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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1740 - December 16, 2014, 06:20 PM

    One of the best I've heard about Islamists and ISIS in particular. I especially appreciated the part of taking advantage of the kuffar's technology, and the losers and criminals who failed in their own country. Spot on. Spot on.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1741 - December 16, 2014, 06:42 PM

    An Official Islamic State statement on Shar’i punishments

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    All praise due to Allah, to continue

    Allah The Most High said: “But no, by your Lord, they will not [truly] believe until they make you, [O Muhammad], judge concerning that over which they dispute among themselves and then find within themselves no discomfort from what you have judged and submit in [full, willing] submission.” [4:65]

    And Allah The Most High said: “And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed – then it is those who are the disbelievers.” [5:44]

    And Allah The Most High said: “Then is it the judgement of [the time of] ignorance they desire? But who is better than Allah in judgement for a people who are certain [in faith].” [5:50]

    And Allah The Most High said: “That is the judgement of Allah ; He judges between you. And Allah is Knowing and Wise.” [60:10]

    O Muslims, the one who comprehends this ayāt (verses) he will find in it big meanings which are no longer in the minds of the people in our time, among them are:

    1. Nullifying the Imān (beliefs) of a person who seeks judgement other than the Sharia
    2. The obligatory of subjugation and acceptance of Shar’i rulings without finding in themselves discomfort.
    3. The one who rules/judges with other than Allah has revealed is a kāfir (we seek refuge from Allah) even if he prays, fasts and claimed to be a muslim.
    4. There is no better judgement than the judgment of Allah, and all other judgements are Djāhiliyah (pre-islamic).
    5. When Allah judged between His servants, He judged between them as The All-Knowing and All-Wise, so there is no one that knows better than Allah nor is he Wiser than Allah.

    So because the Islamic State believes in Allah Sūbhānahu Watāla who revealed the Kitāb, and disbeliefs in the United Nations whom are in war with the Lord of all lords, and disbeliefs in the laws implemented by the creations created from clay (man-made laws), we promise Allah Sūbhānahu Watāla to govern with His Shariah on His earth between His servants although the kūfar dislike it. And we wish to explain the Hūdood of Allah Sūbhānahu Watāla as a warning:

    1. Insulting Allah = Killing.

    2. Insulting Messenger of Allah = Killing even if the one who did it repents.

    3. Insulting the religion = Killing.

    4. Zināh = If married, stoned to death. If not married; 100 lashes and banning from the land for the period of 1 year.

    5. Homosexuality = Killing the one who does such an act, and the one who it’s done to.

    6. Stealing = Cutting the hand

    7. Drinking alcohol = 80 lashes

    8. Slander = 80 lashes

    9. Spying for kūfar interests = Killing.

    10. Turning back on Islam (apostate) = Killing

    11. Banditry (in Arabic Qat3 at-Tarīq) are 4 categories:

    a. The one who kills and takes money = Killed and crucified.
    b. The one who kills merrily = Killing
    c. The one who steals merrily = His left hand and right feet will be chopped of.
    d. The one who scares the people = Banishing him from the land

    We are scaring people with their Lord (Allah) and we call them to enter His Mercy, by surrendering to His Commands and  avoiding what He forbade because all the good (khayr) is in it, and there is no good in one who is sentenced if he doesn’t surrende himself to the Sharia of His Lord, and there is no good in a judge if he doesn’t judge according to the Sharia of Allah between His servants. The Islamic State will not be lenient in this great purpose, for whom they offered hundreds of shūhadā from their innocent and pure sons. Rather it (even) implemented Allah’s Law on its own soldiers. And the sentences to kill them are more than one.

