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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1500 - October 18, 2014, 06:14 PM

    I find it  very ironic that muslims who call out other muslims for being "MODERNISTS"over rejecting other ancient aspects of islam (ie anti gay stance, rejection of Evolution) will themselves put on the modernist hat when it comes to ISIS simply because of the bad rep unanimously that ISIS have.

    well that tells you.,   Islam is NOT a monolithic religious ideology and like Onions which have  different strength of that eye   burning chemicals in its layers.  So Like onion Islam also has  layers upon layers  of  sociopolitical structure  built  around its scriptures.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1501 - October 18, 2014, 06:49 PM

    Consistent rumour:
    Kobane is currently under a heavy nightly attack as IS has regrouped.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1502 - October 18, 2014, 09:07 PM

    If it's true, I'm not surprised. The place has women defying IS on the battlefield. That can't be allowed to continue. They must be raped and beheaded.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1503 - October 19, 2014, 06:22 AM







    U.S.-led coalition jets strike Kobani, Islamic State shells hit Turkey


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    (Reuters) - U.S.-led coalition jets pounded suspected Islamic State targets at least six times in the besieged Syrian town of Kobani on Saturday after the fiercest shelling in days by the insurgents shook the town's center and hit border areas within Turkey.

    Shelling continued after the strikes hit the center of Kobani. Several mortars fell inside Turkey near the border gate, called Mursitpinar, according to witnesses.

    Islamic State militants have battled Kurdish fighters for a month to take control of Kobani and consolidate a 60 mile (95 km) stretch of land they control along the Turkish border, but stepped-up air strikes in recent days have helped Kurds fend off the advance.

    The coalition has been bombing Islamic State targets in Iraq since August and extended the campaign to Syria in September after the Islamic State, a group that espouses a rigid interpretation of Islam and initially focused on fighting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's forces, made huge territorial gains.

    NATO member Turkey is a somewhat reluctant member of the coalition, insisting it must also confront Assad to end a civil war that has killed some 200,000 civilians since March 2011.

    On Saturday, the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said U.S-led forces bombing Islamic State in Syria killed 10 civilians in two separate air strikes.

    But U.S. Central Command said there was no evidence to back up the report. Its forces use mitigation measures to reduce the potential for civilian casualties, a spokesman said.

    Reuters cannot independently confirm the reports due to security restrictions.

    'CUT OFF'

    In Kobani, a commander for the YPG, the Syrian Kurdish militia defending Kobani, who would only gave her code name Dicle, said Islamic State's renewed attacks were aimed at severing the town's last link with Turkey.

    "They want to cut off Kobani's connection with the rest of the world," she told Reuters by telephone. "Turkey is not allowing in fighters or weapons, but they send aid at Mursitpinar. The Islamic State wants to destroy this gate so that we will be completely trapped here."

    Turkey has refused to rearm beleaguered Kurdish fighters, who complain they are at huge disadvantage in the face of Islamic State's weaponry, many of it seized from the Iraqi military when it took the city of Mosul in June.

    Turkey views the YPG with suspicion for its long-standing links with the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), which has waged a 30-year armed campaign for self-rule in Turkey.

    President Tayyip Erdogan said earlier this month the PKK was no better than the Islamic State in his view.

    This stance sparked outrage among Turkey's own Kurds, who make up about 20 percent of the population. Riots in several cities earlier this month killed more than 35 people.

    INTENSE SHELLING

    The Syrian Observatory said the Islamic State had launched at least 21 mortar attacks on Saturday close to the border.

    Abdulrahman Gok, a journalist inside Kobani, said by telephone said the fighting was the worst in two days. "In the past hour, the shelling has intensified. They are firing almost one every two minutes," he said, adding that the insurgents were aiming at the east side of town towards the Mursitpinar gate.

    A cloud of black smoke towered over the center of Kobani following the latest air strike as the roar of fighter jets could be heard from a blue sky. Gunfire popped in the west and center of town.

