If the Qu'ran isn't arranged in the order it was 'revealed'

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OP - July 22, 2014, 12:28 PM

Which to me, is a statement claimed by every single Muslim with a decent-enough knowledge of Islam.

Isn't that unambiguous proof of it being 'tampered with'?

Or is Allah like Quentin tarantino and likes to time jump with his scripts

Am I missing something?
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Reply #1 - July 22, 2014, 12:39 PM

Thing is that fact alone debunks the whole thing cause if people shifted orders around of verses and also some stuff was apparently lost then it means that the thing got processed through men who were imperfect, not the prophet and not god. This means that any amount of it could have been switched around, conveniently 'reworded', changed etcetera dependant on how powerful those 'in the know' were.

It makes Islam a self-contradictory fallacy.
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Reply #2 - July 22, 2014, 12:39 PM

Quote from: Gunner on July 22, 2014, 12:28 PM

Or is Allah like Quentin tarantino and likes to time jump with his scripts

haha, nice one

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Reply #3 - July 22, 2014, 01:30 PM

Quote from: Gunner on July 22, 2014, 12:28 PM
Which to me, is a statement claimed by every single Muslim with a decent-enough knowledge of Islam.

Isn't that unambiguous proof of it being 'tampered with'?

Or is Allah like Quentin tarantino and likes to time jump with his scripts

Am I missing something?

The Muslim argument will go something like this:

The Qur'an came down often in response to events at the time, but was placed in a different order - by divine inspiration of course - before Muhammad died as this was the order that God - in His wisdom Most High and Big is He - wanted it to be.

There are hadith about Gabriel coming every Ramadan, to go over what had been revealed so far and put it in the order God wanted it to be in - a sort of divine Final Cut
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Reply #4 - July 22, 2014, 02:07 PM

Seriously - Hadith go a freaking way!
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Reply #5 - July 22, 2014, 05:59 PM

But as Gabby is not the Director, why accept an editor's version and not the director's cut?

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Reply #6 - July 22, 2014, 06:04 PM

"You got to take it on faith." "God works in mysterious mysterious ways."
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Reply #7 - July 22, 2014, 07:07 PM

Gabby does nothing without the Boss giving the green light. Angels have no freewill.
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