polygamy in "jannah" led me to leaving islam
Reply #190 - July 06, 2014, 04:58 PM
Seriously, man? You were saying that maybe God sent you to guide her. She doesn't want to talk to you about it.
If you want to talk about this stuff from a Quranist perspective, make that thread already. You know the drill. Don't bite the heels of a single member who wants nothing to do with it, especially during a stressful time in her life. Make another thread, and you'll probably get a lot of us backing her accusations against the Quran.
This forum isn't just for debate, it is also for people to connect and reach out for help and support. Just because she's on here doesn't mean she's asking for you to debate with her.
Maybe what you are saying is true. From the opening thread, it all started with the issue of hooris in the Quran.
She says:
I became a muslim over 5 years ago. I was very enthusiastic about islam, it meant everything to me. Couple of years ago i got married. My husband became the most important for me. Shortly after, I found out about the hooris - virgin wives in jannah. I was jealous but my husband promised to reject them. I believed. Just over a week ago I read some fatwas converning hooris and found out that i would not be jealous in paradise and my husband would not desire monogamous relationship with me, so he WILL get at least 2 hooris as wives plus a lot of concubines just for sex. Hearing that we would be brainwashed and have no free will i am shattered. I don't know if i still believe in islam but i am sure i don't want to be a muslim and go to "jannah". If islam is true, i prefer to spend eternity in the hellfire than to see my husband cheating on me every single day. Is this really PARADISE?! The worst thing is that my husband still wants to go to "jannah" after finding out about this pervert behaviour he will show there. I told himto chose between me and islam and last night,after 3 days of thinking, he chose islam.
This talk has NOTHING to do with Islam. At least not the Quran. That women are going to sit there in paradise watching their men having orgies. This is the most ridiculous thing I heard in my life.
That is what I am trying to point out. This quarrel is unnecessary.
Jesus confirmed my interpretation:
Mathew 22
23 That same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to him with a question. 24 “Teacher,” they said, “Moses told us that if a man dies without having children, his brother must marry the widow and raise up offspring for him. 25 Now there were seven brothers among us. The first one married and died, and since he had no children, he left his wife to his brother. 26 The same thing happened to the second and third brother, right on down to the seventh. 27 Finally, the woman died. 28 Now then, at the resurrection, whose wife will she be of the seven, since all of them were married to her?”
29 Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 31 But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”
33 When the crowds heard this, they were astonished at his teaching.
Jeusus here confirms my interpretation that the women of paradise and boys of paradise are comfort and servitude and not sexual partners.
Besides the point here, but the Sadducees rejected an after life. They asked him about where is that in the Torah and Old testament. Jesus said you are not paying attention to the scripture. God said I am the God of Abraham and Isaac many times. God can not be a god of the non existing. So basically this confirms that Abraham and Isaac are still alive and exist or else God would not have refered to Himself as the God of Abraham and Isaac and your forefathers if none of them exist anymore.
God is the God of the living and not the dead.
Jesus was awesome.
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