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  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #180 - July 06, 2015, 03:45 PM

    Videos from yesterday
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w-03SmAt6KA&feature=youtu.be
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=QiUYfPVWasU
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #181 - July 06, 2015, 04:08 PM

    Government and opposition leaders agree: Juncker’s revised proposal + 5 Greek changes to be basis for new negotiations
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #182 - July 06, 2015, 07:30 PM

    A side effect of the current standoff with the EU is that the Western Union money transfer service has shut up shop in Greece for the time being (link), leaving refugees unable to receive funds from outside the country.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/spanakopitaki
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    I assume that's the reason why refugee numbers in #skg [Thessaloniki] dropped from 100 a day to 10-20 since Saturday!  https://twitter.com/shebagray/status/618113324195164160
    ....
    #GreeceCrisis probably affects #refugeesGr more than anyone else. as WU transferences to Greece are canceled, they are stuck: can't travel!
    ....
    @spanakopitaki THIS is gonna be a tough one for Greece, with huge numbers of refugees arriving on the islands every day & no way out!


    https://mobile.twitter.com/maledictus/status/618108559524544512
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    Not only Greeks. Other EU citizens, in effect, sanctioned. Can't wire money in. Is this a function of a Central bank? pic.twitter.com

    @albertjohn @teacherdude this is terrible news for #refugeesgr that rely on wire transfers to make their journey...

    @maledictus @albertjohn Hey, the #EU issued directive saying it's OK to bomb ships, what do they care if we can't  feed refugees?

    @maledictus I know . I tried to contact ppl in UK via FB to the help @teacherdude with feeding refugees in #Greece

    @teacherdude @maledictus I can probably wire money into Russia but not Greece - a member of the EU?


    Also https://mobile.twitter.com/keeptalkingGR/status/618109838254583809
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #183 - July 07, 2015, 12:53 PM

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?index=1&v=LBLLi6Vj9m8&list=PLXjqQf1xYLQ47IJ7OIRD2uP7cbhhjBU7B
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #184 - July 07, 2015, 04:27 PM

    BBC report from Lesvos: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33420008
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #185 - July 07, 2015, 09:37 PM

    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard on the debt negotiations: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11724924/Europe-is-blowing-itself-apart-over-Greece-and-nobody-can-stop-it.html

    Costas Lapavitsas on what happens if there isn't a deal: http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=14181

    See also this discussion on Twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/IrateGreek/status/618529408069058560

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PY-qp9egjtk&feature=youtu.be
    Edit: Discussion between Paul Mason and Ambrose EP: https://mobile.twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/618666738746556416

    The US view: http://www.omfif.org/analysis/commentary/2015/july/how-europe-loses-twice-in-greece/
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    The threat of Greek exit from the euro comes at a very delicate time when Europe needs the support of both Greece and the US through Nato for assistance on myriad dangerous security issues it is facing in the Mediterranean.

    However, security co-operation between the US and EU members has been sliding for many years. If Greece suddenly refused to work with the EU on issues such as refugees, it is not at all certain that the US would come to the rescue.
    ....
    Angered by the heavy insolvency payments which US taxpayers would incur if Greece defaults on IMF loans, a European call for help from Nato might fall on deaf ears.
    ....

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #186 - July 08, 2015, 12:02 AM

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/07/18-feared-dead-people-smugglers-boat-capsizes-greek-islands?
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    Up to 19 people are feared to have drowned trying to reach Greece from Turkey, in the deadliest Mediterranean shipwreck since May.

    A people smuggler’s boat carrying up to 40 passengers capsized on Tuesday morning between the small Greek islands of Agathonisi and Farmakonisi, 10 miles from the Turkish coast. One passenger has been confirmed dead and 21 have been rescued, leaving as many as 18 still missing. “We don’t know their nationalities,” said Stella Nanou, a UN refugee agency spokeswoman.

    The shipwreck is the first major tragedy in the Mediterranean for over a month, due in part to an increase in European search-and-rescue operations in the sea’s central region. But rescue missions remain limited in the eastern Mediterranean, where this year’s migration levels have eclipsed even the record numbers of arrivals to Italy, raising the likelihood of boat disasters.

