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OP - January 25, 2015, 03:17 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/25/world/middleeast/egypt-woman-is-killed-in-peaceful-cairo-protest.html?_r=1&referrer

A woman was killed on Saturday in Cairo after the police fired shotgun pellets at a handful of socialist activists marching to Tahrir Square with flowers to commemorate the hundreds of demonstrators killed there...

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Reply #1 - January 25, 2015, 04:47 PM

Quote from: three on January 25, 2015, 03:17 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/25/world/middleeast/egypt-woman-is-killed-in-peaceful-cairo-protest.html?_r=1&referrer

A woman was killed on Saturday in Cairo after the police fired shotgun pellets at a handful of socialist activists marching to Tahrir Square with flowers to commemorate the hundreds of demonstrators killed there...

That is Sisi totalitarian regime of Egypt which is propped and supported by west with the support of Israel. liberal socilaist women's activist Shaimaa Sabbagh, who was carrying flowers to Tahrir Square gets shot by these Robotic brutal security forces that have masked faces..

sure she was targeted by some Brutal Bastards either it is from regime or other crooks of Egyptian politics.. This is outright daylight targeted political murder..

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Reply #2 - January 25, 2015, 04:59 PM

Shaimaa Sabbagh, life can not be forgotten., Egyptians must stand up and get to the bottom of this day light murder

This is what Egyptian News says on that murder...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=84503534&v=LJ7GBPxTOWM&x-yt-ts=1421914688#t=47

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Shaimaa Al-Sabagh a 32-year-old socialist activist was shot dead on the eve of the fourth anniversary of Egypt’s January 25 revolution just meters away from Tahrir Square.

Shaimaa and dozens of members of the Socialist Popular Alliance Party (SPAP) had gathered at Talaat Harb with the aim of laying flowers at Tahrir Square, once the symbol of the revolution that attracted millions of youth chanting for bread, liberty and freedom. While social media users and activists have blamed police forces for firing birdshot at Shaimaa, Egypt’s Forensic Authority said this could not be verified.

According to Hisham Abdel Hamid, the spokesperson of the Forensic Authority, Shaimaa was shot from eight meters from behind in her back. The spokesperson added that this birdshot is ‘very common’ and is used by ‘many people,’ and that the Forensic Authority cannot confirm who fired the shots.

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Shaimaa Al-Sabagh a 32-year-old socialist activist was shot dead on the eve of the fourth anniversary of Egypt’s January 25 revolution just meters away from Tahrir Square.

Shaimaa and dozens of members of the Socialist Popular Alliance Party (SPAP) had gathered at Talaat Harb with the aim of laying flowers at Tahrir Square, once the symbol of the revolution that attracted millions of youth chanting for bread, liberty and freedom.

While social media users and activists have blamed police forces for firing birdshot at Shaimaa, Egypt’s Forensic Authority said this could not be verified.

According to Hisham Abdel Hamid, the spokesperson of the Forensic Authority, Shaimaa was shot from eight meters from behind in her back. The spokesperson added that this birdshot is ‘very common’ and is used by ‘many people,’ and that the Forensic Authority cannot confirm who fired the shots.

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Interior Ministry Spokesman Hany Abdel Latif meanwhile said that the gunshots had been fired by a group of other protesters in the area and that they were caught on tape carrying rifles.

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Reply #3 - January 25, 2015, 05:04 PM

Bastards!
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Reply #4 - January 25, 2015, 05:12 PM

I read the news yesterday. So sad. And of course they try to deny it, fucking bastards!

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Reply #5 - January 25, 2015, 05:33 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYgQO8_c_Og

That is how these totalitarian regimes murder folks that are fighting for freedom and freedom of expression with no guns.. no violence but words and pen..

And News from BBC says Egypt: At least 10 killed in protests marking uprising

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At least 10 people have been killed in clashes between police and protesters in eastern Cairo, officials said. One policeman was among the dead and dozens of protesters were also injured, health officials confirmed.

The clashes follow the death of an activist in a march in Cairo on Saturday. The protests were staged to mark the fourth anniversary of Egypt's 2011 uprising, which toppled long-time leader Hosni Mubarak.

Security in major cities was tightened ahead of the anniversary, and key locations in Cairo were blocked off. Dozens of people were killed in similar protests last year. The police officer was killed during protests in Cairo, the interior ministry said, while protesters were killed in Cairo and the northern city of Alexandria.

Police said two militants were also killed as they tried to plant an explosive device in the Nile Delta. On Saturday, activist Shaimaa al-Sabbagh was shot dead during a march by the socialist Popular Alliance party in central Cairo.

The party blamed police for her death. She was buried amid angry scenes in the northern city of Alexandria on Sunday. Prosecutors have launched an investigation into her death. Since ousting the elected president Mohammed Morsi in July 2013, the new Egyptian authorities have cracked down on political dissent.

