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  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #90 - October 25, 2014, 09:03 PM
    he's so persecuted man
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #91 - October 25, 2014, 09:10 PM
    Tonyt's criticisms are bogus. Silly and hyperbolic. They are not worth sticking up for, billy.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #92 - October 25, 2014, 09:23 PM
    I've finally discovered something I disagree with you on Ishina  Grin
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #93 - October 25, 2014, 09:51 PM
    That's it. I'm not sending you a Christmas card now.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #94 - October 25, 2014, 10:00 PM
    we're the Lennon and McCartney of CEMB we need this creative friction
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #95 - October 25, 2014, 10:09 PM
    Hadley Freeman had an enjoyable take on Russell Brand:

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/24/britain-russell-brand-revolution-newsnight
    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #96 - October 26, 2014, 12:25 AM
    Quote from: Mixu Paatelainen on October 25, 2014, 08:32 PM
    He does not claim democracy is flawed because the electorate do not agree with him. He claims democracy is flawed because there is a ruling class who do not represent the people who vote them in, and are more interested in serving the interests of big business. That is a big difference to what you are saying.


    If the majority of people don't think that the party truely represented them, then they would vote for another party next time. There are plenty of options out there, Green Party, Socialist Party, etc. the fact that people do continue to vote for the same big parties each election suggests that they are at least mildy satisfied with how they have been represented.
  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #97 - October 26, 2014, 12:42 AM
    A lot of people vote for the main parties here because they assume to do anything else is to waste a vote and possibly siphon a significant portion of votes in a more organized push from what they consider to be the lesser of two evils.
  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #98 - October 26, 2014, 03:37 AM
    Quote from: Tonyt on October 25, 2014, 06:09 PM
    So if it was up to you Bogart, you would just let IS slaughter all the Yezidis, Assyrians, & Kurds? Thus destroying the last remnants of a plural society in the region. Real nice Bogart.


    If it was up to me I would go in boots on the grounds WW2 style with long term occupation. Militant groups and militias would be eradicated either peacefully or with force. Collateral damage would be high and the media would be suppressed. Iraq would be dismantled into new nations. However the West is weak in the knees when it comes to war these days. We turned a blind eye to Turkey oppressing minorities, heck we invited them to NATO and supplied them with weapons they could never develop on their own. For every group we "save" we damn a different group by supporting people that commit crimes against humanity. Heck Kurdish groups were branded terrorists years ago yet now we are helping the same group since it started flooding into the area.

    Foreign policy is inconsistent and that is a huge issue for me.

  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #99 - October 26, 2014, 03:44 AM
    Quote from: yeezevee on October 25, 2014, 05:11 PM
    Hi bogart., I am just curious here . what is your opinion on  President Putin and what he says   America is trying to break up the world in a new Cold War, says Putin ......  please read the article..


    It has and always be an economic cold war.
  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #100 - October 26, 2014, 10:22 AM
    Quote from: Tonyt on October 26, 2014, 12:25 AM
    If the majority of people don't think that the party truely represented them, then they would vote for another party next time. There are plenty of options out there, Green Party, Socialist Party, etc. the fact that people do continue to vote for the same big parties each election suggests that they are at least mildy satisfied with how they have been represented.


    Labour and Conservative, Democrat and Republican, dominate the political landscape in their respective countries and as a result most people see other parties as a wasted votes. People do not vote for a minority party because there is so little chance of them getting in, they would rather vote for the least bad of the big parties.

    I know so many people who reluctantly voted for Labour in the last general election and I'm sure there are many people who have reluctantly voted for conservative as well.
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #101 - October 26, 2014, 05:35 PM
    Yes but some people DO still vote for those smaller parties, and the more people that vote for them, the more the larger parties will need to change their positions to attract a wider scope. That is how democracy works, it usually gravitates into a two party system naturally as the successful parties try to appeal to a wider and wider electorate. And if they can't do that then they will be replaced by a smaller party that can. Once upon a time Labour itself was a small party, and the two main parties were the Tories and the Liberal party (which no longer exists).
  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #102 - October 26, 2014, 07:09 PM
    So reading reviews of his book, it seems he believes that we need religion and spirituality to be placed at the centre of our society, and that he dislikes atheism and atheists.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #103 - October 26, 2014, 10:15 PM
    From the stuff that he says, it does sound like he is one of those spiritual hippy types.
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #104 - October 26, 2014, 10:34 PM
    Quote from: Tonyt on October 26, 2014, 05:35 PM
    Yes but some people DO still vote for those smaller parties [...]


    I still don't think it's fair to draw the conclusion that those who vote for the primary parties must be at least mildly satisfied with their representation. Even if the tables turn eventually, in the meantime, a lot of people (myself included) have voted for a primary party knowing full well that, at best, to vote for the party I really wanted was a wasted vote.

    Or, at the worst, if a ton of us who normally vote Republican, for example, decide to back a Libertarian candidate, at least the first time around it's more likely that the party we voted for will fail and that the one that we really don't want to see in charge will have an advantage over the Republican party for it. Often, a vote is less a vote for that party and more of one against the one you really want to stick it to.
  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #105 - October 26, 2014, 10:46 PM
    Quote from: Mixu Paatelainen on October 26, 2014, 10:15 PM
    From the stuff that he says, it does sound like he is one of those spiritual hippy types.


    the problem with that is that in a soft minded hippy spiritual kind of way, the door is opened to lots of reactionaries who sneak in on the back of hostility towards secularism

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #106 - October 27, 2014, 01:18 AM
    Did anyone see Match of the Day? Sam Alladyce was being interviewed after West Ham's surprise victory over Man City. Russel Brand barges in and interrupts the interview to give Alladyce a kiss.
  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #107 - October 27, 2014, 11:51 AM
    his book sounds awful. He's an apologist for reactionary religion

