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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2160 - July 02, 2015, 12:08 PM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on June 30, 2015, 08:04 AM
    Vaginal discrimination. finmad


    No..no you are different type  QSE..  You had virgin birth .., you were a test tube baby.. you just don't know that.. lol..   but look at that sad news  from that Islamic Shit of Imbecile Louts (ISIL)

    In first, Daesh beheads 2 Syrian women for ‘sorcery’

    Quote
    Arab News.com: Daesh militants have beheaded two women in eastern Syria accused of “witchcraft and sorcery,” a monitor said Tuesday, in the group's first decapitations of female civilians.

    “The Islamic State group executed two women by beheading them in Deir Ezzor province, and this is the first time the Observatory has documented women being killed by the group in this manner,” Syrian Observatory for Human Rights chief Rami Abdel Rahman said.

    The Britain-based monitor said the executions took place on Monday and Sunday and involved two couples. In both cases, the women were executed with their husbands, with each pair accused of “witchcraft and sorcery.

    Look at that news.. Look at  these Idiots from fucking Sand land., they  have no shame of reporting that shit as the scoundrel "the rulers and Judges "  in that fucking sand land routinely BEHEAD WOMEN IN PUBLIC . And they say this ISIL shit is bad..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2161 - July 04, 2015, 01:12 AM
    Her War: Women vs. ISIS (RT Documentary)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqI0a4VgEs8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O57eDDf_blU
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2162 - July 04, 2015, 09:52 AM
    Statement from the Mannan family: http://justpaste.it/m4sy
    Which side are you on?
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2163 - July 04, 2015, 11:04 AM
    Quote from: zeca on July 04, 2015, 09:52 AM
    Statement from the Mannan family: http://justpaste.it/m4sy

     Mannan family  ...Mannan.....Mannan....   Pakistan to London to ISIL..ISIS... whatever..  well no one should stop people going there  but coming back to London should not be an option.....



    The group which claims to have entered Syria include (pictured from left to right standing) Rajia Khanom, Mohammed Toufique Hussain, Mohammed Saleh Hussain, Roshanara Begum, Sheida Khanam.  From left to right sitting: Muhammed Abdul Mannan, Minera Khatun



    Missing: Mohammed Abil Kashem Saker, 31     .. May be that Mohammed Abil Kashem Saker is Caliph-2 or Calipha 3 in line .. Sure Killers of so-called ISIS in Iraq & Syria are filed with Sons of  Land of Pure or other parts of Indian subcontinent Islamic heroes whose family may have moved to  London or form Pakistan or from Saudi Arabia ..  

     
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2164 - July 13, 2015, 06:47 PM
    Reports in press today that they blew up a baby , as part of a training exercise on how to strap explosives to people. Apparently they'd already executed the baby's father, god knows what they've done with the mother
       I know part of their strategy is to deliberately shock , but all the same I think these people have become seriously deranged They're out there in their own little kingdom with no constraints , it's like they're just sitting round like a gang of teenage psychopaths who've smoked too much skunk , daring each other to outdo the previous atrocity . . . Lord of the Flies with scripture
      I feel sorry for the families of the people who've gone out there (well , some of them ) but I don't think we should let any of these people back in the country , they've abandoned humanity
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2165 - July 14, 2015, 03:41 AM
    I just read the words "they blew up a baby". I don't know how to react. Here's some links for people. I haven't read them yet. Too fucking sober to read about this shit.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-blown-up-baby-terror-6059342

    http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/07/12/420003/Iraq-ISIL-Sharqat-Diyala-Sadiq-alHusseini-boobytrapping

    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/453602/ISIS-blow-up-baby-sick-training-exercise-booby-trap-child

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/590846/Islamic-State-militants-set-fire-BABY-sickening-training-exercise

    http://www.ibtimes.co.in/isis-uses-baby-booby-trap-training-blows-infant-says-iraqi-official-638998
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2166 - July 15, 2015, 02:23 PM
    ISIS is winning hearts and minds  says  businessinsider.com

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=53&v=e6YOcdBEGe0

    well what is wrong with that??...  It is all propaganda.. you guys do it.. they do it..  it  is for onlookers and readers that have to figure out the truth from news, web from all sides...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN3ktXbLzlY

    And that was John CantlieReport From Mosul Iraq


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcew3qmidRI

    and this is John Cantlie on Sep 18, 2014
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2167 - July 15, 2015, 03:36 PM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=146&v=WSDPCKY08AI

    "God  bless you all".. Says that old lady... I smile at people who say those words...    Well,  I can not and will not say this to believers of god..  but I say  here with reversing the letters in that word god...

