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  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #630 - October 05, 2015, 05:49 PM

    Registration chaos at Moria camp, Lesvos: http://infomobile.w2eu.net/2015/10/05/moria-lesbos-registration-chaos-police-violence-hunger-thirst-and-sleeping-rough/

    “This looks like the end of the world here!”: http://infomobile.w2eu.net/2015/10/06/moria-lesbos-this-looks-like-the-end-of-the-world-here/
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #631 - October 06, 2015, 10:45 AM

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/05/eu-leaders-erdogan-refugee-plan
    Quote
    EU leaders have pleaded with Turkey’s authoritarian president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, to join forces behind a radical plan aimed at stemming the flow of hundreds of thousands of refugees and migrants to Europe.

    The Europeans are offering eventually to take half a million Syrians from new refugee and asylum-processing camps they would co-fund in Turkey in return for Ankara tightening its borders to stop people being smuggled in hazardous vessels to Greece, and agreeing to take back migrants who make it “illegally” to Europe via Turkey.

    As part of any possible pact, Erdoğan pressed for a relaxation in visa requirements for Turks travelling to Europe. He also wants the EU to list Turkey as “a safe third country”, effectively whitewashing Ankara’s increasingly repressive policies and deteriorating human rights and media freedoms record.

    “Europe has to manage its borders better. We expect Turkey to do the same,” said Donald Tusk, the president of the European council, following talks with Erdogan. “The situation where hundreds of thousands are fleeing to the European Union from Turkey must be stopped.”

    Erdoğan responded that Ankara was hosting almost 10 times as many Syrian refugees as the EU. While open to talks with Brussels, he said the key to stopping the flow of refugees was to establish a no-fly zone over the Turkish-Syria border and a buffer zone in northern Syria. This is viewed as a non-starter in Europe and in Washington, but Tusk said: “The European Union is ready to take up all issues with Turkey so we can also discuss a possible buffer zone in Syria.”

    Erdoğan came to Brussels at a time of unusual political vulnerability at home, but holding most of the cards in the migration crisis and intending to extract a high price for agreeing to a new plan hatched by Germany and the European commission.

    “Erdoğan is weak at home. But on this he’s in a position of incredible strength and we’re in a position of incredible weakness,” said a senior EU diplomat. “The [immigration] system has collapsed. We rush from one meeting to another. The politicians need to be seen to be acting, to be doing something. This accentuates the sense of chaos.”

    Turkey is home to 2 million Syrian refugees and is the source of most of the influx into Europe of recent months that has quickly ballooned into one of Europe’s biggest crises, triggering panic, the erection of national border controls, razorwire fences and endless feuding between EU member states.

    A pact with Turkey is now seen as the key to the effort to turn chaos into control, not least in Germany, which expects the arrival of 1 million newcomers this year, and where the chancellor, Angela Merkel, has become the driver of an embryonic common European immigration regime that would take some of the load off Berlin.

    Merkel saw Erdoğan at the United Nations last week and the European commission at the weekend leaked details of an “action plan” aimed at coaxing the Turks into cooperation. No agreement is expected on Monday in Brussels, but the hope is to finalise the outlines of a new policy with Turkey at an EU summit next week.

    Erdoğan has sunk to pariah status in the west since 2013 because of his hardline responses to internal dissent. Europe’s refugee emergency, however, has its leaders increasingly keen to overlook the problems.

    “Without Turkish support, no solution to the refugee crisis is possible,” said the European Stability Initiative thinktank. “There are two indispensable players in any solution to this crisis: Germany and Turkey. There is little that EU institutions can bring to the table. It is Germany that must take the lead.”

    If Turkey is the main source of new arrivals, Greece is where they enter the EU – 370,000 this year. Controlling the frontiers and turning people back is complicated by the fact that the borders are maritime, not land. Only 4% of new arrivals are being registered in Greece, according to senior Brussels sources, and the Greeks do not have the fingerprinting equipment required to register them.

    The aim is to have the Turks and the Greeks mount joint border controls at sea, organised by Frontex, the EU’s borders agency. It is demanding almost 800 new staff from the member states. Diplomats say it is more likely to get 400, mainly sent to Greece.

    The idea is that the Turks and Greeks mount joint maritime border patrols and that intercepted boat people be turned back to Turkey.
    ....

