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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1890 - March 01, 2015, 01:30 PM

    More:

    "However, most homegrown wannabe jihadis possess a peculiar relationship with Islam. They are as estranged from Muslim communities as they are from western societies. Most detest the mores and traditions of their parents, have little time for mainstream forms of Islam and cut themselves off from traditional community institutions. It is not through mosques or religious institutions but through the internet that most jihadis discover their faith and their virtual community."
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1891 - March 01, 2015, 01:32 PM

    And last quote:

    "Jihadis are responsible for the choices they make. However much we may deplore western policies, at home or abroad, they provide no reason for the grotesque acts of Isis.

    And yet there is an uncomfortable question to be asked of society, too. Why is it that so many intelligent and resourceful young people find an ideology that espouses mass beheadings, slave labour and the denial of rights to women more appealing than anything else that is on offer?"
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1892 - March 01, 2015, 01:36 PM

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    In the past, social disaffection may have led people to join movements for political change, from far-left groups to anti-racist campaigns. Today, such organisations often seem equally out of touch. What gives shape to contemporary disaffection is not progressive politics but the politics of identity.


    INFERIORITY COMPLEX

    linked to ... >

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    Islam is a global religion, allowing Islamists to create an identity that is intensely parochial and seemingly universal, linking Muslims to struggles across the world, from Afghanistan to Palestine, and providing the illusion of being part of a global movement.


    SUPERIORITY COMPLEX


    This is the victim hood yet supremacist dichotomy rolled into one.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1893 - March 01, 2015, 01:39 PM

    More:

    "However, most homegrown wannabe jihadis possess a peculiar relationship with Islam. They are as estranged from Muslim communities as they are from western societies. Most detest the mores and traditions of their parents, have little time for mainstream forms of Islam and cut themselves off from traditional community institutions. It is not through mosques or religious institutions but through the internet that most jihadis discover their faith and their virtual community."


    The internet, bringing a non-filtered version of Islam with much ignored/not known about, that either leads to apostasy or literalism. None of these the community likes; so it distances Islam from the literal interpretation saying "they are not true Muslims"; whilst at the same time shunning/demonising apostates for leaving the "one true faith" when actually the mainstream know less than both the apostates and the literalists.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1894 - March 01, 2015, 01:41 PM

    This is of course cause the apostates and literalists are looking for identity. Whereas the mainstream has settled in their perhaps insular communities and just don't question things and get on with normal life with the comfort blanket of religion.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1895 - March 01, 2015, 01:52 PM

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    Comment here

    Pascalnumber

    Good article. However, I think it is also the conflict between a liberal society (e.g. acceptance of gays) and belonging to a culture that is conservative and where often boys are told to be 'real men' while girls should be obedient. As a result, many boys and girls have an internal struggle between being who they are and what their own community expects them to be. In addition, many (young) Muslims are tired of always being told by racists how Muslims are wrong while their religion and its believers are ridiculed. Further, men have to start sharing their powers with women and others who were considered weak in the past, something difficult for many men. Finally, in this crisis many can't find jobs (e.g. shops are closing as people buy via internet that in future may deliver via drones) and are told they are losers (even when they studied hard to get a degree) who should loose their benefits while many have to work for peanuts and thus loose friends because they can't even afford going to bars or having a partner in a culture that finds this important while around them the successful are getting richer and can afford whatever they want. As young people often struggle to find their own identity, continuously hearing they belong to the wrong group while often they want to be accepted by society makes many angry (certainly those with bad characters but even the nice ones) towards those they consider don't support them enough. Thus, we can probably expect more radicalized people when more will be told they are failures while they want to be accepted and thus more may join groups that suggest they are accepted. But many are also angry because the West doesn't seem to want to help Muslims who are killed by their leaders.

    The above also applies to Christians (and other groups) where many radicalise because they are angry their believes are ridiculed. E.g. certain Christians in the US and Europe defend more passionately creationism and thus are even more ridiculed and as a reaction radicalise even further. In addition, many white people who fail to find a job in their own country, even after gaining a number of degrees, start to become angry and search for equals within their own group and thus against foreigners, certainly when foreigners tell the original inhabitants they are lazy. The world is changing too fast for a large number of people and only redistribution may be a solution while at the moment wealth is more and more concentrated in a few hands.

