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  • Poet: I'm fucking angry at my parents' generation
     OP - October 05, 2013, 07:12 PM

    I was very moved and outraged by this interview. That there are children in Denmark growing up under these conditions is unacceptable. Shame on those who should protect them, politicians, social workers etc. Hopefully they will read this article and do something about it.


    We, who dropped out of education, were criminals and became bums - we were not let down by the system, but by our parents, says new poet.

    Who´s who
    Yahya Hassan
    •   He was born 19 May 1995.
    •   His parents came to Denmark as Palestinian refugees from Belbek in Lebanon.
    •   He grew up in Aarhus Vest with four siblings.
    •   His poem collection 'Yahya Hassan', will be published 25 October by Gyldendal.
    •   Now enrolled at the Author School in Copenhagen.



    BY TAREK OMAR

    "I'm fucking angry at my parents' generation, who came to Denmark in the late 1980s. The huge group of refugees who were supposed to be parents, have totally failed their children. As soon as our parents landed in Kastrup Airport, it was as if their role as parents ceased. And then we could see our fathers rot passively up on welfare on the couch with the remote in their hand, accompanied by a disillusioned mother who never objected. We who dropped out of education, we who were criminals, and bums, we were not let down by the system, but by our parents. We are the orphaned generation ".

    The words come from the 18-year-old Yahya Hassan, who this month debuts with a collection of poems, published by Gyldendal.

    In addition to the upcoming book publication, he was in September enrolled at the Author School in Copenhagen. At first glance he looks like a success, but just a year ago, he was thrown out of a high school, the year before he was remanded in custody for robbery, and before that he lived in a 'sports bag', which was packed every time he had to change the institution because of behavioral problems.
       
    Although today things look bright for Yahya Hassan, they were difficult to spot in a childhood of darkness in Aarhus Vest, which was marked by violence, fear and unpredictability.

    "I have been beaten as a child. Systematically  beaten. All my friends were brought up with beatings. My father spent time on finding punishments for me and my siblings. He forced us to stand on one leg facing the wall for hours with hands outstretched to each side. It's sick. It was not so much that they could not help us with our homework and cite classic poems, but rather that they could not be bothered with us that they did not take an interest in their own children, that's what makes me angry today. That's what I attack in my poems. They were just spectators who occasionally boxed our ears, in order to feel that they could still maintain order. "

    Maintain order?
    "Yes, they still felt a kind of parental feeling. The worst thing of all was that they actually had time for us, but used it on everything else. The men played cards, lounged about, went to the mosque and watched the news from the Middle East, while the women were busy gossiping and chasing special offers in the supermarket. When a spoiled upper-class boy today complains that his father was never there because he worked late into the night, there is a logic to it, which I understand. The father was away at work. The vast majority of fathers in the area where I grew up in Aarhus Vest, were unemployed and on welfare. They had all the time in the world, they could wish for, but did not use it on us. My father once had a job as a taxi driver, it just meant that he also was physically away. Nothing changed '.

    The social rottenness
    at the age of 13, Yahya Hassan was institutionalized after several years as a juvenile delinquent. He clearly remembers the night when two police officers and a social worker knocked on the door to their apartment.

    "My sister ran after the police car and knocked on the door with the snot running out of her nose and tears down her cheeks. It was like the culmination of the misery and rottenness through my childhood. That rottenness in the sub-culture, which I have never been able to let go. "

    Now you have personally had a very tough upbringing. Are you not just an unfortunate case among many other well-functioning families from the underclass?

    "No. The rot is everywhere in the ghettos. Just look at how many in the underclass world perceive welfare benefits and the State. While at the same time adult men can recite the entire Quran, go to mosque every day and play holier than thou, there is no problem associated with cheating and defrauding the system - especially when it comes to obtaining disability benefits. The social rottenness is profound. Look at how many young and healthy boys in the Danish ghettos, who, in the gym, can lift 100 kg  with arms stretched out and at the same time are awarded disability pension because they are not fit to work. Disability pension is what they strive for and celebrate when they get it. "

    It is very similar to the underclass that Karina Pedersen and Lisbeth Zornig previously described in this newspaper. Do you see any differences in the ethnic Danish and immigrant underclass?