    In the first half of 2015, more than 68,000 migrants – mainly Syrian, Afghan and Iraqi refugees – have risked the short trip from Turkey to the Greek islands, double the total number of arrivals in 2014.

    The influx has overwhelmed Greek institutions, which are already unable to cope with the country’s catastrophic financial crisis.

    “Our island can’t handle that many people coming over,” said Thanassis Andreotis, the president of a coastal village in Lesvos, the island that has received the most migrant arrivals so far in 2015. “There’s no way to take care of them.” In the absence of government capacity, some of Andreotis’s fellow islanders have paid from their own pocket to build makeshift shelters.

    The journey the migrants make from Turkey is less arduous than that from Libya to Italy – but is still highly dangerous. Most travel in overcrowded inflatable dinghies that have just one air pocket, making deflation more likely.

    “Psychologically that was the hardest part of my journey so far,” said Wajuih, a Syrian photographer who risked the boat trip to Greece earlier this year and subsequently walked to central Europe. “I’ve never been in such a small boat. And if the boat had flooded we would have been in the water and it would have been a disaster. There were six kids with us and about nine women.”

    But more and more Syrians are risking the journey to Greece, in part because that to Italy from Libya has become harder and riskier. The Libyan civil war has made travel within its borders more dangerous. Meanwhile, Libya’s neighbours, Egypt and Algeria, have made it more difficult to travel through their territory to reach Libyan soil.

    A UN refugee agency spokeswoman, Laura Padoan, said: “It’s just a short distance between Greece and Turkey but it is still very dangerous. What we need are safe legal routes to Europe, so that people don’t die in the process of getting here. Greece is facing a financial crisis and there is now a growing humanitarian crisis – and it can’t be left to Greece to deal with on its own. There needs to be a Europe-wide response.

    “The vast majority of people arriving here are not economic migrants, they are refugees. Over 60% of those arriving in Greece are from Syria.”

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #187 - July 08, 2015, 11:01 AM

    Tourists on Greek island join local volunteers to aid refugees

    Some good news: https://mobile.twitter.com/maledictus/status/618704382411018240
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    The Greek gov't ends the criminalisation of #refugeesGr transport, a major win for activists on Greek islands  http://www.efsyn.gr/arthro/telos-stin-poinikopoiisi-tis-metaforas-metanaston … (in Gr)

    https://mobile.twitter.com/teacherdude/status/618739089517453312
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    Just checked, Western Union opening but only to those with Greek bank account, then only with 60e a day limit. Refugees stuck without funds.

    Capital controls also hitting refugees arriving and travelling through Greece. Stuck in Athens and on the islands.

    Also seems police on islands delaying the issue of travel papers to refugees. Can anyone confirm?

    http://www.tovima.gr/en/article/?aid=720525
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    The migrant detention centers that have been set up across Greece are facing serious problems, with the Ethnos newspaper reporting that there is no more funding for catering at the detention center in Samos.

    According to the newspaper report, the firm that has undertaken the catering for the detention center on Samos did not deliver any food on Tuesday, for the first time, as it has not been paid since September 2014.

    The detention center on Samos houses about 1,250 migrants, who were eventually provided with food after the intervention of the Ministries of Public Order and National Defense.

    Ultimately the deputy general secretary Tzanetos Philippakos from the Ministry of Public managed to secure 40,000 euros for catering, following talks with the head of the Greek bank union Louka Katseli.

    http://www.msf.org/article/greece-thousands-migrants-blocked-borders
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    During the last week, the number of migrants and refugees stranded in the shrubby forests around the village of Idomeni on the border between Greece and The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) increased tenfold.
    ....
    Due to a recent enhancement of border enforcement by the FYROM police and special forces, more than 2,000 people travelling towards northern Europe have found themselves blocked at Idomeni, and some are now attempting to cross at other border points.
    ....