    Elsewhere in Syria, government forces shelled neighborhoods in Damascus, the southern province of Deraa and the central province of Homs, opposition activists said.

    Army helicopters were dropping improvised barrel bombs on the town of Khan Sheikhoun, in northwest Idlib province, which also borders Turkey, they said.

    Islamic State supporters circulated what they said was a nine-second video clip of a fighter jet said to be flown by Islamic State militants.

    The Observatory reported that Iraqi pilots who have joined Islamic State in Syria were training members of the group to fly in three captured fighter jets over the captured al-Jarrah military airport east of Aleppo.

    U.S. Central Command said on Friday that it was not aware of Islamic State flying jets in Syria. Reuters could not confirm the authenticity of the footage, which showed a jet flying at low altitude.

    Meanwhile, the United Nations said the Lebanese government has cut back sharply on the number of Syrian refugees it is allowing into the country. The country's Social Affairs Minister Rashid Derbas said in comments published a newspaper: "Lebanon is no longer officially receiving any Syrian refugees," except with those with pressing humanitarian needs.

    Lebanon has the highest per capita concentration of refugees in the world, with one in four residents a refugee, many of them living in the poorest areas, and the government has said it cannot cope with the more than a million Syrians and has asked for funds to help look after them.

    Turkey hosts about 1.5 million Syrian refugees, including almost 200,000 Syrian Kurds from Kobani.

    Amid the escalated fighting, Turkish trucks could be seen carrying about two dozen Kurdish refugees away from the border.

    Several hundred people are still sheltering in a minefield to the west of Kobani in order to stay with their vehicles and farm animals, which are not allowed in Turkey.

    (Additional reporting by Hamdi Istanbullu, writing by Ayla Jean Yackley, editing by Rosalind Russell)


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1504 - October 19, 2014, 06:49 AM

    Yeah I saw that on the ABC site (same report). This is getting interesting in terms of international politics. Kobane has basically become a symbol of resistance against IS. Everyone knows it is possible to save the town. All it takes is for some well-equipped people to decide its worth saving, be they Turks, Americans, or whoever. We all know Turkey would love to see all Kurds dead and buried, so count Turkey out.

    Everyone knows what will happen if the town falls to IS. It'll be a humanitarian disaster, and the whole coalition thing is supposedly (primarily) a humanitarian mission that has to use military methods, or at least was sold as such. If the fighters in Kobane need weapons, food, water and people, the US has the capability to drop all of those things right where they are needed, en masse, without putting any of its own personnel on the ground. So, if Kobane falls, it will be because the White House decided a massacre and a slave market was more useful than saving the town.

    ETA: Oh and did I mention that Erdogan is a complete twat, and would be better as dog food than as president?

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1505 - October 20, 2014, 07:39 AM

    It seems like the US has made its mind up:



    US airdrops weapons and supplies to Kobane fighters

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    WASHINGTON/ERBIL - The Kurdish Regional Government (KRG) gave the go-ahead for US-supplied weapons intended for its forces to be diverted to Syrian Kurds fighting to hold Kobane, a senior KRG source told Rudaw.

    “It was a question of national duty” to help arm the besieged Kurdish militia, who are currently defending the border town against Islamic State attack.

    The sources was speaking after the US military said on Sunday that the US air force airdropped arms and medical supplies to Kurdish fighters in the city of Kobane.

    US military forces conducted multiple airdrops tonight in the vicinity of Kobani, Syria to resupply Kurdish forces on the ground defending the city,” US Central Command said in a statement.

    According to the statement, the supplies were provided by the Kurdish authorities in Iraq.

    “The aircraft delivered weapons, ammunition and medical supplies that were provided by Kurdish authorities in Iraq and intended to enable continued resistance against ISIL's attempts to overtake Kobani,”
    Military analysts said the weapons were likely to have been old Soviet era stock procured by the US and originally intended to be supplied to the KRG Peshmerga.