    "The immigrant underclass is still not as experienced as the Danish underclass who have had several years in the business with welfare services. But hypocrisy is clearly higher in the immigrant underclass, which on the one hand, prides itself on being orthodox  Muslim and on the other hand are deceiving society. It's pathetic when someone from my hometown Aarhus, which I know does undeclared work and have cheated their way to benefits lectures me that I must behave properly. It is hard to take seriously. He asks his daughters to wear a headscarf, but ogles other women on the street when they walk past him. When I was a child playing on my uncle's computer, I was deeply surprised that it was filled with porn. He passed himself off as a saint. Those men live in a strange fantasy world where they can whore, drink and steal and in the evening go to the mosque and seek forgiveness. That way they can start again the day after, because they can just get absolution from God. It is a perverted approach to religion. I have no respect for that kind of hypocrisy. When Arabs from the Middle East look at the Arabs we have in Denmark, they refuse to believe that they are Arabs. "

    What do you think?
    "They know nothing of the Arabic literature, history and language and cultivate a form of subclass Islam, where they use of religion what suits them, and throw everything else away. The vast majority of immigrants in Denmark work and are law-abiding citizens, but the class in question is so large that it can no longer be ignored. "

    My teachers thought I was cheating
    When Yahya Hassan turned 13, he moved into an institution for the first time. He did not fit in and educators could not handle him, so he moved on to a new institution. This pattern continued for many years until he was moved to the institution Solhaven in northern Jutland where he first became acquainted with literature.

    "In Solhaven at first they thought, I was like the other delinquents. So they made me watch 'Matador' (beloved Danish TV series about the life in a small provincial town between 1929-1947) from morning till the afternoon. But one day we were to submit an essay about Facebook. I spent the whole weekend on it. When I turned it in, my teacher looked briefly on it and gave it back to me with the words: "Where have you stolen it? Cause you didn´t write it. " It made me so angry that I told her that I would write a new one right away and give it to her when the day was over. So I did. She could not believe her eyes. From that day on I saw no more 'Matador'. She gave me Danish classics, poems, short stories and heavier books. It was then that I discovered I could write. In Solhaven my teacher saw to it that I progressed, got writing courses and a stay in a high school. "

    That's when you started writing poetry?
    "Yes, it was as if it opened up an old wound in me, a place from where the words flowed out of me. Angry words. I wrote poetry while I was allowed to take  9th semester outside Solhaven. There I experienced what it is really like to be the outsider. Many of the middle-class parents did not want their children to associate with me, so I was often not invited to the festivities. I probably did not make it easy for them, but again I felt like the Perker '. (Perker – Danish pejorative for an immigrant)

    How?
    "Now suddenly I was the only one from the lower classes among well-functioning children. Looking at my life today, I have somehow gone from being subclass Perker to be upper class Perker. One day  I run away from the police, the next I am at Gyldendals Autumn reception, where I drink wine with the great writers. But I am still a Perker. Also  in the publisher's eyes. Take my editor at Gyldendal. One of the first things he said about my poetry collection, was whether we should give it the title 'Ghetto Poems'. I do not blame him, because he knows that is what the media wants. They will have a premium Perker. But I'm no fucking Naser Khader, Farshad Kholghi or Hassan Preisler, who play on the premium Perker-identity. It's all about conditions. I write autobiographical poems from the underclass on a historical parental failure. I'm not a role model or example for other young immigrants, you must promise that that is not the way you will present me in the interview. "

    The showdown that never came
    According to Yahya Hassan the largest fracture today is not the parents that failed, but rather the failed generation that has not managed to raise criticisms of their parents.
    "My generation has not managed to do battle with the giant failure of their parents. Especially the educated and so-called intellectual immigrants have not lived up to their responsibility to challenge, criticize and articulate the problems that we have gone through with the exception of a few in the public debate. They are the world's best critics when it comes to human rights and wars in the Middle East, but when it comes to their own backyard, they are mute and passive '.

    Why do you think your generation has not managed to raise criticism?
    "Many of the parents have time and again told their children, that they should be grateful that the parents fled to Denmark, for what would have become of the kids if they had remained in the refugee camp? As if they did us a favor. It is emotional blackmail, if you ask me, and a ridiculous argument which does not absolve the parents of their responsibilities. "

    You do not think it is because your generation of well-educated immigrants have been aware that their parents came from disadvantaged backgrounds, and therefore have been lenient with their deficiencies?

    "Yes, many have thought: one does not kick someone who is already lying down. But I also believe that the public debate in Denmark has had a negative effect. Immigrants have constantly been on the defensive since they came. Often  with good reason. But when, as a minority, you are on the defensive, you do not evolve, because self-criticism is put in the same category as the 'enemy's criticism. But in spite of everything, it surprises me that my generation has been silent. It is the parents who are the problem, they are the ones who caused so many boys with immigrant background to become criminals, to drop out of education, and be on benefits'.

