Noah's Ark is Plagiarized. Here's how we know ...

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OP - January 26, 2015, 10:36 AM

I just saw this video from Alley on Youtube. It shows how old the story of Noah's Ark is.

@Jedi: don't watch it! Especially the first part might offend you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_um69RqBpSw
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Reply #1 - January 26, 2015, 12:10 PM

What would happen to holy texts if they were subjected to standard plagiarisation tests?

When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.

A.A. Milne,

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Reply #2 - January 26, 2015, 12:26 PM

if anything in Islam appears prior to Islam, it is because Allah sent a messenger to every nation.
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Reply #3 - January 26, 2015, 12:49 PM

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Quote from: moi on January 26, 2015, 12:10 PM
Q: What would happen to holy texts if they were subjected to standard plagiarisation tests?

Quote from: dr_sloth on January 26, 2015, 12:26 PM
Ans: if anything in Islam appears prior to Islam, it is because Allah sent a messenger to every nation.

Oh boy Q & A made me laugh loud...

yes... dr. sloth... yes you are absolutely right. That is written in scriptures..

allah plagiarized allah's previous texts., And allah does that through human beings that are evolved from monkeys but still have monkey brain and monkey thoughts..

Mock them and move on..

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Reply #4 - January 26, 2015, 03:51 PM

Yeah, the same as all other films made before Star Wars, are actually plagiarizing Star Wars
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Reply #5 - January 26, 2015, 04:44 PM

Has anyone proposed mohammed invented a time machine?

When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.

A.A. Milne,

"We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
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Reply #6 - January 26, 2015, 05:11 PM

Quote from: moi on January 26, 2015, 04:44 PM
Has anyone proposed mohammed invented a time machine?

moi .. let me tell you a open secret ..

The secret of Islam is that THERE WAS NO Muhammad whose stories are described/told in Islam
The secret of Christianity is that THERE WAS NO Christ whose stories are described/told in Christianity
The secret of Judaism is that THERE WAS NO Moses whose stories are described/told in Judaism...and..and..
The secret of every religion is that THERE WAS NO god that gave scriptures to any man, any prophet of any religion

And the secret of every religion is there was/is no god, no invisible man who is watching all the people of all the religions all the animal of this planet and controls the motion of all these billions of planets in billions of galaxies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPOfurmrjxo

brainless bums..

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Reply #7 - January 26, 2015, 05:19 PM

The earlier flood myths (Gilgamesh and atra hasis) made a lot more sense than the Noah story in my opinion. They involved the other gods criticizing the god who started the flood as being irresponsible and reckless. This irresponsible god realized he had made a mistake and regretted it. This obviously makes more sense than the all knowing all wise monotheistic god regretting his decision to wipe everyone out. Also It was another god from the one who started the flood that told utnapishtim to build the ark so you avoid the absurdity of having a god want to wipe out the human race just to start the same process again with a family who was going to produce fuck ups again.

Both stories are obviously fiction but I think the earlier ones make far more sense as allegories and are better stories

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Reply #8 - January 26, 2015, 05:53 PM

Quote from: justperusing on January 26, 2015, 05:19 PM
The earlier flood myths (Gilgamesh and atra hasis) made a lot more sense than the Noah story in my opinion.....
Both stories are obviously fiction but I think the earlier ones make far more sense as allegories and are better stories

well justperusing, to me THIS STORY makes better sense, gives better morals than those two stories and many other stories from different religious scriptures..

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Reply #9 - January 26, 2015, 06:06 PM

Quote from: justperusing on January 26, 2015, 05:19 PM
The earlier flood myths (Gilgamesh and atra hasis) made a lot more sense than the Noah story in my opinion. They involved the other gods criticizing the god who started the flood as being irresponsible and reckless. This irresponsible god realized he had made a mistake and regretted it. This obviously makes more sense than the all knowing all wise monotheistic god regretting his decision to wipe everyone out. Also It was another god from the one who started the flood that told utnapishtim to build the ark so you avoid the absurdity of having a god want to wipe out the human race just to start the same process again with a family who was going to produce fuck ups again.

Both stories are obviously fiction but I think the earlier ones make far more sense as allegories and are better stories

Yes, this story is really better.
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Reply #10 - January 28, 2015, 12:22 AM

Irving Finkel, 'The Ark Before Noah' offers one theory on the origins of Noah's Ark. He says in the Mesopotamian version it was a coracle like the Marsh-Arabs use. That's the subtext of the Torah so, the Torah likely had its legend from the Mesopotamians.

There are lots of other Flood legends (Peter Watson, 'The Great Divide' deals with several), but if it's got a coracle then it is Mesopotamian.
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