    This statement also added that the US Air Force has conducted more than 135 airstrikes against Islamist militants in Kobane.

    The Kurdish city of Kobane was under siege from the Islamic State (IS) for more than a month until the fighters of the Peoples Protection Units (YPG) with support from the US air force pushed back the militants and regained control of the city last week.


    Wonder what Erdogan will say.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1506 - October 20, 2014, 07:51 AM

    Apparently Erdogan has said "OK":

    Turkey gives Peshmerga forces passage to Kobane

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    ERBIL, Kurdistan Region—The Turkish government has agreed to give Kurdistan Region Peshmerga forces passage to the besieged Kurdish town of Kobane, a well-placed source told Rudaw today.

    The official source said that Turkey has responded positively to a request from Kurdish President Massoud Barzani to allow Peshmerga forces pass through Turkish territory to relieve Peoples Protection Units (YPG) fighters in their battle against the Islamic State (IS).

    According to the source who didn't want to be named, Barzani and Peshmerga Minister Mustafa Sayid Qader have coordinated the plan with Salih Muslim, leader of the Democratic Union Party (PYD) and his YPG commanders.

    Muslim met with Barzani in Duhok last week where the two discussed the fighting in Kobane between the YPG and IS militants who have besieged the town for more than a month.

    On Sunday evening the US military said that the air force had made multiple airdrops of weapons and medical supplies to the Kurdish fighters in Kobane.

    In a statement, the US central command said the weapons and supplies were provided by the Kurdish authorities in Iraq.

    An official source in Erbil confirmed the US report to Rudaw, saying, “The weapons, ammunition and medical supplies were from the Kurdistan Region and we asked the US to deliver them to the fighters in Kobane.”

    “It is our support and our national duty,” he said. “In the future our will support will increase in coordination with the US.”


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1507 - October 20, 2014, 08:15 AM

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1508 - October 20, 2014, 11:11 AM

    An update on Mosul:

    Erbil broadcaster gives voice to people of ISIS-occupied Mosul



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    ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – The cell phones never stop buzzing at Naynawa al-Ghad TV.

    “One time we had 1,700 texts in an hour from people who wanted to join in the programme,” says Bashar Abdullah, the editor-in-chief of the station – the name means Nineveh of Tomorrow – which decamped from Mosul to Erbil after the ISIS takeover of Iraq’s second city in June.

    The live phone-in the station airs three times a week is very popular, he says. That is because it provides a vital information exchange between those in the occupied city and the outside world.

    The station is owned by Atheel Nujaifi, the governor-in-exile of Mosul, and run by his son Abdullah. The aim of setting up in Erbil is to give people in Mosul information, and hope, about plans to end the occupation by ISIS, or Daash as it is called locally by its Arabic acronym.

    The makers left Mosul hours before ISIS the city on June 10. Islamic Sharya law was imposed soon after, and an Islamic State declared by the end of the month.

    “We could not work under Daash,” Abdullah Nujaifi states. “Within a week after we left we started broadcasting from Erbil.”

    Only the car with the satellite dish on the roof in the driveway bears witness to the fact that a TV station is based here, in one of Erbil’s compounds. Inside, the team is having lunch, and a white cat is begging for its share. The newsroom is in the sitting room, the studio in an upstairs bedroom. There are two studio sets: one a newsdesk and the other an interview slot, complete with two easy chairs.

    The program offers mainly news, the phone-in and movies, repeated through a 24-hour cycle. “Look, this is what Daash doesn’t like,” the editor-in-chief says, pointing to the TV where a woman in a bikini is lounging at the side of a swimming pool. “That’s why we broadcast it, to make sure people keep in touch with the real world.”

    The station wants to exchange information with civilians in Mosul, as the governor needs to know what is going on and he wants people to know about his plans. The phone-in is an important tool.

    Although people avoid using their real names, they are surprisingly outspoken: criticising  the lack of electricity, the rising price of petrol and the fact that women have to cover their faces.