  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1896 - March 01, 2015, 06:00 PM

    Quote from Kenan Malik's excellent article (link above):

    "In the past, social disaffection may have led people to join movements for political change, from far-left groups to anti-racist campaigns. Today, such organisations often seem equally out of touch. What gives shape to contemporary disaffection is not progressive politics but the politics of identity.

    Identity politics has, over the last three decades, encouraged people to define themselves in increasingly narrow ethnic or cultural terms...

    These developments have shaped not just Muslim self-perception but that of most social groups. Many within white working-class communities are often as disengaged as their Muslim peers, and similarly see their problems not in political terms but through the lens of cultural and ethnic identity. Hence the growing hostility to immigration and diversity and, for some, the seeming attraction of far-right groups.

    Racist populism and radical Islamism are both, in their different ways, expressions of social disengagement in an era of identity politics...."


    Which made me think about how it was back in my day (as a far left activist in the late 70s/early 80s). This documentary on the Southall Youth Movement (from the same period) is worth watching for a glimpse of how things were, at least sometimes.

    https://vimeo.com/95551885
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1897 - March 01, 2015, 06:43 PM

    Fucking savages:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exKGHEjl-dE

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1898 - March 01, 2015, 11:14 PM

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    Monday's Sun: "You've just eaten your son"  (via @suttonnick) #TomorrowsPapersToday #BBCPapers




    Courtesy of @BBCNews
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1899 - March 04, 2015, 09:28 AM

    How reliable is that? If true, one of the most horrible things I've read in a long long time.

    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1900 - March 04, 2015, 11:11 AM

    How reliable is that?


    +1

    If true… then they are insane psycopathic monsters beyond all belief.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1901 - March 04, 2015, 11:43 AM

    It may be worth bearing in mind that this is the 'newspaper' that brought us 'Freddie Starr Ate My Hamster'. I don't believe this story, not that I wouldn't put it past them, but it sounds a bit iffy to me. She didn't think it odd that they suddenly want to feed her? Hmmmm, dunno.

    Ha Ha.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1902 - March 04, 2015, 05:50 PM

    +1

    If true… then they are insane psycopathic monsters beyond all belief.

    They were long before this.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1903 - March 06, 2015, 12:50 AM

    New Player in the ISIS War: Christian Gazillionaire Foster Friess

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    He’s best known for bankrolling Republicans Rick Santorum and Scott Walker afloat, but Foster Friess has a new cause a long way from D.C.
    Republican megadonor Foster Friess is shifting his sights from political campaigns to a military campaign: to fight ISIS and save Kurdish lives.

    Behind the scenes, the conservative Christian has been traveling to the Middle East to support the vulnerable Kurdish minority in Iraq, and then coming back to the U.S. to lobby for arming and training their militias, known as the Peshmerga. These forces are on the front lines of the war with ISIS.

    “They are fighting our fight and we have treated them disgracefully in terms of the armaments we have provided. Not only am I embarrassed to be an American, I’m actually ashamed,” Friess told The Daily Beast. Arming the Kurds, he added, would help “defeat a ghastly evil that is running amok.”

    Some pro-Kurdish advocates have interpreted Friess’s interest to mean that he wants to raise a volunteer military force to aid the Kurds, or arm them through private funds. But Friess told The Daily Beast that is not on the table, at least not for now.

    One of his informal advisers, retired U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Ernie Audino, seem to be singing from a slightly different hymnal.

    “There is no reason why this monopoly [for equipping] should be owned by the U.S. government. I think there’s a role for private organizations to generate private support to help the Kurds,” said Audino, who as a soldier was stationed in Kurdistan for a year. “Foster and I are certainly talking about it, in concept… No one’s pulled the trigger on it.”

    Last November, Friess traveled to the front lines of the Kurdish battle with ISIS, visiting a Peshmerga military camp called “Black Tiger.”

    “When I visited Camp Black Tiger I was amazed to see how many of the fighters had come out of retirement and were in their 40s and 50s,” Friess said. “I had tears in my eyes to see the Yazidis [an ethnic minority]... as I passed out 5,000 blankets to them which our family had purchased from Turkey.  To think they had to leave their homes and everything they owned and only had the clothes on their backs was indeed sad.”

