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  • Allahu Akbar' attacker shot by French police
     OP - December 21, 2014, 02:42 AM
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    Police in central France have shot dead a man who attacked them with a knife while shouting "God is great!" in Arabic, French media report.

    The man injured three police officers at Joue-les-Tours police station near the city of Tours before he was shot.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30563920

    I have no hope for Muslims of ever reforming in my lifetime. At this point I just can't tolerate anymore reading about yet another Muslim fanatic in the world killing someone because they are brainwashed by religion. It just sickening.
  • Allahu Akbar' attacker shot by French police
     Reply #1 - December 21, 2014, 11:05 AM
    Or are they "mad"?

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    Symptoms of Religious Trauma Syndrome:

    • Cognitive: Confusion, poor critical thinking ability, negative beliefs about self-ability & self-worth, black & white thinking, perfectionism, difficulty with decision-making

    • Emotional: Depression, anxiety, anger, grief, loneliness, difficulty with pleasure, loss of meaning

    • Social: Loss of social network, family rupture, social awkwardness, sexual difficulty, behind schedule on developmental tasks

    • Cultural: Unfamiliarity with secular world; “fish out of water” feelings, difficulty belonging, information gaps (e.g. evolution, modern art, music)

    Causes of Religious Trauma Syndrome:

    Authoritarianism coupled with toxic theology which is received and reinforced at church, school, and home results in:

    • Suppression of normal child development - cognitive, social, emotional, moral stages are arrested

    • Damage to normal thinking and feeling abilities -information is limited and controlled; dysfunctional beliefs taught; independent thinking condemned; feelings condemned

    • External locus of control – knowledge is revealed, not discovered; hierarchy of authority enforced; self not a reliable or good source

    • Physical and sexual abuse – patriarchal power; unhealthy sexual views; punishment used as for discipline

    Cycle of Abuse

    The doctrines of original sin and eternal damnation cause the most psychological distress by creating the ultimate double bind. You are guilty and responsible, and face eternal punishment. Yet you have no ability to do anything about it.

    You must conform to a mental test of “believing” in an external, unseen source for salvation, and maintain this state of belief until death. You cannot ever stop sinning altogether, so you must continue to confess and be forgiven, hoping that you have met the criteria despite complete lack of feedback about whether you will actually make it to heaven.

    Salvation is not a free gift after all.

    For the sincere believer, this results in an unending cycle of shame and relief. It is a cycle of abuse.



    http://journeyfree.org/rts/

    Maybe the concept needs generalising from xianity to institutionalised ways that cause damage and are damaging.
    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Allahu Akbar' attacker shot by French police
     Reply #2 - December 21, 2014, 11:27 AM
    Wow! Yes, I would say Muslims are definitely suffering from these symptoms, causes and consequences.

  • Allahu Akbar' attacker shot by French police
     Reply #3 - December 21, 2014, 09:53 PM
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    Driver attacks French pedestrians
    21 December 2014 - Last updated at 21:43

    Driver shouting "God is great" in Arabic runs down pedestrians in Dijon, France, injuring 11, French media say


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30571911?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central
  • Allahu Akbar' attacker shot by French police
     Reply #4 - December 21, 2014, 10:17 PM
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    France Dijon: Driver targets city pedestrians
    21 December 2014 - Last updated at 22:05

    A driver shouting "God is great" in Arabic has run down pedestrians in the French city of Dijon, injuring 11, two seriously, French media say.

    He was arrested after targeting pedestrians at a number of locations.

    The suspect is "apparently imbalanced and had been in a psychiatric hospital", a source close to the investigation said.

    French police shot dead a man on Saturday after he attacked them with a knife, also shouting "God is great".


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30571911?ocid=socialflow_twitter

    Why was he not kept in psych hospital?
  • Allahu Akbar' attacker shot by French police
     Reply #5 - December 22, 2014, 10:34 AM
    Quote from: Abu Ali on December 21, 2014, 11:27 AM
    Wow! Yes, I would say Muslims are definitely suffering from these symptoms, causes and consequences.




    Do you want to expand on this?  Or others?  Is RTS a useful way of describing what happens in Islam?
    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
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