05:32 PM
    Quote from: Qtian on August 28, 2016, 03:33 PM
    Too fucking busy, too busy fucking.


    Hey, that's Ishina's signature!
    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #91 - August 28, 2016, 05:37 PM
    Really?

    It's from a Drake song lol.
    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #92 - August 28, 2016, 06:41 PM
    Oh well, if that were true he wouldn't have time to make songs with more repetitions then a merry-go-round.
    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #93 - August 28, 2016, 07:43 PM
    I'm pretty sure that Drake doesn't find it hard to get it in though. Lol.
    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #94 - August 28, 2016, 08:12 PM
    I'm just hatin' coz I is well jell.

    It ain't no fun if the homies can't get....
    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #95 - August 28, 2016, 08:17 PM
    Just sit down and pray the lust away.
    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #96 - September 01, 2016, 12:31 PM
    Quote from: First question.
    I get your concerns- but social sciences tend to use different types of analysis such as multivariate regression. Significance testing isn't the be all and end all for them.

    In my experience, social scientists, mainly economists, have a much stronger grasp of statistics than the average "hard" scientist.

    Also, I wonder why you trust p-values in a contrived environment, but not a realistic one?

    The fact of the matter is that the relationship between the p-value and significance level, and their subsequent interaction, is arbitrary. If you're to reject the efficacy of p-values in social science, I think it's inconsistent if you don't reject them in the hard sciences, too.

    Overall, p-values aren't bad at all. It's just unfortunate that many scientists have no clue what they're talking about when using them. They're not magical and they're not a valid scapegoat. They should be used with caution.

    There are so many statistical tools available to use. Is it time for scientists to forget rote memorisation tactics, stop thinking that statistics is an offshoot of mathematics, and actually try learning real stats?



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  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #97 - September 01, 2016, 12:32 PM
    Quote from:  Second question for yeez
    I also think that you're inadvertently overestimating the intellectual honesty of the average "hard" scientist, and downplaying the rigour of the "softer" ones?

    Truth inflation occurs in all sciences, and many researchers only submit positive results. P-hacking in biology is a perfect example.

    Science is great but it's clearly a human activity. As such, it is subject to biases that are very real, and very human.

    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #98 - September 01, 2016, 01:16 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on September 01, 2016, 12:52 PM
       so  Qtian  you are putting that folder back on top?  was that just for me ?


     yes
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  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #99 - September 01, 2016, 05:44 PM
    Quote from: Qtian on September 01, 2016, 01:16 PM
    yes

     what.  ?  well I am busy doing tons of junk .. need to clean the desk.. fuck clean my life ..  finmad

    and on top of that .you gave a link  of dantip scientiasalon in another folder  and I am reading him.. very thoughtful guy   And I need to read carefully his Sam Harris and the Demarcation Problem and I am going to read it as critique of Sam Harris..   but let me enter in to the ring by saying.,  "you re wrong .. you are utterly wrong here "
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    ........Science is great but it's clearly a  human activity ((of a biological species )). As such, it is subject to biases that are very real, and very human.....Qtian


    Let me define science  first .,  It is the intellectual curiosity and practical activity  of a species with in its intelligence that makes the species to study  systematically   to define and understand the  structure, behavior of the physical, chemical and and natural world through its observation and experiment.  Again it is limited to its level of experience and intelligence ..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G2gmcr2egU
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  • Re: important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #100 - September 01, 2016, 05:53 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on September 01, 2016, 05:44 PM
    what.  ?  well I am busy doing tons of junk .. need to clean the desk.. fuck clean my life ..  finmad

    and on top of that .you gave a link  of dantip scientiasalon in another folder  and I am reading him.. very thoughtful guy   And I need to read carefully his Sam Harris and the Demarcation Problem and I am going to read it as critique of Sam Harris..   but let me enter in to the ring by saying.,  "you re right.. you are utterly right here "



    Yeah, because dolphins are well known for their work on quantum electrodynamics.

    Anyway, here's some further reading material:

    http://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002106


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  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #101 - September 01, 2016, 10:05 PM
    Quote from: Qtian on September 01, 2016, 05:53 PM
    because dolphins  ...and..... quantum electrodynamics.

    indeed    their Echolocation  is a perfect example of that.,  
    Quote
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWSLn1dggoU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc2EZjG0b8U

    And   If you are not completely confused by quantum mechanics, you do not understand it. ... Richard Feynman -

    Quote
    Anyway, here's some further reading material:

    http://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002106


    that is a good publication Qtian
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #102 - September 01, 2016, 10:10 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on September 01, 2016, 10:05 PM
    indeed    their Echolocation  is a perfect example of that.,


    You kinda completely missed the point I was making.

    But it's ok, you're you.
    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #103 - September 01, 2016, 11:31 PM
    Quote from: Qtian on September 01, 2016, 10:10 PM
    You kinda completely missed the point I was making.

    But it's ok, you're you.