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #188 - July 08, 2015, 04:26 PM

    An excellent article by Patrick Kingsley: Greek island refugee crisis: local people and tourists rally round migrants
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #189 - July 08, 2015, 07:46 PM

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7oRRf7JcH8g
    http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2015/07/08/there-is-also-refugees-crisis-in-greece-video/
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    Unbelievable scenes on the island of Lesvos as refugees try to raid food truck. The incident took place when nearly 2,500 migrants hosted in the camp of Lesvos (Mytilene) municipality in Kara Tepe saw the catering truck approaching. They started to run for a plate with food.

    Reason fro the panic to be left hungry without food was a rumor claiming that catering service for refugees had stopped on the island of Samos due to debts.
    ....

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #190 - July 09, 2015, 09:57 AM

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/09/greek-crisis-un-refugee-agency-struggle-cope-banks-fail?
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    The UN refugee agency says it will struggle to provide basic supplies to a wave of refugees in the Greek islands if the country’s banking system fails in the coming days.

    Greece’s islands have in recent weeks overtaken Italy as the primary entry point for refugees to Europe, with nearly 80,000 arriving this year from Turkey – a rate six times the equivalent figure from 2014, according to the UN.

    More than 9,000 have arrived in the past week alone....

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #191 - July 09, 2015, 12:17 PM

    'We underestimated their power': Greek government insider lifts the lid on five months of 'humiliation' and 'blackmail'
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #192 - July 09, 2015, 12:22 PM



    My goodness gracious what a video... Thanks Zeca..





    well that is Greece  from BBC http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33457251.. A ancient country of this little planet  that gave birth to people like

    Socrates., Hippocrates., Democrites., Isocrates .,  Plato  and  zillion others..  I wonder where the humanity of this planet would have been  if different parts of the globe continued to produce such great rational personalities INSTEAD OF FUCKING FAITH HEADS,  STUPID FAITHS AND STUPID RELIGIONS

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #193 - July 09, 2015, 01:06 PM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/sturdyAlex/status/619122495023640577
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    Greek Parliament just voted for 100k kids, born in Greece to migrant parents, to get citizenship. That's the gov't they're trying to topple.

    Edit:
    http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2015/07/09/parliament-approves-bill-granting-greek-citizenship-to-migrants-children/
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    Greek Parliament voted today the bill that grants migrants’ children the right to Greek citizenship. The bill’s main purpose is Greek citizenship for second generation children born in Greece to migrant parents which weren’t covered by any legal framework.

    According to Alternate Migration Minister Tasia Christodoulopoulou the bill will affect a little below 100,000 children.

    The three main conditions introduced by the bill for the acquisition of citizenship by children are:

        •5-year legal stay of at least one parent in Greece.

        •Children born within this five-year period, during which at least one parent lived in the country.

       • Children enrolled in first grade and still attending school when they submit an application for the acquisition of nationality.

    The bill was voted per Article. Article No 1 -referring to second generation children was voted by SYRIZA, to Potami, KKE, PASOK and 1 ANEL MP. It was downvoted by ANEL, New Democracy and Golden Dawn.

    PS There are also other provisions for young migrant children .. but you know… no time nowadays..

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #194 - July 09, 2015, 06:04 PM

    Socrates., Hippocrates., Democrites., Isocrates .,  Plato  and  zillion others..  I wonder where the humanity of this planet would have been  if different parts of the globe continued to produce such great rational personalities INSTEAD OF FUCKING FAITH HEADS,  STUPID FAITHS AND STUPID RELIGIONS


    Yes, we are in debt to the Greeks and I don't think we can ever pay this debt.

    Unfortunately with irresponsible politicians like Tsipras, Merkel and those around them, the Greek people will suffer even more.
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #195 - July 09, 2015, 07:24 PM

    James K. Galbraith on the current state of play in the Greek crisis:

    A look behind the scenes of the Greek referendum and what could happen next


    A more personal take on it from Alex Andreou:

    The Greek crisis will pass; our humanity is what matters
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #196 - July 09, 2015, 10:09 PM

    The new Greek proposals: http://www.naftemporiki.gr/finance/story/976680/the-greek-reform-proposals

    Edit: Greeks on Twitter aren't at all happy with this. e.g. https://mobile.twitter.com/sturdyAlex/status/619283095615877121
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    I now think Greece would be better off outside the €, absorbing pain of default, constructing own recovery. Better than being a debt colony.