    Friess is primarily known for funding socially conservative causes, including hundreds of thousands of dollars to former Sen. Rick Santorum’s last presidential run. He spent more than a million on Koch-related causes, and six figures to Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s 2012 recall campaign.

    He backs all that with a net worth The Wall Street Journal has estimated at just north of half a billion dollars.

    But Friess is no stranger to controversy, having stirred up outrage on the left during the 2012 presidential campaign when, as a prominent backer of Rick Santorum, the 74-year-old said that women in his day put aspirin “between their knees” as contraception.

    More disturbing, perhaps, is the fact that Friess’s website promotes books by well-known Islamophobes like Frank Gaffney and Robert Spencer, who helped inspire Norweigan mass murderer and terrorist Anders Breivik. (Although, it should be noted, the website also promotes moderate Islamic groups.)

    In the Capitol, Friess has pressed lawmakers to expand airstrikes against ISIS, to help train and equip the Peshmerga, and expand humanitarian aid. He is also insistent on a rhetorical change: that politicians stop referring to the “war on terror.” Instead, he wants the world to take arms against the “global jihadist movement.”

    The Kurdish military wish list is long, reflecting the nature of its grinding, daily fight with ISIS. They want counter-IED tools, anti-tank weapons, mine-resistant vehicles, and surveillance equipment.

    “[Friess is] shooting for practical targets. What’s the most practical target right now? The easiest target right now is, let’s help the United States directly equip the Kurds,” said Brig. Gen. Audino, who serves as an informal adviser to Friess on Kurdish issues. “He has a genuinely good heart, and he wants to stay on the right side of history… He sees the awful slaughter of innocents in Iraq and Syria right now. He doesn’t see that ending at Iraqi and Syrian borders.”

    ISIS could be pushed back, Friess said, if the United States would provide the Kurds with “Apache helicopters and tanks and anti-tank weapons,” as well as a more aggressive air campaign.

    Some have interpreted the multimillionaire’s support for the Kurds as openness to privately funding their cause. Last month, an email from Friess to Sen. Rand Paul was leaked to the Washington Examiner’s David Drucker. In it, Friess urges Paul to support the Kurds. In particular, he asked the White House hopeful whether he’d support raising a force to aid their fight.

    “Would you support a volunteer force from our military or contractors? I received a request from 2,000 young Christian men for help in training and arming. They want to protect their vulnerable, unprotected Christian community 30 miles from ISIS,” Friess wrote.

    Audino, the retired general, said that while the businessman’s primary effort was to get the American government to directly arm the Kurds, they have talked about privately doing so as well, hypothetically.

    Small wonder that rumors have been spreading among anti-ISIS Westerners that Friess could soon be bankrolling their efforts. Matthew VanDyke runs a security contracting firm called Sons of Liberty International in Iraq, which provides free military training to local Christians in Kurdish and Iraqi areas. He said he had heard that Friess “pledged to help fund the Peshmerga,” and had been looking to get in touch with him ever since.

    But asked directly about it, Friess said he was not considering privately raising, training and equipping a militia to defend embattled Christians and Kurds in Iraq and Syria. He wouldn’t comment on the request that he received from the thousands of Christian men that he referenced in the email to Sen. Paul.

    The scale of the problem, he said, makes a solution too large to privately finance.

    “Do you realize the enormity of what it takes to defeat the enemy? I’m not in the business of financing private armies,” Friess told The Daily Beast.

    Friess’s interest in the Kurds can at least in part be explained by his Christian faith, or as the businessman put it, when he “invited Jesus to become the Chairman of the Board of my life.”

    American Christians have been generally supportive of the Kurds due to their role in protecting Christians in post-Saddam Iraq. Evangelical figures like former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Pat Robertson have touted the secular Kurds for their protection of Middle Eastern Christian communities. Though there has historically been animus between Kurds and Christians in the region, there has been in contemporary times a confluence of interests.

    “The Kurds have been seen as protectors of the Christians, especially since the fall of Saddam in 2003, when the Christians began to be pushed out of and even murdered in Arab Iraq. By contrast the Christians have been thriving in the Kurdish region of Iraq,” said Professor Michael Gunter, who has written 11 books on the Kurdish people.

