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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #30 - July 27, 2015, 01:13 PM
    Quote from: zeca on July 27, 2015, 01:11 PM
    https://mobile.twitter.com/wellsla/status/625648977032167424

    Wow:
    MT @nblaser18
    Of 851 detained in #Turkey's anti-terror raids,627 are #HDP members:
    395 in custody
    19 arrested
    213released
    -HDP's Kürkçü

    all those 19 must be Kurds
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #31 - July 27, 2015, 02:58 PM
    ^That's quite likely although the HDP has started to widen its support base beyond the Kurds - which may be partly why it's seen as a threat.
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #32 - July 27, 2015, 05:43 PM

    Günay Özarslan

    Clashes in Gazi district of Istanbul: http://isyandan.org/english/gazi-district-police-first-executed-then-attacked-the-funeral/
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #33 - July 27, 2015, 06:20 PM
    Quote from: zeca on July 27, 2015, 05:43 PM
    (Clicky for piccy!)
    Günay Özarslan

    Clashes in Gazi district of Istanbul: http://isyandan.org/english/gazi-district-police-first-executed-then-attacked-the-funeral/



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    ..........After Suruç Massacre, as a part of the so called ISIS operation launched by the state on 24th of July, mostly socialists, leftist dissidents are detained. During the operation 1050 people were taken into custody of which only 22 were charged of being related to ISIS. While Turkish State uses ISIS as an excuse to legitimize its war strategy internationally; inside the country, it uses terror threat card to target leftist organizations and the Kurdish movement. Within the scope of this operation one of the places the police has raided was Günay Özarslan’s house.

    Police stated that Günay Özarslan was shot as result of a clash, however in a press statement issued for TAYAD (Solidarity Association For Families of Prisoners)  one of the lawyers of Halkın Hukuk Bürosu (Law Office of the People) Aycan Çiçek said that 15 bullets were found in Özarslan’s body, despite the fact that there were no signs of a clash taking place in her house. Çicek also remarked that the delivery of her body to the family and the transmission of the funeral to Gazi had been precluded by the security forces..........


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMHY_GqSVhM

    Hu!   you need 15 bullets to kill woman and that is face of women  ISIS??  that is what happens when Islamized rascal head the government in Muslim countries  and use the state power to suppress freedom of expression..

    TURKEY BRAIN DEAD religious head ruling the country think  that these people you down here are that Islamic state Idiots

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgizTQV1jjk

    I don't see see any beard and burkhas in that protest..   That is the results of Islamic mindset  with a pinch of animal turkey patriotism  that scoundrels in the present turkey government think those folks are from ISIS/IS whatever
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #34 - July 27, 2015, 07:39 PM
    Turkish court approves blocking of Kurdish websites: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-court-approves-blocking-of-kurdish-websites.aspx?pageID=238&nID=86006&NewsCatID=339
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #35 - July 28, 2015, 10:37 AM
    More on the move against the HDP: https://mobile.twitter.com/oemoral
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #36 - July 28, 2015, 10:44 AM
    Vice News report: https://news.vice.com/article/turkey-accused-of-shelling-syrian-kurds-while-fatal-clashes-break-out-in-istanbul?
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #37 - July 28, 2015, 02:48 PM
    NATO backs Turkish government: http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_121926.htm

    Rudaw video - US backs Turkey in fighting Kurdish rebels: http://rudaw.net/NewsDetails.aspx?pageid=147285

    Erdogan sees chance to battle Kurds: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/27/us-mideast-crisis-turkey-erdogan-idUSKCN0Q120C20150727
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #38 - July 28, 2015, 04:07 PM
    A long interview with HDP co-chair Selahattin Demirtaş - important reading for understanding what is now happening:

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/Default.aspx?pageID=238&nID=86041&NewsCatID=338
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #39 - July 28, 2015, 05:06 PM
    Intro to libcom thread on the situation in Turkey. The writer narrowly escaped the Suruç bombing:

    https://libcom.org/forums/middle-east/turkey-news-27072015
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    The peace process and temporary ceasefire (declared only by Kurdish forces) seems to be broken in Turkey after the Suruc massacre. . I am opening this forum thread to report on developments related to social (ethnic) peace and conflict in Turkey and the position of state and Kurdish authorities on it. Also to follow its effects on social movements and political organisations in Turkey.