    So it looks like they're aiming for a return to an official policy of push backs. Expect the death toll to rise.
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #632 - October 06, 2015, 01:49 PM

    Potemkin villages *

    Tsipras is visiting Lesvos today.
    Tsipras has this Obama quality of humanely talking the talk on issues he's shielded from attending to down pat. Vague promise, no delivery.
    ....
    My friend @xrisofi is reporting from Lesvos. PM Tsipras due to arrive, finally. Inspection cleanup apparently

    Waiting for Tsipras: 4 ships picked up refugees from Lesvos yesterday, another 2 today (lest he sees too many)  https://twitter.com/xrisofi/status/651343166298300416

    @tsipras_eu, Lesvos cops are hiding refugees from you. "Don't load them all in, leave some for him to see."  https://twitter.com/xrisofi/status/651343757380612096

    When in the army, we once blitzpainted the barracks for a general inspection. The rain washed it off like mascara. No rain will dilute Moria

    Garbage cleanup in Mytilene while waiting for Tsipras. Are they being picked up in Moria & Kara Tepe too?  https://twitter.com/xrisofi/status/651345654292324352

    Teacher Dude ‏@teacherdude
    It seems 10,500 refugees set to arrive in Eidomeni this evening, groups here in Thessaloniki trying to mobilize ahead if their arrival.

    Marianna Karakoulaki ‏@Faloulah
    Tsipras & the Austrian chancellor are in the islands so they added extra ferries for #RefugeesGR. 11K are to arrive. All will go to Idomeni

    Tsipras & Faymann came thru the back entrance, saw few refugees at the port, everything clean, departed  https://twitter.com/xrisofi/status/651363059143954432

    Faymann told Tsipras there were more refugees in #Lesvos 3 months ago  https://twitter.com/xrisofi/status/651363059143954432 (b/c they were all shipped out for them)

    Basically, the refugees in Lesvos were swept under the carpet for Faymann/Tsipras' visit. Next Eidomeni bottleneck is on them.

    Many thanks to @xrisofi for reporting on the reality of the Tsipras visit. W.o reporters & activists there, we'd get a skewed img of Lesvos
    ....
    .@tsipras_eu was Mytilene emptied of refugees, boats kept from landing in Lesvos at your request or are you unaware?  https://twitter.com/bouckap/status/651375711941488640

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #633 - October 06, 2015, 02:41 PM

    No boats so far today. Very odd #Lesvos

    NGOs are saying 5,000 ppl landed on island yesterday

    Still no boats. Looks, through binoculars, like that there are a lot of Turkish coast guard ships out. Rumour is they let boats go after 3

    Rumour is also that because Tsipras is visiting the island today, the Turkish coast guard is out to stop the boats

    Gabriel a tour guide from Eftalou says on no boats coming today 'this is the first day we can relax in a year'


  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #634 - October 06, 2015, 04:11 PM

    "Thank you for the day off, Mr Tsipras!": https://mobile.twitter.com/LSpyropoulou/status/651415307412729856/photo/1

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #635 - October 06, 2015, 04:31 PM

    Still no boats today on Lesvos. NGO guy in touch with people smugglers says some boats are going to the island of Chios

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #636 - October 06, 2015, 04:35 PM

    Wonder if sudden arrival in Piraeus of 10.5k refugees has anything to do with arrival of Greek PM on islands?

    Problem is that 10,500 refugees turn up at Eidomeni then Macedonian govt will probably shut down border.

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #637 - October 06, 2015, 05:30 PM

    European Commission press release - Draft Action Plan: Stepping up EU-Turkey cooperation on support of refugees and migration management in view of the situation in Syria and Iraq

    http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-15-5777_en.htm
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #638 - October 06, 2015, 06:29 PM

    Tsipras in Lesvos: Hiding the refugee crisis under the carpet: https://reported.ly/2015/10/06/greeces-tsipras-in-lesvos-hiding-the-refugee-crisis-under-the-carpet/
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #639 - October 06, 2015, 08:14 PM

    To go or not to go: a Syrian asks the question: http://www.caritas.eu/news/to-go-or-not-to-go-a-syrian-asks-the-question
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #640 - October 06, 2015, 08:35 PM

    Boat just arrived; it's pitch black here;  people are sure more are coming

    Almost a dozen boats have come in now so far - crossing the sea in the dark

    People are saying there will be huge numbers arriving tomorrow, given very few coming today

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #641 - October 07, 2015, 08:12 AM

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/05/eu-leaders-erdogan-refugee-planSo it looks like they're aiming for a return to an official policy of push backs. Expect the death toll to rise.

    If Merkel would aim for push backs, she will easily get it. She's giving money to Greece after all. The article clearly says that European goal is Turkey to take back migrants who illegally cross the border.

    The article also highlight how stupid, naïve and weak the European politicians are. Erdogan is not in any position of strength, if you know how to deal with these kind of bastards. Harsh economic sanctions to Turkey will make him sign an readmission treaty. 
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #642 - October 07, 2015, 03:07 PM

    There were 6,000 people a day here at Lesvos reception center. Now empty. Smugglers redirecting human cargo to Chios

    Second day of barely no boats arriving on Lesvos Island in Greece following stepped up Turkish patrols. Smugglers redirecting 2 Chios Island

    Turkish smugglers plan 2 send more boats 2 Chios island where there is no reception center, will make life difficult 4 refugees.