    Since the proclamation of a so-called Islamic State last year, outside players have jumped into the ISIS war. From Saudi to Iranian involvement, from American military veterans looking for freelance work to Western jihadists looking for a battle to join, outsiders have flooded into the region for one cause or another.

    If a high-profile Christian American businessman were to privately fund weapons in the ISIS battlespace, it would be a problematic foray into an already-nasty sectarian situation. So far Friess has stayed away from that role. While the Kurds welcome any help they can get from Christian Americans, ISIS has framed its war as one of them versus the “crusaders.”

    In January, for example, ISIS urged its followers in the West to “to target the crusaders in their own lands and wherever they are found.”

    The money Friess has thus far spent on the Kurdish cause has been slight, as compared to his financial commitments to political candidates. He spent some $50,000 on blankets as humanitarian aid to the Yazidis, another minority group in Iraq.

    Awat Mustafa, who works at a Kurdish humanitarian aid group called the Barzani Charity Foundation, met Friess during the National Prayer Breakfast this year. Friess invited Mustafa to his office, and they’ve been tossing ideas back and forth ever since. Mustafa said he submitted a funding proposal, for humanitarian assistance to the millions of refugees in Kurdish areas, and hopes to get funding in the realm of six figures or more.

    “I'm sure he’s going to be one of our big donors, no doubt about it,” Mustafa said. “In the past he has already donated some money for refugees in the Kurdistan region.”

    Perhaps Friess’s most impactful effort for the Kurds has been in using his weight to press Congress to help them. Foster has wielded his influence to lobby lawmakers on both sides of the aisle to support Kurdish militias, including such figures as Democratic lawmakers Sen. Harry Reid and Rep. Tulsi Gabbard.

    “Foster Friess agrees with me on this issue—in order for there to be military success on the ground and defeat ISIS, the U.S. must provide the heavy weapons and arms directly to trusted fighters, such as the Kurds,” Gabbard said.

    On the Republican side, Friess’s role is praised.

    “He’s a good friend of the Kurds, and he’s made a real difference. He’s provided his own money, among other things… and had an effect on opinion here [in the Senate]. He’s one of their strongest advocates,” Sen. John McCain told The Daily Beast.

    Added Sen. Lindsey Graham: “He’s gotten to know the Kurds well. He’s very passionate.”

    And there may be some coming legislative efforts: Sen. John Barrasso, Gabbard and others huddled with Friess in Graham’s conference room last month to work on a bill called the Kurdish Emergency Relief Act, the Washington Examiner reported, which would involve some $500 million in aid for the Kurdish people. The legislation has not yet been introduced.


    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1904 - March 06, 2015, 12:51 AM

    They were long before this.

     Afro

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1905 - March 06, 2015, 07:51 AM

    More cultural destruction by ISIS  Cry:
    Islamic State bulldoze ancient Nimrud city - Iraq

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    (Reuters) - Islamic State fighters have looted and bulldozed the ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud in northern Iraq, the government and a local tribal source said

    The destruction at Nimrud came a week after the radical Islamist militants released a video showing them destroying Assyrian era statues and sculptures in the city of Mosul, which they seized in June last year.

    "Islamic State members came to the Nimrud archaeological city and looted the valuables in it and then they proceeded to level the site to the ground," the tribal source from near Mosul, where ancient Nimrud is located, told Reuters.

    "There used to be statues and walls as well as a castle that Islamic State has destroyed completely."

    Iraq's Ministry of Tourism said the Islamic State militants were defying the world with their destruction of antiquities.

    "They assaulted the ancient city of Nimrud and bulldozed it with heavy machinery, appropriating the archaeological attractions dating back 13 centuries BC," it said in a statement issued late on Thursday.