Supporters and mourners of Shaimaa al-Sabbagh in Alexandria after she was shot during a march on Saturday.. Hope this tragedy will not go back to Islamist verse regime ...but people will fight for their political rights Out of Islamic parties and that brothelhood of Egypt..

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Reply #6 - January 25, 2015, 05:34 PM

Not rising up against Al Sisi would render the two previous revolutions meaningless. Fascism does seem to have many faces in Egypt, and I worry that there will be some Brotherhood-sympathizers who'd try to argue that Muhammed Morsi wasn't one of them and that his dismissal was illegitimate.

Feel sorry for the Egyptians. Obedience didn't work, as it never does. Now it seems revolution doesn't either.

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Reply #7 - January 25, 2015, 07:00 PM

TWO IDIOTS HAMZA HENDAWI and SARAH EL DEEB, Associated Press of AMRIKA says

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Egypt launches massive security crackdown on 2011 uprising anniversary, clashes leave 13 dead

CAIRO (AP) — Supporters of Egypt's ousted Islamist President fought street battles with police in Cairo and other cities on Sunday, the fourth anniversary of the country's 2011 uprising, as clashes left 13 people dead and dozens injured. Another two people died when an explosive device they were planting under a high-voltage tower in the Nile Delta exploded prematurely, security officials said.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6NI0o6_BaM

JUST A WARNING THAT TUBE APPEARS TO HAVE LOT OF BLOOD SHED ..

DAMMIT THEY WERE NOT ISLAMISTS.. that is propaganda for western readers.. they were neutral to religion

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Reply #8 - January 25, 2015, 07:45 PM

18 dead according to Mada Masr

http://www.madamasr.com/news/update-18-dead-52-injured-january-25-anniversary

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Reply #9 - January 26, 2015, 09:21 AM

Chinese state propaganda has been busy using Egypt to tell its people that democracy is bad for them - "See what happen to Egypt when they want democracy."
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Reply #10 - January 26, 2015, 01:30 PM

Ahh I really sympathise Egypt.
Military rule / dictatorship before 2011 revolution.
The 2011 revolution was hijacked by MostLame Brotherhood.
The 2013 revolution was hijacked by another military rule.

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Reply #11 - January 26, 2015, 02:32 PM

Quote from: Minimow on January 25, 2015, 05:34 PM
Not rising up against Al Sisi would render the two previous revolutions meaningless. Fascism does seem to have many faces in Egypt, and I worry that there will be some Brotherhood-sympathizers who'd try to argue that Muhammed Morsi wasn't one of them and that his dismissal was illegitimate.

Feel sorry for the Egyptians. Obedience didn't work, as it never does. Now it seems revolution doesn't either.

Rising up against Al Sisi is stupid also. It won't bring democracy for sure.

Quote from: yeezevee on January 25, 2015, 04:47 PM
That is Sisi totalitarian regime of Egypt which is propped and supported by west with the support of Israel. liberal socilaist women's activist Shaimaa Sabbagh, who was carrying flowers to Tahrir Square gets shot by these Robotic brutal security forces that have masked faces..

sure she was targeted by some Brutal Bastards either it is from regime or other crooks of Egyptian politics.. This is outright daylight targeted political murder..

What else West should/can support? What else will be better there, than a military regime, really?

On the other hand, shooting liberal socialists is idiotic at least, from the regime perspective as well. These peoples don't do much trouble and let them have their way a little bit, will do only good for Al Sisi regime propaganda. At least arrest them for a couple of days. Well a regime is a regime, so hoping for rationality is to much I suppose...

Hope liberals will learn from this and stay safe home. There is no much they can to there. Sad buth truth...
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Reply #12 - January 26, 2015, 05:37 PM

When it comes to Sharia, there's alot of similarities between Sisi/military and the Muslim Brotherhood. The mistake people make is that they believe that Egypt is secular. Egypt has all the Sharia that the Muslim Brotherhood would be satisified with. The choice is between a strong military government that will apply Islamic law and a weak civil government under an autocratic religious group, with Islamic law. The main difference is that if Sisi stays, support for Sharia will likely remain the same, while the failure of the Muslim Brotherhood would risk undermining support for Sharia.
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Reply #13 - January 28, 2015, 03:30 AM

Killing of Protester Prompts Rare Criticism From Egyptian State Newspaper

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The killing of Shaimaa al-Sabbagh, a peaceful protester whose body was riddled with shotgun pellets on Saturday in Cairo, was condemned in an unusually frank editorial published Monday on the front page of Al Ahram, the flagship state newspaper in Egypt, and signed by its chairman, Ahmed Sayed el-Naggar.

Ms. Sabbagh was shot in front of witnesses and the cameras of several journalists when police officers suddenly fired at marchers carrying flowers to Tahrir Square to mark the fourth anniversary of Egypt’s Arab Spring uprising. Images of the attack on the protest, and of Ms. Sabbagh’s colleagues trying to evade arrest to save her, reverberated online, transforming the 32-year-old mother’s death into a new symbol of police impunity.