    “And Allah is predominant over His affair, but most of the people do not know.” [12:21]


    http://pietervanostaeyen.wordpress.com/2014/12/16/an-official-islamic-state-statement-on-shari-punishments/

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1742 - December 16, 2014, 07:03 PM

    They ain't very imaginative are they? All the punishments are killing or near to a killing. Also why can the lord not smite these sinners down instead of getting his minions to do it, is he that lazy?
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1743 - December 16, 2014, 09:35 PM

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    Don't expect us to be peaceful if what you're doing is the exact opposite.Fyi, Islam DOES NOT mean peace. #MombasaCityOfMartyrs


    https://twitter.com/ummumayr97/status/543382724112027648
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1744 - December 19, 2014, 12:38 AM

    Two months ago:



    Today:

    Iraqi Kurds Liberate Hundreds Trapped By ISIS On Sinjar Mountain[/quote]

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    By Isabel Coles

    ZUMAR, Iraq, Dec 18 (Reuters) - Kurdish peshmerga fighters have fought their way to Iraq's Sinjar mountain and freed hundreds of people trapped there by Islamic State fighters, a Kurdish leader said on Thursday.

    "The peshmerga have managed to reach the mountain. A vast area has been liberated," said Masrour Barzani, head of the Iraqi Kurdish region's national security council, adding that 100 Islamic State fighters had been killed.

    "Now a corridor is open and hopefully the rest of the (Sinjar) region will be freed from Islamic State."

    The assault, backed by U.S. air strikes, ended the months-long ordeal of hundreds of people from Iraq's Yazidi religious minority, who had been besieged on the mountain since Islamic State stormed Sinjar and other Kurdish-controlled parts of northern Iraq in August.

    "All those Yazidis that were trapped on the mountain are now free," Barzani said.

    The peshmerga had not yet begun to evacuate them, he added.

    Kurdish peshmerga soldiers began their offensive on Wednesday to break the jihadists' siege of the mountain and the town of Sinjar.

    The peshmerga advanced from Zumar, east of Sinjar, capturing back 700 square km (270 square miles) over two days. U.S. fighter planes carried out 45 strikes in support of Kurdish fighters on Wednesday, in addition to two strikes near Sinjar.

    The impact of the air strikes was evident on Thursday. In one village called Little Koban, the bodies of five militants lay in a wadi.

    The peshmerga said the Islamic State fighters had been trying to take cover from the air strikes.

    "It's the best feeling to kill the enemy," said a peshmerga who took a photo of himself with a corpse in the background on his cell phone. "Look at his beard, the son of a bitch."

    The words "Property of Islamic State" had been sprayed on houses in a nearby village.

    The Kurds have yet to take back the actual town of Sinjar, but the freeing of the Yazidis from the mountain is a victory for the Kurds after Islamic State's routing of peshmerga fighters this summer.

    The August spectacle of Islamic State fighters racing towards Arbil and the pleas of Yazidis trapped on Sinjar mountain, with thousands of others captured or killed, galvanized U.S. President Barack Obama to military action.

    Since then, Kurdish peshmerga forces have regained most of the ground they lost to Islamic State in northern Iraq, but Sinjar's awkward geography, out on a limb to the west, has made it difficult to penetrate. (Editing by Ned Parker and Andrew Roche)


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1745 - December 19, 2014, 12:45 AM

    Bjii Yezdi!

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1746 - December 19, 2014, 04:01 AM

    Good stuff. parrot

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1747 - December 19, 2014, 08:17 PM

    Punishment 11d

    "d. The one who scares the people = Banishing him from the land"

    And then in the very next line....

    "We are scaring people with their Lord (Allah).........."

    Er.........should they not be banishing themselves from the land then??? 

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1748 - December 20, 2014, 12:23 AM

    Islamic State vs. Lebanon VICE documentary.

    On Hezbollah, Sunnis and Christians and how the Islamic State and their occasional cronies (and occasional enemy) Jabhat al-Nusra try to destabilise Lebanon.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvil3E3QgMY

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1749 - December 20, 2014, 11:44 PM

    IS executed 100 foreign fighters who tried to quit: report

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    The Islamic State group has executed 100 of its own foreign fighters who tried to flee their headquarters in the Syrian city of Raqqa, the Financial Times reported on Saturday.

