Which is the 'real' Islam?
Reply #8 - January 29, 2015, 03:39 PM
to me, it's pretty clear. for a thousand years, muslims didn't have a problem with slavery, sex with kids, beating women, jihad al talab, imposing jizya, killing apostates, killing those who insult the prophet, etc. all the scholars were mostly unanimous in their rulings.
suddenly, the west comes in contact with muslims with their "human rights" and their "humanistic" ideals which came from the enlightenment. then we start seeing this claim that "oh, that's not the real Islam" coming from Muslims. even though such doctrines have been agreed upon for more than a thousand years.
to me, coming from a sunni background, to establish what islam really teaches, you go back to the Koran, the sunnah, the salaf, and the ijma of the scholars. and strangely enough, these sources agree that islam does allow/call for slavery, sex with kids, beating women, jihad al talab, imposing jizya, killing apostates, killing those who insult the prophet, etc.
so yeah, if we go back to the sources, I bet that you'll find that Allah is more pleased with people in daish than these "moderate" muslims.
also, the "to kill one man" is not ruling on muslims, it's a quote from the Talmud which the author of the quran mistakenly taught that it was Allah's command on the Israelites. muslims aren't bound by the ruling.
"we stand firm calling to allah all the time,
we let them know - bang! bang! - coz it's dawah time!"