    A dog... Dog would have helped many people did help many people in very difficult times... this god did nothing to any one.. .. zero..zippo since man started walking on two leg...........trust me on that friends.. trust me

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2168 - July 19, 2015, 02:25 PM
    UK will help destroy Islamic State, David Cameron tells US    Says BBC News


    Quote
    Britain is committed to working with the US to destroy the "caliphate" set up by Islamic State militants in Iraq and Syria, the prime minister has said. David Cameron told US TV network NBC he wanted the UK to do more but said he needed to "take Parliament with him".

    MPs voted against proposed military action in Syria two years ago. Lord Richards, former chief of defence staff, called for a new strategy to defeat IS, saying he suspected ground troops would be deployed in the future.

    Mr Cameron is due to use a speech on Monday to warn young Britons tempted to join IS fighters they will end up as little more than "cannon fodder".  
    Quote
    "If you are a boy, they will brainwash you, strap bombs to your body and blow you up. If you are a girl, they will enslave and abuse you,"

    he will say.


    Interesting  Well apparently That is what David Cameron is going to say about ISIS ISIL IS whatever..    But if I wonder if AMRIKA doesn't do anything .. then what??


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tUv3SGVCNM


    David Cameron 'I Wish The BBC Would Stop Calling It Islamic State'

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnF7Wd4xbYo


    well David Cameron  says something ISIS and Tom Holland answers what name people should use to that ISIS so Mr. Cameron   should listen to Tom Holland

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpNpM1Komkk
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2169 - August 08, 2015, 01:13 AM
    Meet ISIS-chan.



    Anime nerds trying to Google bomb ISIS

    Quote
    This ISIS-chan. And she's how nerds around the world are trying to silence violent ISIS terrorist propaganda.

    It starts with the vibrant worldwide community that loves Japanese anime. Some of them have created a cute animated character as a sort of ISIS mascot.

    The goal? Hijack the terrorist group's message and replace it with a girl that's oh-so-adorable.
    Right now, if you search online for the term "ISIS," you'll be pelted with images of intimidating thugs murdering innocent people and waving AK-47s and black flags.
    Anti-ISIS activists want to reverse that, so that when you search for "ISIS," you get this cute girl instead. To achieve that, activists have put out an open call to everyone around the world who can doodle.
    It's essentially a "Google bomb," a war of attrition where images are ammunition and "search engine optimization" is the rule of engagement.
    "The World Wide Web is our battlefield," the group told CNNMoney on Thursday. "We want to change the meaning of the term 'ISIS'."
    ISIS-chan wears the terrorist group's black clothing. She has green eyes and dark hair. She's 19. And if she's holding a knife, it's only because she loves to slice and eat delicious melons.

    But winning the SEO war is a monumental challenge. Although Google (GOOGL, Tech30) keeps secret its algorithm that determines what ranks high on search results, the basic rule is: the more popular the image, the higher it shows up online.
    ISIS-chan first appeared on Japanese websites earlier this year, so it's most popular there. But even on Japan's version of Google, a search for "ISIS" yields 334 photos of beheadings and crucifixions before you see a single image of ISIS-chan.
    It's only in the last few weeks that ISIS-chan has begun to catch on in Europe and the Americas. One recent drawing was done by someone who told CNNMoney he's a high school student in the Midwest.

    "I disagree with ISIS and its methods, and I like anime, so when I heard about this, I just decided to contribute," he said.

    Other images range from simple sketches...

    ...to well-crafted drawings.

    The group said it has tallied more than 3,000 original images from an unknown number of supporters -- mostly in Asia.
    CNNMoney talked to several activists involved in this campaign. All wished to remain anonymous in this story, fearing reprisal by underground ISIS cells in their home countries.
    One anti-ISIS activist, who's known on Twitter only as GenKnoxx, explained how the whole thing got started in January. When ISIS killed two Japanese hostages, the grief-stricken nation, unable to legally retaliate with a physical military, responded the only way it knew how. Animators independently Photoshopped ISIS images of the gruesome murder, replacing the killer's knife with a banana.
    "They did it to make these people -- who try to be terrifying -- look ridiculous," GenKnoxx told CNNMoney. "That's the idea. To de-fang ISIS."
    The group does have some simple rules: No insulting Islam -- or showing its religious symbols. Always respect images of hostages. No gore. No porn.
    For some, this probably sounds really weird. Maybe even bordering on offensive. But you have to understand that this type of personification is typical of Japanese anime culture. In the popular television series Sailor Moon, every planet in the Solar System had a heroic female. Even Internet Explorer has an anthropomorphic personification called Inori Aizawa.
    ISIS now has ISIS-chan.
    And whatever anyone posts on Twitter with the hashtag #ISISchan gets shared by the leading activist, ‎@isisvipper.


















