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #197 - July 10, 2015, 09:46 AM

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OCSpCOQopi0
    Paul Mason - What was the point of the referendum?

    Alex Andreou - The pantomime of the Greek deal

    Stathis Kouvelakis - From the absurd to the tragic

    https://mobile.twitter.com/yanisvaroufakis/status/619530678049370116
    Quote from: Yanis Varoufakis
    Sine qua non: debt restructure or no deal! Or so say I.

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #198 - July 10, 2015, 12:46 PM

    Quote

    Hi,  zeca  I wonder why Greece is in so much economic mess?  where as some facts of recent past (2000 to 2008 or so)on its  economy suggest it should have had robust economic structure..

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_government-debt_crisis

    I wonder this economic mess is due to this supranational institutions of  European Union



    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #199 - July 10, 2015, 05:05 PM

    Lesvos - video from yesterday
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=ykuVHKFZFhI
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #200 - July 10, 2015, 05:40 PM

    Hi,  zeca  I wonder why Greece is in so much economic mess?  where as some facts of recent past (2000 to 2008 or so)on its  economy suggest it should have had robust economic structure.

    I think Greek political culture meeting a flood of cheap credit from Germany and France, together with EU backed infrastructure projects, high military spending, the Olympics etc. Corruption on the part of both Greek politicians and officials and European companies looking for contracts must have played some part, I'm not sure how significant. Greece should of course have defaulted when the debt crisis first became evident. At the time Varoufakis was an economic adviser to George Papandeou and the new PASOK government, and this was what he was arguing for. Instead Greece was pressurised into a bailout which served mainly to rescue German and French banks while increasing the country's debt burden. Varoufakis's blog is a good place to follow the history of this.

    Edit: new article by Varoufakis: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/10/germany-greek-pain-debt-relief-grexit?
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    ....
    In 2010, the Greek state became insolvent. Two options consistent with continuing membership of the eurozone presented themselves: the sensible one, that any decent banker would recommend – restructuring the debt and reforming the economy; and the toxic option – extending new loans to a bankrupt entity while pretending that it remains solvent.

    Official Europe chose the second option, putting the bailing out of French and German banks exposed to Greek public debt above Greece’s socioeconomic viability. A debt restructure would have implied losses for the bankers on their Greek debt holdings. Keen to avoid confessing to parliaments that taxpayers would have to pay again for the banks by means of unsustainable new loans, EU officials presented the Greek state’s insolvency as a problem of illiquidity, and justified the “bailout” as a case of “solidarity” with the Greeks.

    To frame the cynical transfer of irretrievable private losses on to the shoulders of taxpayers as an exercise in “tough love”, record austerity was imposed on Greece, whose national income, in turn – from which new and old debts had to be repaid – diminished by more than a quarter. It takes the mathematical expertise of a smart eight-year-old to know that this process could not end well.
    ....

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #201 - July 10, 2015, 06:37 PM

    Patrick Kingsley's report from the Greek-Macedonian border

    An average of 1,000 refugees now arriving on Greek islands every day

    Greek island community finds private ways to help refugees
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    ....Some 9,000 people landed last week on the island of Lesvos alone....

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #202 - July 11, 2015, 10:14 AM

    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard on last night's Greek vote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11732926/Crippled-Greece-yields-to-overwhelming-power-as-deal-looms.html

    Is European leftism compatible with the euro and the EMU?: http://www.protesilaos.com/leftism-euro-compatibility/

    Steve Keen on the politics of Syriza and the troika: http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevekeen/2015/07/11/its-all-greek-to-me-the-politics-of-syriza-and-the-troika/

    Varoufakis: http://yanisvaroufakis.eu/2015/07/11/behind-germanys-refusal-to-grant-greece-debt-relief-op-ed-in-the-guardian/
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    Tomorrow’s EU Summit will seal Greece’s fate in the Eurozone. As these lines are being written, Euclid Tsakalotos, my great friend, comrade and successor as Greece’s Finance Ministry is heading for a Eurogroup meeting that will determine whether a last ditch agreement between Greece and our creditors is reached and whether this agreement contains the degree of debt relief that could render the Greek economy viable within the Euro Area. Euclid is taking with him a moderate, well-thought out debt restructuring plan that is undoubtedly in the interests both of Greece and its creditors. (Details of it I intend to publish here on Monday, once the dust has settled.) If these modest debt restructuring proposals are turned down, as the German finance minister has foreshadowed, Sunday’s EU Summit will be deciding between kicking Greece out of the Eurozone now or keeping it in for a little while longer, in a state of deepening destitution, until it leaves some time in the future...