    A summary of how we come here;

    The tensions were high especially before the election in 7th June (which resulted end of one-party rule of Akp of last 13 years, and with the rise of HDP - the Kurdish and leftists's party- above the electoral threshold. ) The government and especially the president Tayyip Erdogan was showing signs of stepping back from negotiations. There were even occasions of killed Kurdish guerrillas or attacks of cops over kurdish civilians and arrests in various events or demonstrations. Kurdish movement was dedicatedly not replying back with violence.

    However after the elections the government started to use a much more aggressive discourse that reminded of the civil war times. In response KCK allowed attacks of guerrillas in spirit of self-defence agains the ecological destruction of Kurdistan (like, forest fires and dams, which according to kurdish sources mainly made to prevent mobilization of Kurdish guerrillas and remove the population and culture of kurdish people from rural places in Kurdistan)

    Lastly after the Suruc Massacre, (and some retaliation attack by kurdish forces (HPG) against cops associated by IS and killing of one army officer) government acted fast and declared a campaign against terrorism and changed its foreign policy. Externally they started to support the coalition against IS. However they also started to bombing Quandil and other PKK camps. killing currently 4 guerrillas and injuring many civilians and guerrillas. The people in camps are supported by many kurds in turkey and seen as their legitimate self-defense force versus oppressors of Kurdish nation.

    Also -maybe more tragically- AKP government started an operation on paper against all terrorist organisations internally very fast. The list includes IS but also Kurdish organisations, DHKP-C (a Stalisnist revolutionary organisation), MLKP (associated to the SGDF who organised the trip to Suruc), TIKKO and many other smaller groups. in 3 days now the total arrests are about a thousand people. Most of these people are leftists and not Islamic militants. There is also a wave of arrest of civilians who are members of HDP in many cities and speeches by AKP and MHP (the nationalist movement party) about the need to close down the HDP.

    So basically, AKP government (even if we forget about the state practices of organised racism in Turkey) appears to push the state in a condition of a civil war, postponing maybe the hopes of a peace between Turks and Kurds indefinitely. The anger in the Kurdish cities is increasing with every killed guerilla or civilian and arbitrary police violence and the empty lies of Turkish government to make peace with them and let them live with honor. On the other hand Turkish society is unfortunately a fertile soil to grow hatred against the Kurds and Kurdish freedom movement by propaganda. This way AKP hopes to consolidate its power by exclude the legal Kurdish political organisations once again. HDP is trying to reply back on forming a peace block with socialist parties, CHP and NGOs. However the future looks very grim due to the shameless attacks of state forces.

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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #40 - July 28, 2015, 06:04 PM
    Interview with YPG commander Polat Can: http://dckurd.org/2015/07/28/interview-with-polat-can-the-representative-of-the-peoples-protection-units-to-the-international-coalition/
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    Do you have information or evidence indicating that Turkish government is supporting ISIS against you? And that Turkey is facilitating the movements of extremist groups to Syria?

    Polat Can: Turkey has phobia against all things having to do with Kurds and Kurdistan, and Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan publicly said that he will do everything possible in order to prevent the Kurds in Syria from obtaining their rights.  He pushes the coalition forces to avoid cooperation with us, and as long as the terrorist groups fight the Kurdish fighters he would be fine with their movement and use of Turkish land – they do that against the free will of Syrian people in general and the Kurdish people specifically.

    The Turkish government has imposed a tight blockade on our territory for years, but at the same time they opened their official and non-official border crossings with ISIS (in Tel Abyad before and in Jarabulus now) and with the al-Nusra Front in Idlib and Azaz.  Turkey demands that all the Syrian parties to work against us in order to allow them to operate on their territory or to provide them with the required support.  Previously, the whole world saw large trucks loaded with weapons and projectiles that were sent by Turkey to terrorists in Syria under pretext of humanitarian and medical aid.  Turkey is also the main gateway for the transit of terrorists to Syria and Iraqi Kurdistan. According to reliable information that we have recently obtained, Erdogan’s daughter (Sümeyye Erdogan) oversees the committee handling the treatment of ISIS terrorists in Turkish hospitals.  They are obstructing international efforts in the fight against ISIS.