    At the same time, they come up with news, as in the case of the changes ISIS made in education, which now centres on the Quran and its version of Islam.

    “Many people left the city to take their exams elsewhere,” Nujaifi says, “in Kirkuk, or the Kurdistan Region. But recently they have no longer been allowed to leave the city.” He thinks this is part of an ISIS policy to use civilians as human shields against air strikes by the Americans and the Iraqis.

    “Life hardly is liveable out there anymore”, adds Bashar Abdullah. “It has become a prison.”

    The station reports on the situation in Mosul, but also about other places under ISIS control in Iraq -  Tikrit, Fallujah and much of Anbar. It has reported on preparations to form a police force of 4,000 of Atheel Nujaifi’s men to help liberate Mosul. “These policemen are now being trained to take on Daash,” declares the governor’s son.

    Abdullah Nujaifi  says the resistance in Mosul, the Mosul Brigades, are becoming more active, with their snipers and bombers daily taking on members of ISIS, he says.

    “We are in close contact with the brigades and report on everything they do,” adds Bashar Abdullah. “This way we give people hope they will be liberated soon.”

    According to Najaifi and his editor- in-chief, people in Mosul are so fed up with the bad situation, they even get into arguments with members of ISIS. Apparently the militants hardly show themselves on the streets anymore. While before they would walk around trying to control people, now they are said to mainly keep to the houses and other buildings they confiscated.

    The high number of arrests and executions by ISIS has angered the people of Mosul, Abdullah Nujaifi says. Last week it became known that two female human rights activists were executed That followed the execution of policemen, lawyers, politicians, medical doctors and journalists.

    “We often discuss how many people have died in the hands of Daash. We do not know. But it must be thousands.”


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1509 - October 20, 2014, 01:57 PM

    Yeah I saw that on the ABC site (same report). This is getting interesting in terms of international politics. Kobane has basically become a symbol of resistance against IS. Everyone knows it is possible to save the town. All it takes is for some well-equipped people to decide its worth saving, be they Turks, Americans, or whoever. We all know Turkey would love to see all Kurds dead and buried, so count Turkey out.

    Everyone knows what will happen if the town falls to IS. It'll be a humanitarian disaster, and the whole coalition thing is supposedly (primarily) a humanitarian mission that has to use military methods, or at least was sold as such. If the fighters in Kobane need weapons, food, water and people, the US has the capability to drop all of those things right where they are needed, en masse, without putting any of its own personnel on the ground. So, if Kobane falls, it will be because the White House decided a massacre and a slave market was more useful than saving the town.

    ETA: Oh and did I mention that Erdogan is a complete twat, and would be better as dog food than as president?


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1510 - October 20, 2014, 05:13 PM

    Iraqi former MP and Shia cleric Ayad Jamal Al-Din is at it again, saying reasonable stuff and lambasting both Shia and Sunni fiqhs:

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    In a recent TV interview, former Iraqi MP Ayad Jamal Al-Din called for the establishment of a civil state in Iraq based on man-made law and equality, rather than on Islamic jurisprudence, as the only way to combat ISIS. He further said that there were thousands of mosques in the U.S. and worldwide that incited and prepared people to join ISIS. "Islam has been politicized and is used as a sword," he said in the Al-Iraqiya TV interview, which aired on October 17.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8coZIHX2mg0

    WikiPedia: Ayad Jamal Al-Din

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     Reply #1511 - October 20, 2014, 07:21 PM

    You are God, my friend. Or perhaps a half-God. A pseudo-God. At least you're right. Spot on. Kinda like a God?

    I'm slightly more humane than god, and intermittently right.