     Cheesy  yes  "I am  me and me alone "   Qtian., and it is possible i missed your point .. that is not new to me,  but as long as i don't miss your sarcasm between the points  I should be all right..    so please read this link and  give me your constructive critique

    https://scientiasalon.wordpress.com/2015/06/04/sam-harris-and-the-demarcation-problem/
     
    It is kind of statistical observation with very little experimental data  on faith controlled/modified  human psychology ..  and what is your opinion on this article from scientific american.com??
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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #104 - September 02, 2016, 05:35 PM
    First article - Overall, good. To treat morality as something that can be determined by science would be to confuse moral ontology with moral epistemology. Formally, this would be a category error.

    As an extremely astute commenter pointed out:

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    It seems that moral reasoning has features similar to mathematics. It is driven by a desire to minimise contradiction and dissonance between intuition and implication. And we can't have science without certain ethical minima. Science is a social institution. If its participants don't behave, it falls apart. Maybe moral theory isn't part of science proper, but it certainly has much closer adjacency and relevance than theology.



    Second article- don't really care tbh.

    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #105 - September 02, 2016, 05:54 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on September 01, 2016, 11:31 PM
    It is kind of statistical observation with very little experimental data  on faith controlled/modified  human psychology .. 


    I don't follow. Please clarify?
    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #106 - September 04, 2016, 02:19 PM
    Quote from: Qtian on September 02, 2016, 05:35 PM
    ........To treat morality as something that can be determined by science would be to confuse moral ontology with moral epistemology. Formally, this would be a category error.


    well we need to define those two words  PROPERLY to go any further Qtian..  Sounds like that Dr. Craig  guy words.. confusing the hell out of  readers...
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #107 - September 04, 2016, 02:22 PM
    No, they are proper philosophical concepts. They are not apologist terms. If the layman is confused then that's his problem. He either works to diminish the confusion or he stays confused. This is true of all fields.

    The terms are well defined in the literature.

    Craig does use them, and he does use them correctly.
    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #108 - September 04, 2016, 03:05 PM
    Quote from: Qtian on September 04, 2016, 02:22 PM
    No, they are proper philosophical concepts. They are not apologist terms. If the layman is confused then that's his problem. He either works to diminish the confusion or he stays confused. This is true of all fields.

    The terms are well defined in the literature.

    Craig does use them, and he does use them correctly.

    well for me defining those two words is a problem Qtian .,  I question his basic argument that  " that God is moral authority and God’s commands constitute our moral duties."

     when you have no proof of any religious sayings..so-called scriptures are word of some god.,  then the  God's moral authority  and   God’s commands of Human   moral duties doesn't arise...

    I say Morality is nothing to do with god ..but it is all to do with the species .. here it happened  to be human species  that is way more intelligent and brilliant than any other species we know

     
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #109 - September 04, 2016, 03:11 PM
    Yeah, you still don't get what I'm saying.

    I'm really sorry yeez but I really cba. I don't see any point in this discussion with you. I'm not going to learn anything and I don't have the patience to explain things anymore.

    Above all, I just don't care about these discussions anymore. I just can't be bothered. I'm sorry man.

    Since you still do, responding to arguments grounded in moral ontology with arguments from epistemology is a category mistake. The ontological status of these moral values and duties says nothing about how we came to get them.

    This is how you respond to Craig et al. Watch this and then maybe you'll have an understanding of the different metaethical issues at play.

    https://youtu.be/yH5B5UZvuhw


    I'm not gonna reply to anything non statistics related on this thread now. I need to stop derailing my own threads.
    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #110 - September 04, 2016, 03:38 PM
    Statisticians Found One Thing They Can Agree On: It’s Time To Stop Misusing P-Values

    Quote from: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/statisticians-found-one-thing-they-can-agree-on-its-time-to-stop-misusing-p-values/?ex_cid=538fb
    (...) It may sound crazy to get indignant over a scientific term that few lay people have even heard of, but the consequences matter. The misuse of the p-value can drive bad science (there was no disagreement over that), and the consensus project was spurred by a growing worry that in some scientific fields, p-values have become a litmus test for deciding which studies are worthy of publication. As a result, research that produces p-values that surpass an arbitrary threshold are more likely to be published, while studies with greater or equal scientific importance may remain in the file drawer, unseen by the scientific community.

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  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #111 - November 20, 2016, 07:56 PM
    Non-normal dataset sues statistician over discrimination.

    http://pnis.co/scinews/vol3/non_normal_dataset.html

    Lmao
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  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #112 - November 21, 2016, 12:55 AM
    That's math joke level funny.  cool2
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


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  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #113 - November 21, 2016, 02:33 AM
    How long have you had that avatar for?
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  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #114 - November 21, 2016, 04:18 AM
    Quite a while. I don't really change avatars that often. Why do you ask?
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #115 - November 21, 2016, 09:01 PM
    Cos it looks weird
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  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #116 - November 21, 2016, 09:27 PM
    You didn't see my first avatar then. Lol.

    I just don't give a fuck. Sorry.
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #117 - November 21, 2016, 09:30 PM
    Was it that little blonde thing, or am I just making shit up?
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  • important resource for people who work in the laboratories such as lua
     Reply #118 - November 21, 2016, 11:36 PM
    No, my first avatar was a low res sprite of a cerebrate from the game starcraft: brood war which came out in the late 90s. So yeah, it was pretty awesome, but at the same time quite weird looking.
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

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