    Many Turkish and non-Turkish prisoners who have been captured by us in Rojava acknowledged that they were recruited by state-backed Turkish entities or by Turkish intelligence, and captured ISIS fighters emphasized the key role of Turkish intelligence in the terrorist attacks against our people in the Kurdish areas.

    The Turkish government is completely involved in supporting terrorism with the aim of eliminating the Kurdish gains in Rojava and stifling any democratic and peaceful solution in Syria.
    ....

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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #41 - July 28, 2015, 07:13 PM
    This may help explain what the US gets from backing Turkey: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/Default.aspx?pageID=238&nID=85850&NewsCatID=510
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #42 - July 28, 2015, 07:50 PM
    Also hints of Syrian refugees in Turkey being removed to 'safe zone' in Syria:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/new-us-turkey-plan-amounts-to-a-safe-zone-in-northwest-syria/2015/07/26/0a533345-ff2e-4b40-858a-c1b36541e156_story.html
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    Turkey and the United States have agreed on the outlines of a de facto “safe zone” along the Turkey-Syria border under the terms of a deal that is expected to significantly increase the scope and pace of the U.S.-led air war against the Islamic State in northern Syria, according to U.S. and Turkish officials.

    The agreement includes a plan to drive the Islamic State out of a 68-mile-long area west of the Euphrates River and reaching into the province of Aleppo that would then come under the control of the Syrian opposition. If fully implemented, it would also bring American planes in regular, close proximity to bases, aircraft and air defenses operated by the Syrian government, and directly benefit opposition rebels fighting President Bashar al-Assad’s regime.

    Operations in the targeted area would stop short of meeting long-standing Turkish demands for a full-scale, declared no-fly zone, but the area could eventually become a protected haven for some of the estimated 2­ million Syrian civilians who have fled to Turkey.

    The first word of the agreement came last week, when Turkey said it had agreed to allow armed U.S. aircraft to fly out of its base at Incirlik.
    ....

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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #43 - July 28, 2015, 08:22 PM
    More on the strategic thinking: http://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/turkey-expands-campaign-against-isis-and-pkk
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #44 - July 28, 2015, 08:43 PM
    Quote from: Carne Ross
    Now Erdogan is taking green light from West on ISIS to repress Kurds inside Turkey, inc HDP -  http://tinyurl.com/ne8aygp 

    https://mobile.twitter.com/carneross/status/626054083976278016

    Quote from: Alev Scott
    Watched Demirtas' speech half-way in - did he really say 80 HDP deputies will pre-emptively lift their own immunity from prosecution tomorrow?

    .@AlevScott PT - if so, wow. Here it is reported in admittedly not very reliable @todayszamancom :  http://www.todayszaman.com/latest-news_turkeys-pro-kurdish-party-leader-denies-wrongdoing-after-erdogan-urges-prosecution_394843.html …

    .@nblaser18 It seems they are submitting a petition to lift it. Must be unprecedented.

    .@chaseawinter It's genius from start to finish.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/AlevScott/status/625999687796043784
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #45 - July 28, 2015, 09:03 PM
    Quote from: Rudaw English
    Breaking: Turkish airstrikes are hitting several civilian villages in Matin and Qandil mountains, Kurdistan Region.

    Breaking: Turkish airstrikes have hit Qalatwan, Razga and Mararadu villages in Qandil Mount, Sulaimani province, KRG.

    Rudaw reporter: Turkish airstrikes have caused to fire, burning forests and orchards in Zakho area, Duhok province.

    Rudaw reporter in Zakho: its not clear yet how many people killed or wounded in the result of Turkish airstrikes in Zakho area.

    Turkish fighter jets renew strikes on PKK bases in #Kurdistan region  http://fb.me/22XlB9N9S

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RudawEnglish
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #46 - July 28, 2015, 09:29 PM
    A witch hunt for Kurdish politicians Is brewing in Turkey: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kurdish-politicians-turkey_55b77edbe4b0224d8833c39b
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #47 - July 28, 2015, 09:50 PM
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    #Turkey Internal Diyarbakir-Istanbul flights continuously being delayed. Reason: Jets taking off at the same time..  https://twitter.com/murad_ciya21/status/626125514026041344 …

    + Wait - To bomb Kurdish strongholds, not ISIS.