    And good for Ayad Jamal Al-Din. Iraq could do with a few more like him.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1512 - October 20, 2014, 09:10 PM

    New IS offensive against the Yezidis: http://ezidipress.com/en/large-scale-isis-offensive-on-sinjar-thousands-of-civilians-surrounded/
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1513 - October 20, 2014, 09:30 PM

    I really don't get why there are still thousands of Yezidis on Mount Shingal more than two months after tens of thousands were saved by YPG and YPJ forces that fought their way through from Syria and creating a humanitarian corridor and a lot were air-lifted by the Iraqi air force away from the place? wacko

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1514 - October 20, 2014, 11:25 PM

    Why are ISIS bothering with them right now in any case? Doesn't seem to me to be sensible in a military tactical sense.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1515 - October 20, 2014, 11:38 PM

    Well now, this is like something from an 80s movie.

    German biker gangs join their Dutch counterparts in fighting against ISIS in Kobane

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    Members of Cologne-based Median Empire Motorcycle Club are in Kobane
    Riders seen posing with weapons in battle to defeat Islamic State jihadists
    Gang's official Facebook page says its members 'are at the front fighting'
    Median Empire Motorcycle Club has links to Kurdish community in Germany


    Members of a German motorcycle gang have arrived in the besieged Syrian city of Kobane to fight against Islamic State militants who have been attacking the city for the past four weeks.

    Leaders of the Cologne-based Median Empire Motorcycle Club, which has strong Kurdish links, have posted images of their riders posing in the city - some of them carrying weapons.

    The news comes just after three members of a notorious motorcycle gang from the Netherlands were told they had not committed any crime by travelling to Kobane to join the fight against ISIS.

    Images of the Median Empire Motorcycle Club emerged on the group's Facebook page, and showed the heavily tattooed riders with rifles slung over the shoulders.

    In a shot of the Germans huddled together, the gang's logo - a sinister looking white face on a black background - could clearly be seen on their leather vests.




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    The image was captioned: 'Our boys were in Kobane today and told me today they were shot at but nothing happened. They are okay.'

    Four days earlier, the same Facebook user wrote: 'While others blabber and blabber, our boys are at the front fighting.'

    The gang's official Facebook page says the riders have travelled to the Middle East to distribute aid, and several images show them handing out food to Yazidis in what looks like a refugee camp.

    Elsewhere of their Facebook page, the Median Empire Motorcycle Club praise the notorious Netherlands based No Surrender gang, three members of which have also travelled to fight in Kobane, according to its leader Klaas Otto.

    Last week a Dutch prosecutor told the members that they will not be prosecuted for going to fight abroad, because such actions are only illegal if you are fighting troops from the Netherlands.

    Public prosecutor spokesman Wim de Bruin said: 'Joining a foreign armed force was previously punishable, now it's no longer forbidden. You just can't join a fight against the Netherlands.'

    While several countries including Britain have taken steps to stop their citizens joining ISIS, joining the Kurds is generally permissible because they are not considered a terrorist organisation.

    However, anyone going to fight ISIS would be banned from joining the Kurdistan Workers' Party, who run several of the brigades fighting ISIS, because they are considered to be terrorists.

    Dutch citizens fighting on the Kurdish side would of course be liable to prosecution if they committed crimes such as torture or rape, De Bruin said.

    'But this is also happening a long way away and so it'll be very difficult to prove,' he added.

    Video footage apparently from a Kurdish broadcaster shows an armed European man with Kurdish fighters saying in Dutch: 'The Kurds have been under pressure for a long time.'

    There are estimated to be around 70,000 Kurds living in the Netherlands, most of whom are political refugees who fled from Turkey and the Middle East looking for work.

    An ISIS propaganda video released last week featured a German militant who threatened any Western soldier who travels to fight in Syria.

    Identified as Abu Dauoud al-Almani steps in front of the camera and speaks in German, subtitled in English.




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    Al-Amani claimed the video is being shot in the Syrian town of Dabiq and urges Western nations to send their armies to fight ISIS because 'We have been waiting for you for over 1,400 years.'

    He also urges his fellow Muslims in Germany, Austria and Switzerland to join ISIS.