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #643 - October 07, 2015, 03:14 PM

    HRW - EU shifting responsibility on refugees and asylum seekers: http://www.hrw.org/news/2015/10/07/eu-shifting-responsibility-refugees-asylum-seekers
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #644 - October 07, 2015, 03:50 PM

    This  http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-15-5777_en.htm seems to imply Europe looks to call #Turkey a safe 3rd asylum country.

    One that attacks #refugees boats is at war with its largest minority & doesn't give #refugees workers' rights. EU still outsourcing responsibility to flawed neighbours

    I have a bad feeling that 'stepped up #EU-#Turkey co-operation' will prevent #refugees to escape bombing in #Syria

    Smugglers say large numbers of Syrian war refugees fleeing Russian bombing unable to sneak into Turkey because of tough policing of border

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #645 - October 07, 2015, 03:55 PM

    Video - My escape from Syria: Europe or die: https://news.vice.com/video/my-escape-from-syria-europe-or-die?utm_source=vicenewstwitter
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #646 - October 07, 2015, 09:15 PM

    Boats coming in again tonight to north Lesvos in large numbers

    8 boats so far landed on Lesvos, Greece, so far this night, all packed w families mostly Syrians. So many babies.

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #647 - October 07, 2015, 09:33 PM

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IoJOdyZ1gFI
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #648 - October 08, 2015, 10:17 AM

    No boats again today. Turkey's maybe doing this as a show of force to Europe - they'll want a lot more than €1bn to stop flow altogether though.

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #649 - October 08, 2015, 10:26 AM

    Last night on the Macedonian border.
    Up on Greek - Macedonian border groups struggling to deal with numbers of refugees arriving, a coach every ten minutes. Supplies running low

    Greek authorities decided to ferry 10,500 refugees from Lesbos ahead of visit by Greek PM and Austrian FM, dumped problem in other's laps

    It's been pouring with rain up at Eidomeni on Greek-Macedonian border all day, tents filling up to capacity yet more coaches arriving

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #650 - October 08, 2015, 07:04 PM

    Three more boats arrive in the night on Lesvos, several people hypothermic.

    U cannot understand terror of night boat crossings from Turkey 2 Greece until u see it, every boat hypothermia cases

    Greek fishermen have been going out and saving people from boats in trouble tonight #Lesvos

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #651 - October 08, 2015, 07:16 PM

    The Greek fishermen saving refugees from drowning: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/10/05/saving-migrants-drowning-daily-job-greek-fisherman-lesbos/73334380/
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #652 - October 09, 2015, 09:46 AM

    You really cannot understand the terror of the night boat crossings until you see them for yourself. Every boat is just packed with people completely soaked to the bone, the boat full of water and close to sinking. There are babies, young kids, pregnant women and elderly people on every boat we have seen. I spent the whole evening working with a wonderful Israeli doctor treating people for hypothermic shock, preventing pregnant women from miscarrying, ferrying kids out of the boats. No ambulances and no Greek medics in sight. Incredible courage from the Greek life guards who guide in the boats and swim out into the rough sea to level them. Too many inexperienced volunteers who have no clue what they are doing. And after all this, the people who arrived have to go sleep on the pavement at the nearest village on the island, and hike 15km up the mountain to get a bus to the island capital. It is impossible to capture this in words, or images. We need doctors here now.

    Correction: I meant Spanish life guards, not Greek, helping people off the boats on Lesbos. These guys are amazing.

    One year old dead refugee infant found in dinghy off the coast of #Lesvos

    A result I suppose for the EU and Turkey's new harder line on protecting borders.
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #653 - October 09, 2015, 10:24 AM

    I was told recently there are criminal gangs forming from the refugees in places like Germany and a number of fraudsters/scam artists. Any links on that? I'm curious to see how true it is.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #654 - October 09, 2015, 12:50 PM

    ^I haven't seen anything on this so I couldn't really say.
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #655 - October 09, 2015, 03:41 PM

    Oscar Webb - 'On Lesvos': http://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2015/10/09/oscar-webb/on-lesbos/
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #656 - October 09, 2015, 03:45 PM

    Confirmed 7 month old baby died from hypothermia on boat 2 Lesbos last night, doctors worked 4 hour 2 try & save.

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #657 - October 09, 2015, 03:58 PM

    Want to donate for #refugees in #greece? Be cautious of NGOs. Some suggestions from a grass root activist I trust https://www.facebook.com/caoimhe.butterly/posts/10153503574041900

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #658 - October 09, 2015, 04:23 PM

    Housing refugees in Athens: https://mobile.twitter.com/Notara26
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #659 - October 09, 2015, 04:32 PM

    Migrant arrivals in Greece 'surge' to 7,000 daily: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34483681

    tbh I'm not sure how this fits in with the reduced numbers on Lesvos over the last few days.
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