    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2170 - August 14, 2015, 09:08 PM
    Have you seen this?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33941913
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2171 - August 14, 2015, 09:18 PM
    Kayla Mueller's letter from captivity before her death

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31376933
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2172 - August 16, 2015, 09:35 AM
    Heartbreaking.
    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2173 - August 16, 2015, 10:06 AM
    Quote
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on August 14, 2015, 09:18 PM
    Kayla Mueller's letter from captivity before her death

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31376933

    Quote from: Naerys on August 16, 2015, 09:35 AM
    Heartbreaking.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flA0xBycKzM
    Syrian Sit-in on YouTube - That was Kayla Muller (USA - Arizona (August 14, 1988 – c. February 6, 2015)., Ha!  born couple days back in  the year 1988 . A girl with puppy love...



    well that is an important letter of  Kayla Mueller who went out of her way to help others in need and gave  her life away., A  letter that is worth having   in its totality in this folder...  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31376933



    Kayla Mueller's family have released a letter sent by the IS hostage before her death in what the jihadist group says was a coalition air strike in Syria.
    Quote
    Everyone,if you are receiving this letter it means I am still detained but my cell mates (starting from 11/2/2014) have been released. I have asked them to contact you +send you this letter. It's hard to know what to say.

    Please know that I am in a safe location, completely unharmed + healthy (put on weight in fact); I have been treated w/ the utmost respect + kindness. I wanted to write you all a well thought out letter (but I didn't know if my cell mates would be leaving in the coming days or the coming months restricting my time but primarily) I could only but write the letter a paragraph at a time, just the thought of you all sends me into a fit of tears.

    If you could say I have "suffered" at all throughout this whole experience it is only in knowing how much suffering I have put you all through; I will never ask you to forgive me as I do not deserve forgiveness. I remember mom always telling me that all in all in the end the only one you really have is God.

    I have come to a place in experience where, in every sense of the word, I have surrendered myself to our creator b/c literally there was no else…. + by God + by your prayers I have felt tenderly cradled in freefall. I have been shown in darkness, light + have learned that even in prison, one can be free. I am grateful.

    I have come to see that there is good in every situation, sometimes we just have to look for it. I pray each each day that if nothing else, you have felt a certain closeness + surrender to God as well + have formed a bond of love + support amongst one another… I miss you all as if it has been a decade of forced separation. I have had many a long hour to think, to think of all the things I will do w/ Lex, our first family camping trip, the first meeting @ the airport.

    I have had many hours to think how only in your absence have I finally @ 25 years old come to realize your place in my life.

    http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/80914000/jpg/_80914726_a0c198b9-7232-40da-895c-5327a7337651.jpg

    The gift that is each one of you + the person I could + could not be if you were not a part of my life, my family, my support.

    I DO NOT want the negotiations for my release to be your duty, if there is any other option take it, even if it takes more time. This should never have become your burden.

    I have asked these women to support you; please seek their advice. If you have not done so already, [REDACTED] can contact [REDACTED] who may have a certain level of experience with these people. None of us could have known it would be this long but know I am also fighting from my side in the ways I am able + I have a lot of fight left inside of me.

    I am not breaking down + I will not give in no matter how long it takes. I wrote a song some months ago that says "The part of me that pains the most also gets me out of bed, w/out your hope there would be nothing left…" aka ­‐ the thought of your pain is the source of my own, simultaneously the hope of our reunion is the source of my strength.

    Please be patient, give your pain to God. I know you would want me to remain strong. That is exactly what I am doing. Do not fear for me, continue to pray as will I + by God's will we will be together soon.