    (Reporting by Saif Hameed; Writing by Dominic Evans; Editing by Robert Birsel)


     Cry
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1906 - March 06, 2015, 12:16 PM

    Arghhhhhhhh, it pisses me endlessly off to see the destruction of our beautiful history and heritage!!!  finmad finmad finmad

    You are the Universe, Expressing itself as a Human for a little while- Eckhart Tolle
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1907 - March 06, 2015, 12:43 PM

    Well this just made my day so so so much better you know.  banghead

    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1908 - March 06, 2015, 01:23 PM

    More Western propaganda to make Islam look bad. Or something.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1909 - March 06, 2015, 03:06 PM

    Apparently these psychopaths have found a new way of killing people.
    ISIS throws gay men off buildings.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/05/middleeast/isis-lgbt-persecution/index.html

    To be honest, is better than to be beheaded or burned alive, but it is unbelievable that they are looking for new ways to kill people. 
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1910 - March 06, 2015, 03:25 PM

    Some of them survive the fall and are stoned to death. I heard one account of surviving the fall and being thrown off again.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1911 - March 06, 2015, 03:37 PM

    Throwing homosexuals off buildings is standard Saudi 10th grade religious curriculum as described in the thread Throwing homosexuals out from high places.

    As the source says it is nothing new but part of fiqh if on is cranky enough.

    It is to emulate the punishment God gave the inhabitants of Sodom. So in some interpretations that include walls being toppled on top of the "offender" (as the walls of buildings in Sodom crushed the inhabitants)

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1912 - March 06, 2015, 06:29 PM

    Thank you Nikolaj, I thought the standard and only procedure was stoning to death.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1913 - March 06, 2015, 11:14 PM

    'To Valhalla!': Crack Norwegian 'Punisher' troops sent to Iraq to help take on fanatical ISIS army


    Telemark Battalion is an elite mechanised Norwegian Army infantry unit
    Soldiers known for wearing patches with Marvel character's skull emblem
    Antihero from comic series is vigilante who slaughters criminals
    Patches honour comrade killed by Taliban roadside bomb in Afghanistan
    Fifty fighters will travel to Irbil in northern Iraq to help Kurdish forces
    Peshmerga troops are locked in bitter armed struggle with Islamic State


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    Dozens of soldiers from a battalion famous for using the emblem of a vicious comic book avenger to strike fear into the enemy in Afghanistan are heading to Iraq with ISIS in their sights.
    The Telemark Battalion is an elite mechanised infantry unit of the Norwegian Army which has been involved in the fight against the Taliban as part of the NATO-led security mission since 2003.
    Around 50 soldiers from Telemark will be heading to the city of Irbil in northern Iraq to train Kurdish forces to help them in their fight against Islamic State, the Norwegian ministry of defence has confirmed. It is thought the mission will begin in early April.






    Quote
    Some instructors will also be sent to the Iraqi capital Baghdad in the hopes of stemming an insurgency which now controls large tracts of northern Iraq and Syria.   
    The Telemark Battalion attracted headlines in 2010 when reports emerged some of its soldiers were spray-painting the Punisher symbol on houses and property belonging to Afghans suspected of being members of the Taliban.

    The Punisher is a Marvel Comics antihero and vigilante who slaughters criminals and mobsters and has a striking skull-shaped emblem.
    Since the death of Claes Joachim Olsson - known by his nickname 'Jokke' - in January 2010, some members of the unit took to wearing patches featuring the Punisher logo and the words 'Jokke - we will never forget'.
    The 22-year-old was killed when the storm tank he was travelling in was hit by a Taliban roadside bomb southeast of the village of Ghowrmach in northwest Afghanistan.

    The wearing of Punisher patches was subsequently banned by the Norwegian military leadership, though some soldiers reportedly continued to do so.
    Following Olsson's death a video emerged of company commander Major Rune Wenneberg firing up his troops with a rousing battle cry name-checking Valahalla, the mystical hall of Norse mythology where specially chosen warriors go after they've been killed in combat.
    During the footage Wenneberg reportedly cries: 'You are the predator. Taliban is the prey. To Valhalla!', as his troops punch their weapons in the air in support.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxOSqSUgNzE

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    One former soldier knows who firsthand how ferocious Telemark fighters can be is American Charles Stanley, who helped provide logistics for units from the Norwegian battalion when they underwent two weeks of cold weather training in preparation for deployment to Bosnia in the late 1990s.
    The 51-year-old, who is a former sergeant in the 82nd Airborne Division of the US Army, told MailOnline they would be a fierce asset to Kurdish Peshmerga troops in their efforts to combat murderous extremists.
    He said: 'ISIS should fear them for sure. They didn't hold back in work or play and when they went to the task of battle that was all of the business they cared for until the mission was completed.