    Quote
    The systemic change that means the most to Brand is an embrace of meditation and pantheism. The greatest villain of Revolution is not a super-rich financier but Richard Dawkins. Brand denounces him as a “menopausal” proponent of “atheistic tyranny” because Dawkins denies the existence of the supernatural. He pulls a succession of shabby tricks to bolster his claim that religion does not authorise oppression. Anyone who claims that Jesus, Allah, Krishna or the fountainhead of any other religion endorses homophobia instead of the “union of all mankind” is “on a massive blag”, he says. Brand has to ignore Leviticus’s edict that the punishment for men who sleep with other men is death, St Paul’s hysterics about lesbianism and the hadiths that have Muhammad saying that the punishment for sodomy is death by stoning. In other words, he has to ignore several millennia of real and continuing religious repression, so he can make his spiritualism sound emancipatory rather than cranky.

    Comrades, I am sure I do not need to tell you that no figure in the history of the left has seen Buddhism as a force for human emancipation. If it were, Sri Lanka would be a paradise rather than a site for ethno-religious slaughter. Nor has any revolutionary leader said that atheists will be the revolution’s first target. In our times, only Islamist counter-revolutionaries dream of their suppression.


    http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/oct/27/revolution-review-russell-brand-beverly-hills-buddhist?CMP=twt_gu

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #108 - October 27, 2014, 12:06 PM
    Quote from: billy on October 27, 2014, 11:51 AM
    his book sounds awful. He's an apologist for reactionary religion

    http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/oct/27/revolution-review-russell-brand-beverly-hills-buddhist?CMP=twt_gu

    Well then  He is a perfect Prime Ministerial material   for England., And he  could partner with THAT CAT to form a new party for next elections.. And..and after winning He can put Dawkin's type of British folks where they belong...... The Jail....
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #109 - October 27, 2014, 12:21 PM
    Quote
    In an unintentionally revealing moment, Brand describes attending a trade union march against austerity. He complains that the protesters are not like Islamic State terrorists but “flaccid” and placid. He has a case. For all its many faults, the British left does not imitate Isis. It does not commit genocide and practise sexual slavery. Its “revolution”, when and if it comes, will consist of boring, gradual attempts to restrain an economic system that is running amok. Russell Brand will want no part of its tedious reforms and will go off in search of bigger thrills.


    http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/oct/27/revolution-review-russell-brand-beverly-hills-buddhist?CMP=twt_gu
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #110 - October 27, 2014, 01:33 PM
    Here it is:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAU6u37ius4

    Is this a spontaneous incident or calculated self publicity? Or a bit of both?

    If he was really a friend of Allardyce and wanted to congratulate him, surely he could have chosen a more appropriate moment.
  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #111 - October 27, 2014, 02:09 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on October 27, 2014, 12:06 PM
    Well then  He is a perfect Prime Ministerial material   for England., And he  could partner with THAT CAT to form a new party for next elections.. And..and after winning He can put Dawkin's type of British folks where they belong...... The Jail....

    Dawkins lol,  what did Dawkins ever do to harm anyone?
  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #112 - October 27, 2014, 10:54 PM
    Although I agree with what Russell Brand says about the economic and political system, and the failure of democracy, I do think that he is a bit wishy washy about religion. I think he sees religion as individual faith for individual people rather than a mass political movement. Also I do agree that there is no real solution to the problems of our governments in his politics.

    I will have to read the book - all of the reviews on this book that I have read, both positive and negative, seem to be using snippets from the book to support the reviewers opinion on Brand.

    Quote
    Dawkins lol,  what did Dawkins ever do to harm anyone?


    Dawkins is a 'orrible racist, sexist cunt lol
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #113 - October 27, 2014, 10:56 PM
    Brand is a gobshite
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #114 - October 27, 2014, 10:59 PM
    Quote from: Doubting Tomas on October 27, 2014, 02:09 PM
    Dawkins lol,  what did Dawkins ever do to harm anyone?

    He told people they don't have to be sheep.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #115 - October 27, 2014, 11:02 PM
    Quote from: billy on October 27, 2014, 10:56 PM
    Brand is a gobshite


    Steven Gerrard is a bellend
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #116 - October 27, 2014, 11:06 PM
    the King of Dawah on Brand and Owen Jones  Grin

    http://kingofdawah.tumblr.com/post/100754490408/an-evening-with-russell-brand-and-owen-jones
     
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #117 - October 27, 2014, 11:17 PM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on October 27, 2014, 10:59 PM
    He told people they don't have to be sheep.

    Hardly a capital offence, maybe damaging to certain institutions but not to the individual them self.
  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #118 - October 27, 2014, 11:33 PM
    I've been re-reading Thomas Paine recently. A true revolutionary who participated in the debates on the French and American revolution, supported them both in the face of personal cost, wrote of natural laws and the need for the uprising of the people when their natural rights are violated. What a great man. He also wrote some of the most radical critiques of religion ever penned. He realised that revolutionary spirit couldn't be sequestered from religion and its authority. Clericalism is oppressive. How insipid of a self declared revolutionary today to say religion must be protected and in fact religion has to be placed central to the 'revolution'. This isn't revolution, its reactionary privilege in disguise.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Russell Brand.
     Reply #119 - October 28, 2014, 12:24 AM
    Quote from: Doubting Tomas on October 27, 2014, 11:17 PM
    Hardly a capital offence, maybe damaging to certain institutions but not to the individual them self.

    Hopefully certain countries will come to this opinion.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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