    All my everything,
    Kayla

    So smart.. .....so thoughtful..... so ideal.... so believing in that god  .. that letter shows power of belief in god... ..yet that useless god can not help folks like that ...
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2174 - August 16, 2015, 10:36 AM

    Quote
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd4Sk9muT8s   ....Published on Jun 5, 2015

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/11/world/middleeast/parents-of-kayla-mueller-isis-hostage-confirm-she-is-dead.html?_r=0  ...... FEB. 10, 2015

    http://www.christiantoday.com/article/6.6.million.ransom.demanded.by.isis.for.american.woman/39994.htm  .......

    http://www.newzbuzz.com/news/isis-claims-female-american-hostage-kayla-mueller-killed-airstrike/

    http://www.newzbuzz.com/news/isis-leader-sexually-abused-american-hostage-kayla-mueller/

    $6.6 million ransom demanded by ISIS for American woman



    Quote
    On Friday, ISIS claimed that Mueller -- captured in northern Syria in 2013 -- had been killed in a building that was hit during a Jordanian airstrike on Raqqa, the militants' de facto capital in Syria. At the time, ISIS offered no proof to back up its claim, other than an image of a building in rubble.

    Quote
    Over the weekend, ISIS sent the family a private message, National Security Council spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan said Tuesday.  "Once this information was authenticated by the intelligence community, they concluded that Kayla was deceased," Meehan said.


    The new information does not clarify how Mueller died, a law enforcement source familiar with the case said on condition of anonymity.

    U.S. President Barack Obama offered his condolences to the young woman's family.

    "Kayla's compassion and dedication to assisting those in need shows us that even amongst unconscionable evil, the essential decency of humanity can live on," Obama said in a statement released by the White House Tuesday.

    Mueller's relatives on Tuesday also released a handwritten letter that they say she wrote while in captivity in spring 2014.

    Read transcribed version of letter (.PDF)

    "It's hard to know what to say," the letter reads. "Please know that I am in a safe location, completely unharmed + healthy (put on weight in fact); I have been treated w/the utmost respect + kindness."

    Quote
    Taken hostage in 2013

    Mueller fell into the hands of hostage-takers in August 2013 in Aleppo, Syria, her family said, after leaving a Doctors Without Borders hospital.

    Her family said ISIS contacted them in May with proof that she was alive. The militants eventually said they would kill her if the family didn't pay nearly $7 million by August 13, 2014, according to a source close to the family. What happened after that deadline is unclear.



    It is very important to read news links between the lines carefully  and extract the facts from news links
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2175 - August 16, 2015, 10:54 AM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C46oVOKmn8A
    Obama: 'Heartbroken' over death of US hostage Kayla Mueller

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SkzUwKHkVI
    John McCain on Failing to Rescue Kayla Mueller; Obama Buzzfeed Video; Diane Douglas News Conference

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWn9bgXBz_hrjoSg3Q8e6Qg

    Hmm...       I see..... Syed Suhail  ...Syed Suhail......    that is how AmeriKans work..  and that is how American Politics work
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2176 - August 19, 2015, 05:55 PM
    Can it any longer be denied that ISIS and its cruelties are religious?

    http://arcoftheuniverse.info/can-it-any-longer-be-denied-that-isis-and-its-cruelties-are-religious
    Which side are you on?
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2177 - September 01, 2015, 09:47 AM
      http://www.arabnews.com/middle-east/news/799771

    4 Iraqi fighters burned alive in new Daesh video
     
    Quote
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdc3OzzdXH8



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wxgZaT0lCM
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2178 - September 04, 2015, 06:29 AM
    Sweden got its very first IS-warrior who has publicly dissociated from the organization and claimed them to be "un-Islamic" not following the "balanced approach" of Islam concerning Muslims and "peaceful"(sic) non-Muslims. However, he is very clear with the fact that he is still a fundamentalist and strives to establish God's law throughout the land... Roll Eyes

    More (in Swedish): http://www.svd.se/svensk-17-aring-hoppade-av-is

    Mona Sahlin, one of Sweden's most prominent politicians has personally been involved in getting the boy (17 years old) home across the Turkish border. What pisses me off the most is that this piece of shit traveled to ISIS, made propaganda videos for their behalf, called other young men and boys to join him... And when he saw the actual reality of what Islamic barbarity leads to (you know, because practice is not always as pretty as the theory), he gets disillusioned and wants to return home. To the kuffar. WIthout any repercussions.

    You know, because radicalized Muslims can travel to another country rape and kill and torture people and then return home and Swedes be like "ehrmagaaahd this is awesome now you can tell other young Muslim men how awful ISIS is..." but it's OK if you still propagate for shariah and whatnot.. as long as you don't like ISIS... or something like that...