    But when you clearly blame the parents, don´t you forget the individual responsibility, that these guys have for their own future?

    "If you have never learned what is right or wrong at home, it is difficult to make the right decisions as a young man. If your parents only raise you with beatings and Koranic quotes and never with profound conversations, it is hard to be prepared for what society has to offer you. When parents have done their part in creating a healthy and good person, you can talk about personal responsibility '.

    Now we have a gifted young man like you who speaks up about parental failure. What do you suggest should be done?

    'First, we must recognize that there is a huge problem here. And when I say we, I mean immigrants. Fear of conflict comes, oddly enough not from the ethnic Danes, but the immigrants themselves. Furthermore, there has been too much hesitation to place children with immigrant background outside of their home, even if the parents evidently were not able to be parents. Because they had a different culture, there has been a greater understanding for the fact that they beat up their children. That is what they do in the Middle East. In this misguided respect the ethnic Danes missed the mark. But first, my generation must deal with their parents 'failure'.

    CHILDHOOD
    Poem
    FIVE CHILDREN IN ROW AND A FATHER WITH A CLUB
    MULTIPLE CRYING AND A POOL OF PIS
    WE ALTERNATELY HOLD OUT A HAND 
    FOR PREDICTABILITY´S SAKE
    THAT SOUND OF THE STRIKES
    SISTER WHO JUMPS SO QUICKLY
    FROM ONE FOOT ONTO THE OTHER
    THE PISS IS LIKE A WATERFALL DOWN HER LEGS
    FIRST THE ONE HAND HELD OUT THEN THE OTHER
    IF NOT QUICKLY ENOUGH THEN THE STRIKES HIT RANDOMLY
    A STROKE A SCREAM A NUMBER 30 OR 40 SOMETIMES 50 
    AND A LAST HIT ON THE ARSE ON THE WAY OUT OF THE DOOR 
    HE TAKES BROTHER BY THE SHOULDERS STRAIGHTENING HIM UP
    CONTINUE TO HIT AND COUNT
    I LOOK DOWN AND WAIT FOR MY TURN
    MUM SMASHES PLATES IN THE STAIRWELL
    WHILE AT THE SAME TIME AL JAZEERA TV TRANSMITS
    HYPER ACTIVE BULLDOZERS AND OFFENDED BODY PARTS
    THE GAZASTRIP IN SUNSHINE
    FLAGS ARE BEING BURNED
    IF a ZIONIST DOES NOT ACKNOWLEDGE OUR EXISTENCE
    IF WE EXIST AT ALL
    WHEN WE ARE GASPING IN AGONY
    WHEN WE FIGHT TO CATCH OUR BREATH OR MEANING
    IN SCHOOL WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK ARABIC
    AT HOME WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK DANISH
    A KIND OF SCREAM A NUMBER

    http://politiken.dk/debat/ECE2095547/digter-jeg-er-fucking-vred-paa-mine-foraeldres-generation/







    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Poet: I'm fucking angry at my parents' generation
     Reply #1 - October 05, 2013, 10:08 PM

    Good article. I love his clear-eyed, unsentimental, all-embracing anger.

    This made me chuckle, and wince because I've seen it all too often in Britain.
    Quote
    Take my editor at Gyldendal. One of the first things he said about my poetry collection, was whether we should give it the title 'Ghetto Poems'.

  • Poet: I'm fucking angry at my parents' generation
     Reply #2 - October 05, 2013, 10:13 PM

    Nice find Paloma, thanks for sharing.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Poet: I'm fucking angry at my parents' generation
     Reply #3 - October 05, 2013, 10:16 PM

    Well, it's not just Denmark. I saw this played out in multiple cities in the US in refugee communities. All of it.
    Glad I got my kids out. I should print this, and show them when they are older.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Poet: I'm fucking angry at my parents' generation
     Reply #4 - October 06, 2013, 05:34 AM

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    I have somehow gone from being subclass Perker to be upper class Perker.

    No english word for perker?