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #203 - July 12, 2015, 03:41 PM

    Kara Tepe refugee camp, Mytilene
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f1K9CyHQFfs&feature=youtu.be
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #204 - July 12, 2015, 08:19 PM

    Paul Mason - Greece crisis: Europe turns the screw

    #ThisIsACoup
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #205 - July 13, 2015, 10:44 AM

    Paul Mason - Greece wins euro debt deal but democracy is the loser
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    After an all-night negotiation during which Greek prime minister was subjected, according to one observer, to “mental waterboarding”, there is the basis of a deal to keep Greece in the euro. As I write, the Greek side do not have a document, but we have some details.

    Greece will have to implement the tough austerity measures demanded by its lenders, plus hand €50bn of assets to a privatisation fund, where sales will be used to pay down debt.

    In return it will get a new, third bailout deal reportedly worth €54bn; a promise of discussions on restructuring its debt; and a bridging loan to finance the repayments it cannot make. It is this – plus the imminent reopening of the banks under an ECB emergency lending scheme – that will allow PM Alexis Tsipras to save any kind of face with his own supporters, who are fuming.

    If you doubt how it might play on the Greek streets, consider the headline of Dimokratia, a conservative tabloid: “Greece in Auschwitz: Schauble attempts eurozone holocaust”.

    Last night the eurozone leaders presented Greece with an ultimatum that shredded all vestiges of control the government has over the economy going forward, and reversed every law it has put through parliament since being elected with 36 per cent of the vote in January.

    While Greeks vented, and the hashtag #ThisIsACoup went viral across the globe, Tsipras and his team negotiated. They knew that to have any chance of getting the deal through parliament they must free themselves of IMF involvement, resist the foreign-held privatisation fund, get some commitment to debt reprofiling and an assurance that the ECB will turn the taps of emergency lending back on to the banks.

    I said last night that without these things there was no chance of getting the austerity measures through parliament. It seems this morning that each of the measures has been fudged: so the privatisation fund remains in Athens, not Luxembourg; the IMF invovement is still there but apparently muted; the debt restructuring is there but unspecified.

    So I am still not certain this will pass.

    To understand what happens next you have to understand that, first, the Greek centre and conservative right is so morally and organisationally shattered by its defeats in the January election and the June referendum that it cannot simply take over.

    There is only a parliamentary majority if Tsipras leads it.

    The rebels in his party come in two genres: the hard left of the Left Platform, whose leader Panayotis Lafazanis abstained in Saturday’s parliamentary vote and may be sidelined in the coming days; and a more organic left, known informally as the 53 group, whose MPs voted yes on Saturday but can go no further.

    The Syriza newspaper Avgi spelled out the party’s approach going into the negotiations: they must accept and vote through the outcome of negotiations in order to stay in power, because the overthrow of a government by the EU is unacceptable (nor indeed possible given the parliamentary arithmetic).

    The eurozone took itself to the brink last night, and we will only know for certain later whether its reputation and cohesion can survive this.

    The big powers of Europe demonstrated an appetite to change the micro-laws of a smaller country: its bakery regulations, the funding of its state TV service, what can be privatised and how. Whether inside or outside the euro, many small countries and regions will draw long-term negative lessons from this. And from the apparently cavalier throwing of a last-minute Grexit option into the mix by Germany, in defiance of half the government’s own MPs.

    It would be logical now for every country in the EU to make contingency plans against getting the same treatment – either over fiscal policy or any of the other issues where Brussels and Frankfurt enjoy sovereignty.