    An activist opposed to both IS and the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad told the daily that he had "verified 100 executions" of foreign IS fighters trying to leave the group's de-facto capital.

    IS fighters in Raqqa said the group has created a military police to clamp down on foreign fighters who do not report for duty. Dozens of homes have been raided and many fighters have been arrested, the FT reported.


    More in link.


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1750 - December 20, 2014, 11:46 PM

    So deserters are to be shot and are traitors (also cowards) foe conscientiously objecting; woot! Great way of testing people faith, faith can only be tested thru freedom!
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1751 - December 21, 2014, 12:06 PM

    I don't think you can call someone who consciously volunteered to join IS in the first place a conscientious objector, somehow.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1752 - December 21, 2014, 08:05 PM

    Good point.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1753 - December 21, 2014, 08:09 PM

    Objecting because they can't in good conscious do what they're ordered to do?

    I mean, yeah probably such a person would be rather naive of what's actually going on, but that doesn't mean they signed up for that. I get the feeling that a lot of the ones coming from the West have a not insignificant amount of such naivete.

    how fuck works without shit??


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1754 - December 21, 2014, 08:43 PM

    I don't know. They volunteered to join IS, which means that they volunteered to join the jihad of the caliphate against the (loosely defined) kuffar. That they found themselves no longer in control of defining who the kuffar were is surely neither here nor there; no soldier, having freely decided to join an army, gets to define their own enemy afterwards.

    Not without being subjected to the consequences, anyway.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1755 - December 21, 2014, 08:46 PM

    The way they treat civilians, women, war captives? I mean, this isn't exactly limited war they're engaging in here. I would hope that any soldier in any army would object to receiving the kind of orders they must face.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1756 - December 21, 2014, 09:04 PM

    Object they might, but my point is that a conscientious objector traditionally objects to actively participating in a war as a combatant on principle.

    Objecting to obeying direct, lawful* orders after having signed up to obey the same in the first place is going to be punished by any military, and naivety generally hasn't been much of a defence.

    * For whatever value of 'lawful' is in force.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1757 - December 21, 2014, 11:36 PM

    The way they treat civilians, women, war captives? I mean, this isn't exactly limited war they're engaging in here. I would hope that any soldier in any army would object to receiving the kind of orders they must face.


    In fact, it's clear from the Nuremburg trials that they should. I am hopeful that some of these people will be captured and tried for war crimes.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1758 - December 22, 2014, 10:49 AM

    The Nuremburg trials were great examples of the Allies selectively prosecuting the enemy while omitting their own crimes.  whistling2
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1759 - December 22, 2014, 11:09 AM

    The winners make the rules. Always make certain you win.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1760 - December 22, 2014, 05:46 PM

    Makes you want to go over and fight them:

    Islamic State: Yazidi women tell of sex-slavery trauma http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-30573385


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1761 - December 23, 2014, 11:10 AM

    I really question how people can join such a group as IS with all the media about them. Are people just ignoring it or thinking it is all fake? Is the call for a united Muslim political body so great that people rush head first towards any group actively trying to form one. I see a massive disconnect between reality and one's views. It would be interesting to hear more about how foreigners learned about IS, what they were taught about it and Islam.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1762 - December 23, 2014, 02:30 PM

    German journalist travelled through Islamic State. They actually believe they are destined to conquer the world, basically

    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/22/world/meast/inside-isis-juergen-todenhoefer/

    Young Muslim men drunk on delusion and fantasy of Islamic destiny and jihad.


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1763 - December 23, 2014, 09:44 PM

    It obviously has nothing to do with Islam.