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The burden of ensuring that justice is served by prosecuting Ms. Sabbagh’s killer, Mr. Naggar added, “rests on the shoulders” of President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, who was elected to protect Egyptians “from the abuse of power.”

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Reply #14 - March 17, 2015, 03:29 PM

Egypt policeman to stand trial over protester death.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31922142
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Reply #15 - March 17, 2015, 04:05 PM

It sounds unlikely he'll be convicted though.

http://www.madamasr.com/news/prosecutor-general-police-officer-charged-murder-shaimaa-al-sabbagh
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Prosecutor General Hesham Barakat referred a Central Security Forces police officer to criminal prosecution after he was charged with “beating to death” activist Shaimaa al-Sabbagh, state television reported on Tuesday.

Sabbagh was killed during a peaceful march in downtown Cairo on the eve of the fourth anniversary of the January 25 Revolution.

Since the officer was referred to trial for “beating leading to death,” he could be found innocent on procedural grounds, Yasmine Hossam al-Din, a lawyer following the investigations into Sabbagh’s death, told Mada Masr.

Hossam al-Din explained, “this charge is inconsistent with the technical evidence and the autopsy report, which show that Sabbagh was killed by a direct gunshot wound and was not beaten.”

The New York based Human Rights watch released a report following Sabbagh’s death, in which they used video evidence along with four eyewitness testimonies to reconstruct events.

According to HRW, “the evidence clearly shows a uniformed police officer apparently directing a masked man, who fires a shotgun toward a group of about two dozen peaceful protesters whom police were dispersing from Talaat Harb Square. Shaimaa al-Sabbagh, 32, is seen immediately falling to the ground following the shot. She died later from what medical authorities described as ‘Birdshot injuries’.”

The Forensic Medical Authority released an autopsy report showing that she was killed by Birdshot, sustaining wounds in the back that punctured her lungs and heart.

Hossam al-Din said, “there should have been two options: either he should have been charged with involuntary manslaughter and in that case it should be proven that the officer hit the victim without targeting her, or he should have been charged with murder with intent and then evidence should show he targeted her deliberately.”

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Reply #16 - March 17, 2015, 04:11 PM

Pathetic.
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Reply #17 - March 17, 2015, 04:21 PM

Quote from: zeca on March 17, 2015, 04:05 PM
It sounds unlikely he'll be convicted though.

http://www.madamasr.com/news/prosecutor-general-police-officer-charged-murder-shaimaa-al-sabbagh

Prosecutor General Hesham Barakat referred a Central Security Forces police officer to criminal prosecution after he was charged with “beating to death” activist Shaimaa al-Sabbagh, state television reported on Tuesday.

what beating to death?? Shaimaa was shot dead by a brutal rogue that hide beyond his face mask and that Pathetic idiot Prosecutor General Hesham Barakat gives such deliberate twist in the murder case of Shaimaa al-Sabbagh.

These scoundrels who hide their faces, hide beyond police/security forces to kill people like Shaimaa are WORSE than Islamic Jihadis. This criminal Hesham Barakat along with those sisi scoundrels who support such deliberate twist in her murder should be put in jail..

This is the fucking problem in totalitarian regimes that rule nations in the name of Islam.. without these DICK TRAITORS people like

wonderful Shaimaa could have been in the forefront of Egypt politics to get that nation out of the mess rascals created for the past 50 years..

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Reply #18 - March 23, 2015, 07:14 PM

Shaimaa el-Sabbagh Was Too Thin that is why Died in Shooting

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On Saturday, though, the spokesman for the Medical Forensics Authority said in a television interview that Ms. Sabbagh, 31, would not have died had she not been so slender.

“Shaimaa el-Sabbagh, according to science, should not have died,” the spokesman, Hisham Abdel Hamid, said, calling it “a very rare case.”

“Her body was like skin over bone, as they say,” he said. “She was very thin. She did not have any percentage of fat. So the small pellets penetrated very easily, and four or five out of all the pellets that penetrated her body — these four or five pellets were able to penetrate her heart and lungs, and these are the ones that caused her death.”

That is the theory of IDIOTS in Egypt under Sisi..

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Reply #19 - March 23, 2015, 07:35 PM

So she died cause she wasn't 'traditional build' enough to resist perfectly okay use of firearms and not due to being shot at? Right ... ? I will remember that when I am wanting to scare a slender person, as well as escalating use of firearms if someone is fat!
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Reply #20 - March 23, 2015, 07:48 PM

Quote from: yeezevee on March 23, 2015, 07:14 PM
Shaimaa el-Sabbagh Was Too Thin that is why Died in Shooting

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That is the theory of IDIOTS in Egypt under Sisi..

Just when I think the Egyptian authorities cannot get more insanely absurd, I am proven wrong, again.
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