    Well I never got beaten, but I sure know many with the same mindset as the parents. Good read.
  • Poet: I'm fucking angry at my parents' generation
     Reply #5 - October 06, 2013, 09:01 AM

    It's shared all over the place here in Denmark and people are discussing it - Danish Muslims together with the indigenous population. Some of immigrant background say they totally agree and tell of their own experiences, and some say it is not like this at all and this just adds fuel to the fire dividing the population. And I've even seen one shaming him because he just give the (allegedly all-racist) Danes another easy target to hit at and make every Muslim in Denmark look like a criminal and a misfit.

    I even saw a guy with an Arab name writing that he didn't deserve to live. But in general the discussions I have seen are well-tempered and I certainly think it is beneficial to look at. He is openly telling a lot of things that everyone knew, but nobody dared to mention. Also note that he says that most immigrants

    A couple of threads (in Danish):

    In "Dansk muslim debatten"

    In "Debatten om samfund og tro"

    No english word for perker?

    I think the closest thing is 'paki'.

    For you non-Danish out there - 'perker' probably comes from a combination of the words "Perser" (Persian) and "Tyrker" (Turk). It is about as derogatory as 'nigger'. And must only be used by perkere themselves. Unless you as a whitey have been given the right of perker-calling Tongue And then you should only exercise that right within the social context where you have been given that right.
    If I use the word "perker" among my (white) family and friends to describe Danes of alternative ethnic persuasions, they will find it very, very rude and probably wonder if I have gone totally crazy.

    Chris Rock's rules on when to use the "nigger" word somewhat apply here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iau-e6HfOg0

    By the way, I got called 'you are the wildest perker!' last night by a Danish hijabed Muslimah in Basra, Iraq after she publicly asked me out on a date - she would bring a religious book for us to read from... IT'S A TRAP!!! But calling me "perker" in that context is honorary Tongue And I got called that because my (white, atheist) family is larger than hers - so I win that one on the perker-o-meter!

    I blame Platysma from this site for having introduced the word into my everyday language use! I already have had few social faux pas Roll Eyes

    Paloma, thanks a lot for the translation - good stuff thnkyu

    That kid is damn bright - looking forward to hear more from him Smiley

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  • Poet: I'm fucking angry at my parents' generation
     Reply #6 - October 06, 2013, 12:36 PM

    Quote
    I blame Platysma from this site for having introduced the word into my everyday language use! I already have had few social faux pas Roll Eyes


    Awwwwww, I am honoured <3

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  • Poet: I'm fucking angry at my parents' generation
     Reply #7 - October 06, 2013, 12:56 PM

    Perker!

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  • Poet: I'm fucking angry at my parents' generation
     Reply #8 - October 07, 2013, 06:48 PM

    He just said on a national TV Internet-clip that he would urinate on Allah, his messenger and his unusable disciples.

    (In Danish - no subtitles):
    Part of his poem 'Langdigt' (literally 'long poem')

    So far the reaction from Danish Muslims are more baffled than hateful - some even say he has his points (not about pissing on Allah though - more about the hypocrisy among some lower-class immigrant Muslim people in Denmark - raking in welfare benefits and stuff).

    But - even for me it was kind of rude and respectless :O

    This will be interesting!

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  • Poet: I'm fucking angry at my parents' generation
     Reply #9 - October 07, 2013, 11:31 PM

    Ozzy pissed on the giant Jesus in Rio. If Ozzy can piss on the christian god, this bloke can piss on the Islamic god. But yes, it is disrespectful.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Poet: I'm fucking angry at my parents' generation
     Reply #10 - October 08, 2013, 11:07 AM

    He also said in the TV interview :

    "An Ismail from Mjølnerparken (Ghetto) asks me (on FB) why I am not a Muslim and I answer, that I am not because I don´t pray, I don´t fast and I smoke a lot of Hash. I also like to drink liquor and I like to have sex with Danish girls. He then says, that he does the same, but he is still a Muslim, so he recognizes the hypocracy, but maintains his Islamic identity."



    "

    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Poet: I'm fucking angry at my parents' generation
     Reply #11 - October 08, 2013, 11:13 AM

    He just said on a national TV Internet-clip that he would urinate on Allah, his messenger and his unusable disciples.

    (In Danish - no subtitles):
    Part of his poem 'Langdigt' (literally 'long poem')

    So far the reaction from Danish Muslims are more baffled than hateful - some even say he has his points (not about pissing on Allah though - more about the hypocrisy among some lower-class immigrant Muslim people in Denmark - raking in welfare benefits and stuff).

    But - even for me it was kind of rude and respectless :O

    This will be interesting!


    Really? All I see are hate comments, so hilarious XD
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