    Al-Almani is far from the first German citizen to embrace radical Islam.

    Former rapper Denis Cuspert spent several years as a major player in the Berlin hip hop scene under the name Deso Dogg before embracing radical Islam and travelling join ISIS in Syria.

    It is understood Cusbert now calls himself Abu Talha al-Almani and leads a unit of German-speaking ISIS terrorists operating under the name 'The German Brigade of Millatu Ibrahim'.

    It is not known whether Abu Dauoud al-Almani is a member of Cuspert's militant unit.


    A biker from the No Surrender gang in the Netherlands, identified only as Ron (right) poses alongside a Kurdish soldier in Syria after going to fight against ISIS



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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1516 - October 21, 2014, 01:25 AM


    Will he deflate when his roids run out?
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1517 - October 21, 2014, 01:51 AM

    I really don't get why there are still thousands of Yezidis on Mount Shingal more than two months after tens of thousands were saved by YPG and YPJ forces that fought their way through from Syria and creating a humanitarian corridor and a lot were air-lifted by the Iraqi air force away from the place? wacko


    I think they have a shrine up there.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1518 - October 21, 2014, 02:01 AM

    So we have al Almani, the German. How apt. I remember weeks ago when we had Mama Kurda, and I get that, because he is with the Kurds in Iraq and did not seek permission from his European country of citizenship to fight, but the names get old like this. Now we have the Median Empire Gang, with claims to affiliations to the Kurdish diaspora. Really, not quite the whole story, I see.
    Come on, people. Give yourselves something more interesting than honorifics, origins, and geography. Use flowers, or something.
    I just hope the news gets better rather than worse.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1519 - October 21, 2014, 02:07 AM

    Every time I hear reports of a jihadi being killed, the world looks a little bit brighter.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1520 - October 21, 2014, 04:09 AM


    I'm jut waiting for the biker gangs to start fighting each other. Cheesy

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    Every time I hear reports of a jihadi being killed, the world looks a little bit brighter.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1521 - October 21, 2014, 08:33 AM

    Iraqi former MP and Shia cleric Ayad Jamal Al-Din is at it again, saying reasonable stuff and lambasting both Shia and Sunni fiqhs:




    Hi , thank you for the share, I've always enjoyed Jamal Al-Din's contribution to the old Iraqi parlement. Of course he never got the seat he wanted as long as he wanted and his campaine ultimately failed due to massive a ballot fraud during the 2010 elections.

    He actually moved to the US a couple years back following multiple assassination attemps against him, I hope he keeps expressing him self and may his voice be heard.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1522 - October 21, 2014, 09:23 AM

    Hi Apocalypsius,

    Jay! You're new here! dance

    Care to write an introduction of yourself over at the Introductions board? Smiley

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1523 - October 21, 2014, 12:04 PM

    I really don't get why there are still thousands of Yezidis on Mount Shingal more than two months after tens of thousands were saved by YPG and YPJ forces that fought their way through from Syria and creating a humanitarian corridor and a lot were air-lifted by the Iraqi air force away from the place? wacko

    There aren't actually that many left there:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Matthew__Barber
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    Many escaped the mountain, but a number remain. And they need the mountain back so that they can go home.

    Of an original population of over 300,000, there remain 3000-4000 #Sinjar civilians in several villages that weren't entirely depopulated.

  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1524 - October 21, 2014, 04:02 PM

    It seems like the situation around Mount Shengal has deteriorated rapidly today:



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    All land routes are being blocked, help can only reach both the fighters and civilians by air. The Ezidis´ supply line had been attacked massively for three weeks before it finally completely fell to ISIS.