    SE #Turkey Sounds of massive explosions in largest Kurdish metropolitan #Amed #Diyarbakir #Now

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Kgthetweet/status/626131183210881024
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #48 - July 28, 2015, 11:18 PM
    "I did support the peace process...": https://mobile.twitter.com/TurkishIranian/status/626144031060414464
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #49 - July 28, 2015, 11:29 PM
    Assyrians warn NATO against Turkish intervention in Syria: https://mobile.twitter.com/davidvergili/status/625608543668977664/photo/1
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #50 - July 28, 2015, 11:31 PM
    Ankara's risky offensive: http://www.ecfr.eu/article/commentary_ankaras_risky_offensive3081#.VbYIj4kT9qE.twitter
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    US officials deny that there is any link between Turkey’s sudden cooperative spirit with the anti-IS coalition and its renewed aggression against the PKK, but for most observers, the simultaneous timing rules out the possibility of a total coincidence. Several reports suggest that the US has agreed to “turn a blind eye” to Turkish military action against the PKK in Iraq and against its sister party in Syria, the Democratic Union Party (PYD). Turkish forces have reportedly also now shelled a village controlled by the PYD’s armed wing, the YPG, in northern Syria.

    Ankara fears that the PYD/YPG are busy establishing a PKK-run statelet along its border with Syria that could pose an equal or even greater national security threat than IS. For their part the Kurds now fear that Turkey will use its fight against IS in Syria as a cover to further target the PYD/YPG to block its quest to gain control of additional territory in northern Syrian to link Afrin, its westernmost area of control, to Kobani further east. Turkey’s reported call for a “partial no-fly zone” stretching from Marea to Jarablus appears to corroborate this theory.

    It is unlikely that Turkey would militarily target the PYD/YPG without a nod from Washington, given that the US has for months been relying on the Kurdish group as a key ground partner to the anti-IS coalition. The coalition’s work with the PYD/YPG has resulted in some of the most important gains against IS in Syria, namely in Kobani and Tel Abyad.
    ....

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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #51 - July 28, 2015, 11:47 PM
    Turkey, Syria, and the United States: quagmires are us: http://blogs.cfr.org/cook/2015/07/27/turkey-syria-and-the-united-states-quagmires-are-us/
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    This weekend Turkey and the United States took steps toward getting more heavily involved in the Syrian quagmire. First, after a year of protracted negotiations, Turkey agreed to allow the United States to use Incirlik airbase to conduct operations against the so-called Islamic State. In return, the Obama administration has agreed to the establishment of a “safe zone” in northwestern Syria that “moderate Syrian opposition forces” would protect along with Turkish and American airpower. Second, Turkey undertook airstrikes against Islamic State positions in Syria and the forces of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) in northern Iraq.

    The early reaction has focused almost exclusively on Ankara’s sudden interest in combatting the Islamic State and the establishment of safe zones as potential “game changers” in the fight against Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and the Assad regime. In reality this effort is likely to achieve much less than expected. It is true that the Turks have gotten more serious about the threat of the Islamic State, especially since the Suruc bombing on July 20, but Ankara, which has grown increasingly uncomfortable as the Kurds have made gains against Islamic State forces in Syria, is primarily interested in suppressing Kurdish nationalism. This has placed Washington in the odd position of having essentially given the go-ahead to its most reluctant ally in the fight against the Islamic State to combat some of the most effective fighters in that conflict —the Kurds, both the Turkish Kurds of the PKK and the affiliated forces of their Syrian cousins, the People’s Protection Units, known by the acronym YPG—under the guise of combatting the same enemy. This seems like a steep price to pay for the use of Incirlik while threatening to draw the United States into a war with no end.
    ....

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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #52 - July 29, 2015, 10:23 AM
    Meanwhile Ed Husain backs bombing of Kurds...

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Ed_Husain/status/625275139500998656
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    Stop the sympathy for Marxist terror. Just as Britain smashed the IRA and weakened militants, Turkey is right to attack PKK bases. Overdue.

    America was wrong to use Jihadists against Soviets in Afghanistan. Today, using PKK Marxists against ISIS Jihadists. Wrong again.

    @General_Sad Not at all. Most Kurds do not support the Marxist PKK. KRG and others mostly Sunni, Hanafi/Shafi'i, Sufi mainstream believers.