    In other news (a week old):

    Syrian rebel Yarmouk Brigades ditch US and Israel allies, defect to ISIS

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    The Syrian rebel militia Al Yarmouk Shuhada Brigades, backed and trained for two years by US officers, mostly CIA experts, in Jordan, and supported by the Israeli army, has abruptly dumped these sponsors and joined up with the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, DEBKAfile’s exclusive military and counter-terrorism sources reveal.

    The sudden defection of this 2,000-strong anti-Assad force leaves IDF defense formations on the Golan, US and Jordanian deployments in the northern part of the kingdom, and pro-Western rebel conquests in southern Syria in danger of collapse.

    The Brigades’ jump into the radical jihadi camp was negotiated in the last two weeks by its commander Mousab Ali Qarfan, who also goes by the name of Mousab Zaytouneh. He was in direct contact with ISIS chief Abu Baqr Al-Baghdadi, whom our sources report has recently relocated from Iraq to his northern Syrian headquarters at al-Raqqa.

    Unlike the Sinai Islamists, Ansar Beit al Maqdis, the Yarmouk Brigades did not pledge allegiance to ISIS. The ir pact was forged as an operational alliance, which is just as grave a peril for the rebel militias’ abandoned allies.

    For Israel, in particular, the new development is fraught with three dangers:

    1. The Yarmouk Brigades are strung out along Israel’s Golan border with Syria, from the UN peacekeepers camp opposite Kibbutz Ein Zivan (see map) in the north, down to the Israeli-Syrian-Jordanian border junction in the south. The Brigades therefore sit along 45 of the total 76 kilometers of the Syrian-Israeli border. This means that a long stretch of Israel’s Golan border with Syria has fallen under the control of the Islamic State.

    2.  This militia also commands sections of the Syrian-Jordanian border, as well as districts of the southern Syrian town of Deraa. Therefore, the link between Jordan and southern Syria, which served American strategic interests, is now under military threat.

    3.  Islamic State forces are preparing to take advantage of their new asset with a buildup near the Druze Mountains (see map) for a rapid push south towards the town of Deraa, where they will join forces with their new ally. 


    Random Danish Palestinian on Facebook wrote that Jabhat al-Nusra (which some say share strategic interests with Israel in the Golan area) had scrambled to try to take the Yarmouk Brigade's US-supplied weapons stockpile. No idea if that is true.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1764 - December 23, 2014, 11:00 PM

    If this is true, these groups seem to shift allegiances so easily. So much for principles. They seem to be opportunists siding with whoever they think will get them the power.

    I am better than your god......and so are you.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1765 - December 23, 2014, 11:03 PM

    German journalist travelled through Islamic State. They actually believe they are destined to conquer the world, basically

    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/22/world/meast/inside-isis-juergen-todenhoefer/

    Young Muslim men drunk on delusion and fantasy of Islamic destiny and jihad.




    What amuses me (not that any of this is funny btw) is that allah is supposed to be in control of the entire frikkin' universe, yet he couldn't get further than Andalucía!

    I am better than your god......and so are you.

    "Is the man who buys a magic rock, really more gullible than the man who buys an invisible magic rock?.......,...... At least the first guy has a rock!"
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1766 - December 23, 2014, 11:09 PM

    I really question how people can join such a group as IS with all the media about them. Are people just ignoring it or thinking it is all fake? Is the call for a united Muslim political body so great that people rush head first towards any group actively trying to form one. I see a massive disconnect between reality and one's views. It would be interesting to hear more about how foreigners learned about IS, what they were taught about it and Islam.


    Yes, this puzzles me too. Especially late converts. How do they get from being a normal person, to "hey, what was I thinking? This beheading sounds like a really good idea after all", where does the switch take place? Anti establishment is one thing, but anti-humanity is another.

    I am better than your god......and so are you.

    "Is the man who buys a magic rock, really more gullible than the man who buys an invisible magic rock?.......,...... At least the first guy has a rock!"
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1767 - December 24, 2014, 11:45 AM

    IS shoot down Jordanian fighter plane and capture pilot - poor guy:

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