    'ISIS is a force of uncontrolled chaos and they have no discipline or defined battlefield strategy other than overcome by force.
    'This well-trained and disciplined unit of Norwegian soldiers would be able to make very short work of any ISIS soldiers they encountered.'
    Now a director of technology at a Catholic high school in Modesto, California, Mr Stanley added: 'My take on them is that they were a very aggressive and rugged team of warriors.
    'They had the attitude of whatever comes our way we will demolish it, be that from eating chow to driving their mechanised vehicles.
    'There was no half way with them - it was all or nothing in everything they did. I have a long history with airborne paratroopers and they are some of the toughest soldiers in the army, on and off duty - they train hard and play even harder.
    'The Telemark Battalion guys were every bit if not more rough and tumble.
    'I would say compared to other country's soldiers they were among some of the most competitive and competent warriors that I have ever worked with.
    'When we were in [Operation] Desert Storm [against Saddam Hussein in 1990] their equivalent would have possibly been the French Foreign Legion soldiers as far as ferocity and competence goes.'

    The 11-year veteran of the 82nd Airborne and father-of-one, whose son is currently serving in the US Army, says the Punisher symbol was not being used when he worked with the soldiers.
    He said: 'That incident didn't happen until later in Afghanistan and I was aware of it and heard the stories.
    'That type of scare tactic has been employed for many years by many armies - the Vietnam War had its death card ace of spades, and now they have moved to spray-painted skulls and comic book reference symbols.
    'Chris Kyle the American Sniper had his also.'
    Kyle is known for using a variation of the Punisher symbol himself, featuring the words 'Despite what your momma told you...violence does solve problems'.




    THE HEROES OF TELEMARK



    The Telemark saboteurs back in Britain after the incredible raid. Six Norwegian soldiers destroyed Hitler's nuclear dream in February 1943 at the Norsk Hydro plant near the town of Rjukan, Norway

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    The Telemark Battalion share a name with a group of legendary Second World War saboteurs.
    The Heroes of Telemark (pictured), carried out a famous raid which helped thwart Hitler's plans to build a Nazi nuclear bomb.
    The team successfully destroyed a heavy water production facility at the Norsk Hydoelectric plant in Telemark, a region of southern Norway, in 1943.
    The raid, which is regarded as one of the most successful acts of sabotage in the whole war, was also remarkable for the fact all the team managed to escape by cross-country skiing 250 miles into Sweden.
    The heavy water or deuterium oxide which the Norsk plant produced, was essential to the German scientists working on an atomic bomb project and the allies were desperate to destroy it.
    It was no soft target. Perched on an icy ravine, surrounded by machine gun-toting guards and floodlights the plant was virtually impregnable.
    But the six-man all Norwegian squad from the Special Operations Executive, trained at Brickendonbury in Hertfordshire, managed to parachute in and get the job done.
    In what was known as Operation Gunnerside, the raiders broke into the plant and set charges, the explosion of which caused 1000lbs of heavy water to wash away.
    They then made their remarkable escape, imortalised in the 1964 Hollywood film The Heroes of Telemark, starring Kirk Douglas.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcAhDcqNmlQ

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1914 - March 06, 2015, 11:49 PM

    Good lads/ladesses!  Afro

    All need to be as fearless!
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1915 - March 07, 2015, 12:05 AM

    More cultural destruction by ISIS  Cry:
    Islamic State bulldoze ancient Nimrud city - Iraq

     Cry


    Such a disaster, just watched them destroy Nimrud on tv, an area where civilisation dates back to neanderthral man. Modern day "IS ape man" emerges and clubs it to dust.. :/  : (
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1916 - March 07, 2015, 12:56 AM

    I wouldn't insult apes by comparing them to the islamic state.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1917 - March 07, 2015, 10:57 AM

    Wonder if they also enjoy being named after a goddess who is revered by the pagans.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1918 - March 08, 2015, 07:12 PM

    Criminalising those who fight against IS (Australia)

    http://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/law-crime/2015/03/07/criminalising-those-who-fight-against/14256468001578
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1919 - March 08, 2015, 07:24 PM

    It's time they do so in every European country, I'm still waiting for it here in Sweden. Instead we have one returning ISIS fighter who has probably raped women, slaughtered children and spread mayhem working in an electronics store here in my hometown. And that's just one of them. Great.

    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
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