    UK's Cameron right to support Turkey's Davutoglu. Conservative allies opposed to PKK, ISIS. More coordination needed.

    Conspiracy theorists who blindly claim that Turkey supports ISIS, please provide evidence. Otherwise end the claptrap. Futile.

    I've no time for Quilliam but I was still a bit shocked by this - both the stupidity and the support for state terrorism by an Islamist government... "adjunct senior fellow for Middle Eastern studies at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York, and senior advisor at the Tony Blair Faith Foundation", ffs.

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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #53 - July 29, 2015, 01:59 PM
    Senior Western official: Links between Turkey and ISIS are now 'undeniable'
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #54 - July 29, 2015, 02:08 PM
    More nonsense from Ed Husain: http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/06/09/have-turkish-voters-made-themselves-heard/turkey-is-pioneering-a-new-model-of-democracy-in-the-middle-east
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    ...
    Turkey and its largest political party, the Muslim conservative A.K.P. (Justice and Development Party), is pioneering a new model of democracy in the Middle East. Something that is closer to Europe’s Christian democrats and America’s social conservatives.
    ....
    The fractured opposition of leftists, nationalists and Kurds reduced the majority of the A.K.P. for good reason. The real test was not why that happened, but how the A.K.P. has responded by respecting the popular will, not demanding perennial political office. There is no violence, no military coups and no calls for recounts. Instead, either a coalition government or an early election beckons. The winner is democracy.

    But we must stop expecting that democracies must look like France, Britain or the United States. Just as we in America and Britain find French laicite as too extreme, so do religious Turks.
    ....
    Similarly, in Turkey and the wider Middle East, we must allow for breathing space that helps give birth to new democracies that are reflections of the religions and cultures of these great peoples. Turkey is leading the way and deserves our support.


    There's more: http://www.newsweek.com/defeat-erdogan-shows-respect-democracy-340926

    The Arabist blog was pointing this out in 2013: http://arabist.net/blog/2013/6/2/there-goes-ed-husain-again

    And in 2012: https://arabist2.squarespace.com/blog/2012/4/17/whats-up-with-cfrs-ed-husain-and-bahrain.html
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #55 - July 29, 2015, 02:40 PM
    Quote from: David Graeber
    Erdogan demands leftist MPs be stripped of immunity to reverse election results. HDP responds all MPs should be  http://anfenglish.com/news/hdp-as-80-parliamentarians-we-ask-for-the-lifting-of-immunities-for-all …

    so it's official: Turkey was fully collaborating with ISIS and the US was aware of it  http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/26/isis-syria-turkey-us?CMP=share_btn_tw …

    https://mobile.twitter.com/davidgraeber
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #56 - July 29, 2015, 03:57 PM
    Quote from: zeca on July 29, 2015, 02:40 PM
    https://mobile.twitter.com/davidgraeber

    "Erdogan demands leftist MPs be stripped of immunity to reverse election results. HDP responds all MPs should be "

    If that TURKEY does that and stay in power another 10 years HE WILL END UP LIKE THAT Mohammed Gaddafi

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d20_1438070070
    http://www.kentucky.com/2015/07/23/3956588/turkish-journalist-fired-over.html
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #57 - July 29, 2015, 07:29 PM
    Turkey's political influence felt as Washington turns its back on Kurds fighting ISIS

    Alev Scott - Erdogan hits out at the Kurds
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #58 - July 30, 2015, 10:22 AM
    Cengiz Gunes - Turkey opens up old wounds with a new campaign against the PKK
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  • Turkey: At least 28 killed in suicide bombing in Suruc
     Reply #59 - July 30, 2015, 08:55 PM
    Quote from: Zeynep Tufekci
    Moves underway to prosecute many HDP's Kurdish deputies, including leader Demirtaş, as Pres. Erdogan just called for.

    Kurdish conflict cost 40,000 lives already. With Syrian war at south, another round should be unthinkable, yet seems imminent. Deeply scary.

    A re-escalation of the Kurdish conflict could well draw Turkey into the violent vortex in Syria & Iraq. How is everyone not deeply alarmed?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/zeynep/status/626774160153292800

    This is one of the better reports I've seen on the situation: https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/07/29/erdogan-turkey-kurds-islamic-state/?

    Apparently IS haven't claimed responsibility for the Suruç bombing.
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