    Parallels abound with other historic debacles: Munich (1938), where peace was won by sacrificing the Czechs; or Versailles (1919), where the creditors got their money, only to create the conditions for the collapse of German democracy 10 years later, and their own diplomatic unity long before that.

    But the debacles of yesteryear were different. They were committed by statesmen. People who knew what they wanted and miscalculated. It was hard to see last night what the rulers of Europe wanted.

    What they’ve arguably got is a global reputational disaster: the crushing of a left-wing government elected on a landslide, the flouting of a 61 per cent referendum result. The EU – a project founded to avoid conflict and deliver social justice – found itself transformed into the conveyor of relentless financial logic and nothing else.

    Ordinary people don’t know enough about the financial logic to understand why this was always likely to happen: bonds, haircuts and currency mechanisms are distant concepts. Democracy is not. Everybody on earth with a smartphone understands what happened to democracy last night.


  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #206 - July 13, 2015, 11:36 AM

    Varoufakis speaks out...

    In his first interview since resigning, Greece's former Finance Minister says the Eurogroup is “completely and utterly” controlled by Germany, Greece was “set up” and last week’s referendum was wasted
    Quote
    ....
    He said he spent the past month warning the Greek cabinet that the ECB would close Greece’s banks to force a deal. When they did, he was prepared to do three things: issue euro-denominated IOUs; apply a “haircut” to the bonds Greek issued to the ECB in 2012, reducing Greece’s debt; and seize control of the Bank of Greece from the ECB.

    None of the moves would constitute a Grexit but they would have threatened it. Varoufakis was confident that Greece could not be expelled by the Eurogroup; there is no legal provision for such a move. But only by making Grexit possible could Greece win a better deal. And Varoufakis thought the referendum offered Syriza the mandate they needed to strike with such bold moves – or at least to announce them.

    He hinted at this plan on the eve of the referendum, and reports later suggested this was what cost him his job. He offered a clearer explanation.

    As the crowds were celebrating on Sunday night in Syntagma Square, Syriza’s six-strong inner cabinet held a critical vote. By four votes to two, Varoufakis failed to win support for his plan, and couldn’t convince Tsipras. He had wanted to enact his “triptych” of measures earlier in the week, when the ECB first forced Greek banks to shut. Sunday night was his final attempt. When he lost his departure was inevitable.

     “That very night the government decided that the will of the people, this resounding ‘No’, should not be what energised the energetic approach [his plan]. Instead it should lead to major concessions to the other side: the meeting of the council of political leaders, with our Prime Minister accepting the premise that whatever happens, whatever the other side does, we will never respond in any way that challenges them. And essentially that means folding. … You cease to negotiate.”

    Varoufakis’s resignation brought an end to a four-and-a-half year partnership with Tsipras, a man he met for the first time in late 2010. An aide to Tsipras had sought him out after his criticisms of George Papandreou’s government, which accepted the first Troika bailout in 2010.

     “He [Tsipras] wasn’t clear back then what his views were, on the drachma versus the euro, on the causes of the crises, and I had very, well shall I say, ‘set views’ on what was going on. A dialogue begun … I believe that I helped shape his views of what should be done.”

    And yet Tsipras diverged from him at the last. He understands why. Varoufakis could not guarantee that a Grexit would work. After Syriza took power in January, a small team had, “in theory, on paper,” been thinking through how it might. But he said that, “I’m not sure we would manage it, because managing the collapse of a monetary union takes a great deal of expertise, and I’m not sure we have it here in Greece without the help of outsiders.”
    ....

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #207 - July 13, 2015, 11:59 AM

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=RYEGZz7IVO0
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #208 - July 13, 2015, 04:56 PM

    If anyone is interested and still following this thread then do listen to this Australian radio interview.

    Yanis Varoufakis on Greek crisis on Late Night Live
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #209 - July 13, 2015, 05:13 PM

    Alex Andreou defending the decisions of Tsipras. I can't say I'm convinced but he's probably speaking for a lot of Greeks at the moment: We apologise to Marxists worldwide for Greece refusing to commit ritual suicide to further the cause

    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard sums up the deal: Greece is being treated like a hostile occupied state

    Marianna Mazzucato: Greece and the EU: a macro and micro mess-up

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