    Thousands of civilians persevere in the mountains, the resistance fighters are trying to prevent the terrorists´ penetration into the mountains. The whole area has fallen to ISIS except Sherfedin and Mount Sinjar. After 10 weeks, the situation in Sinjar has deteriorated - after short-term successes


    This is from yesterday:

    Large-scale ISIS offensive on Sinjar: Thousands of civilians surrounded

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    At 3 am ISIS terrorists launched today one of the most massive large-scale offensives on Sinjar since the takeover of that region. Commanders of Ezidi militias tell ezidiPress that hundreds of fighters are surrounded in Borik, Duhola and at the pilgrimage site of Sharfadeen. From all sides the terrorists attack again the region with a massive contingent of fighters, succeeding in surrounding several Ezidi localities.

    The terrorists have advanced with more than 40 armoured Humvee vehicles alone to the village complex of Duhola and managed to surround around 100 Ezidi resistance fighters located there. All civilians have fled to the mountain. Commanders of the resistance units are currently trying to defend the pilgrimage site, Supreme Commander Haydar Shesho and General Qasim Shesho refuse to give up the Ezidis´ holy shrine.

    Without air support, the terrorists will massacre both the fighters and civlians, said one of the fighters. Helicopters of the anti-ISIS coalition were present but did not conduct attacks.

    Update 11:00 am: Duhola and Borik have fallen to ISIS. Only the pilgrimage Sharfadeen is being defended now, the resistance fighters try to stop the terrorists´ advance to the mountain – without success. They have nothing to offer opposition to the massive ISIS contingent of fighters.

    Update 11:07 am: Over 7,000 civilians and hundreds of fighters have fled to the mountains and are trying to protect themselves there. Several hundred fighters and their commanders do not want to give up the pilgrimage site and continue to defend it.

    Update 11:40 am: The mountain is now completely besieged. Fighters of the resistance units desperately try to hold the terrorists back from an invasion of the mountain. Over 7000 civlians remained on the mountain, should the terrorists manage to break through the defense line, massacres will be imminent again. The Ezidis have nothing to counter the terrorists´ armoured vehicles.

    Update 12:08 am: ]Suicide bombers of the Islamic State are now trying to penetrate into the mountain. A mist, however, reduces the Ezidi fighters´ visibility. A suicide bomber is said to have been blown himself up, information on victims are currently not available.

    Update 12:40 am: Fighters of the Ezidi defense unit have killed five ISIS terrorists in clashes in the northern part of the mountain. According to the Ezidi fighters, fighter jets of the coaltion forces are flying across the area, without intervening so far.

    Update 12:53 am: ISIS extremists advance to the Sharfadeen sanctuary. The Ezidi fighters who are deployed there refuse to leave the pilgrimage site. The central pilgrimage site in the region will be defended at any cost.

    Update 13:20 am: Two Ezidi resistance fighters have lost their lives in clashes with ISIS terrorists in the northern part of the mountain. Ezidi commanders urgently ask for airstrikes, stating that otherwise there would be no chance for them counter the terror squads. The major ISIS offensive seems to be a coordinated action regarding the fact that clashes also erupted between terrorist forces and Peshmerga soldiers in the last hours in areas of the Kurdish autonomous region.

    Update 13:33 am: ISIS terrorists have reached the access road to the Sharfadeen sanctuary, heavy clashes are being reported. The civilians persevere in the mountain and hope for support by airstrikes from the coalition forces.

    Update 14:06 pm: An ezidiPress correspondent reports that ISIS has started massive attacks on the Sharfadeen sanctuary. If airstikres are not being conducted, the pilgrimage site will be destroyed, tightening ISIS´s circumvallation.

    Update 15:19 pm: Refugees from Sinjar who are in refugee camps of the autonomous Kurdistan region demonstrate against ISIS attacks on Ezidis in the mountains. Many have still relatives there. There are reports on clashes with Kurdish security forces which we cannot confirm yet.

    Update: 15:54pm: There have been heavy clashes between Ezidi forces and ISIS terrorists in the western part of Mount Sinjar. According to our correspondent, 19 terrorists have been killed in those clashes, another three were arrested. Several Ezidi fighters have been killed, a specific figure is not available.