    I have no sympathy for these men and women. No understanding. No mercy. No excuses. They are criminals and should be dealt with as criminals, irregardless if they "repent" or whatever after realizing what ISIS truly stands for. The most brute form of Islam. Welcome to reality, motherfuckers.  finmad
    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2179 - September 04, 2015, 08:39 AM
    Couldn't agree  with you more, these evil former jihad  zombies should be doing jail time if they try to come back and or stripped of their passports/citizenship.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2180 - September 04, 2015, 02:49 PM
    Islamic State 'blows up Palmyra funerary towers'   says BBC News


    Syria's antiquities chief said the Tower of Elahbel, built in AD103, was among those destroyed

    Quote
    Jihadist militants from Islamic State (IS) have blown up three funerary towers at the ancient city of Palmyra, Syria's antiquities chief has said. Maamoun Abdul Karim said they included the Tower of Elahbel, built in AD103 and one of the best-preserved.

    The multi-storey sandstone monuments, standing outside the city walls in an area known as the Valley of the Tombs, belonged to rich Palmyrene families. Their demolition comes only days after IS blew up Palmyra's two main temples.


    Well that is the news
    and what can I say?  
    what is there to say?/

    BRUTAL ROGUES OF ISLAM has done such destruction for the past 1400 years   since the alleged death of alleged Prophet of Islam  who was actually a cartoon character created by the ISLAMIC THUGS OF THAT TIME.

     This cartoon character took birth in Islam  way after death of an innocent Arabian pagan guy .. may be a preacher .... who wanted to educate his people..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2181 - September 04, 2015, 04:20 PM
    I can't bear hearing all this news about Palmyra...Imagine if they invaded Egypt and began to blow up the monuments there...   lets not imagine :/
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2182 - September 04, 2015, 07:53 PM
    Quote from: Doubting Tomas on September 04, 2015, 08:39 AM
    Couldn't agree  with you more, these evil former jihad  zombies should be doing jail time if they try to come back and or stripped of their passports/citizenship.


    Former yes, latter no.

    And I wouldn't say evil zombies, but yes their actions should have consequences.
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2183 - September 04, 2015, 11:11 PM
    Not being allowed back info the country is very appealing to people. Everyone and their mother knows what the islamic state are about. I wouldn't shed a tear if these people were stripped of their passports/citizenship. Frankly people don't want them back. Can't say I blame them.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2184 - September 04, 2015, 11:26 PM
    What does removal of citizenship accomplish? At best its a tool used by the state in question to obfuscate responsibility. If for example a Swedish citizen is committing war crimes in a distant land, then yes it should be known as such.

    The bigger problem with what's going on with immigration in Europe and even the US is that its nothing more than an exploitation of labor. The effect of bringing back an ISIS terrorist, or having indeterminate human trafficking across the Mexican border is not considered because western governments don't care about that effect to society. To TPTB, its far easier and cheaper, and creates a political bogeyman to have things unregulated, or in the US case illegal.

    By removing the western nationality, it becomes that much more easier for the government to pin the problem on a dangerous "other", as opposed to reflecting if there's anything wrong with how they're doing things.
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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2185 - September 04, 2015, 11:28 PM
    Not to mention, I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the human rights implications of removing citizenship.
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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2186 - September 04, 2015, 11:34 PM
    We're not really talking immigration in the usual sense though. We're talking British, American, Swedish etc citizens declaring loyalty to a group that glorifies it's evil to the point of pornography being told if you make this choice, you are no longer welcome here.

    The human rights thing isn't an issue as it's effectively exile. Being stateless is what makes it a human rights issue if I recall correctly.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2187 - September 05, 2015, 07:25 AM
    And what is accomplished by making them stateless?
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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2188 - September 05, 2015, 07:51 AM
    Revoking citizenship doesn't automatically make a person stateless. This is why it's not necessarily a human rights violation in the case of duel citizenship.

    But to answer your question in the way you meant it, what's accomplished is their country of origin theoretically doesn't have to let them return. You'd be hard pressed to find many who would be against this in my opinion. Not saying that makes it right.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #2189 - September 05, 2015, 09:15 AM
    Quote from: asbie on September 04, 2015, 11:28 PM
    Not to mention, I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the human rights implications of removing citizenship.


    Hit their passport instead, this will at least flag people as dangerous when they attempt to travel or cross a border. One still has the rights of a citizen, the nation has the right to charge them, balance is maintained.

    Where you thinking of Gitmo?
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