    Clashes between demonstrators and Kurdish security forces have been confirmed. Three demonstrators are said to have been injured by the security forces.

    Update 16:25 pm: Our correspondent reports that two airstrikes have been conducted by an Iraqi army helicopter which, however, missed its targets. Meanwhile, fightings near the pilgrimage site Sharfadeen continue with an increasing severity. The Ezidi resistance fighters do not want to leave the pilgrimage site to ISIS terrorists. Since August 3 they defend the central sanctuary in Sinjar region.

    Update 16:40 pm: 11 Ezidi resistance fighters have been killed in clashes near the Sharfadeen sanctuary so far.  The men “fought heroically to push back the terrorists”, said an ezidiPress correspondent on the ground.

    Update 18:30 pm: Massive counter attacks of Ezidi forces repelled the terrorists´ advance to the Sharfadeen sanctuary for the moment. An ezidiPress correspondent who is on the ground reports that ISIS terrorists are now mobilizing to attack the sanctuary with new forces. Ezidi resistance units are still on the alert. Further clashes in the evening and at night are to be expected.

    Update 18:53 pm: Fighters of Sinjar´s Resistance Unit YBS managed to seize with the support of a YPG unit seven ISIS vehicles near Shlo which is in the immediate vicinity of Mount Sinjar.

    Update 21:22 pm: ISIS terrorists have blown up the sanctuary of Quba Amadin in the south of Mount Sinjar. Our correspondent confirms the destruction.

    ++ End ++


    Boy those guys really don't like Yezidis and Kurds.





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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1525 - October 21, 2014, 04:33 PM

    ^IS fan boys on Twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/KekHamo/status/524582168912486400/photo/1
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1526 - October 21, 2014, 07:47 PM

    I hate IS fanboys.

    Anyway, this appears to be the crux of it:

    "Update 16:25 pm: Our correspondent reports that two airstrikes have been conducted by an Iraqi army helicopter which, however, missed its targets. Meanwhile, fightings near the pilgrimage site Sharfadeen continue with an increasing severity. The Ezidi resistance fighters do not want to leave the pilgrimage site to ISIS terrorists. Since August 3 they defend the central sanctuary in Sinjar region."

    The remaining Yazidis appear to be trying to defend a "holy site". Obviously it's the sort of thing IS would destroy as soon as they captured it, so some Yazidis have decided to try and save it. They should have got out when they had the chance. It's going to be very hard to hold it now, and I doubt the Kurds will be inclined to fight their way back in again.

    Best bet is probably to airlift civilians out.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1527 - October 21, 2014, 07:55 PM

    There are YPG fighters with the Yezidis and Peshmergas isolated on Mount Shingal. I would not rule out another YPG push from Syria towards mount Shingal as YPG in the eastmost canton of Rojava is not actively attacked by IS.

    However the KDP-regime in Iraqi Kurdistan might not despite the small Peshmerga force on Mount Shingal being theirs.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1528 - October 21, 2014, 08:25 PM

    Iraqi former MP and Shia cleric Ayad Jamal Al-Din is at it again, saying reasonable stuff and lambasting both Shia and Sunni fiqhs:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8coZIHX2mg0

    WikiPedia: Ayad Jamal Al-Din


    Wow, he is progressive. Very outspoken and looks like he wants reform and to enjoy the relatively good  free lives we in 'The West' are very lucky to enjoy. More like him please.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1529 - October 21, 2014, 09:24 PM

    I'm sceptical about the FSA but here's a list of 'moderate' rebel groups:

    http://notgeorgesabra.wordpress.com/2014/10/21/the-moderate-rebels-a-complete-and-growing-list-of-vetted-groups/

    Leila Al Shami calling for solidarity with the FSA as well as the Kurds:

    https://leilashrooms.wordpress.com/2014/10/20/the-struggle-for-kobane-an-example-of-selective-solidarity/
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