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  • Syria
     Reply #180 - October 30, 2016, 03:54 PM

    Well it is a bit unimpressive that the bookfair organisers weren't able to deal with it. urban75 thread on this.
  • Syria
     Reply #181 - October 30, 2016, 05:28 PM

    Yassin Al-Haj Saleh on Syria and the western left: https://theintercept.com/2016/10/26/syria-yassin-al-haj-saleh-interview/
  • Syria
     Reply #182 - October 31, 2016, 09:34 AM

    Some background on the rise of Islamism in Syria: http://almanac.afpc.org/Syria
  • Syria
     Reply #183 - October 31, 2016, 11:47 AM

    Some background on the rise of Islamism in Syria: http://almanac.afpc.org/Syria

      Cheesy     "Islamism"  That is a funny word ., Question is .,   I wonder whether these guys who wrote/write in to that site understand  that   "ISLAMISM IS THE PRODUCT OF  ISLAM &  ISLAMIC THEOLOGY /RELIGIOUS SCRIPTURES" ??

    and they have a funny picture of the "Islamism world map"   with these words under it

    Quote
    * Islamist activity levels are a subjective determination made by the American Foreign Policy Council. The scope of the World Almanac of Islamism does not encompass all countries. Those that are not represented are shaded gray.



    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Syria
     Reply #184 - October 31, 2016, 12:06 PM

    Yeez - The guy who updated the Syria entry seems well informed: https://mobile.twitter.com/ajaltamimi?lang=en-gb - unless I'm missing something. If I am then by all means say so.

    A comment on the bookfair incident from the other speaker: https://qunfuz.com/2016/10/31/anarchism/ I thought this was actually quite interesting.

    Edit: A Kurdish response to Yassin-Kassab's comment: http://kurdishquestion.com/article/3562-the-anarchist-bookfair-and-robin-yassin-kassab-039-s-problematic-approach-to-rojava

    ... and Yassin-Kassab's reply: https://qunfuz.com/2016/10/31/anarchism/#comment-49473
  • Syria
     Reply #185 - November 04, 2016, 06:56 PM

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    On November 2, 2016, the SOAS Syria Society hosted Robin Yassin-Kassab and Leila Al Shami, authors of the widely-acclaimed 'Burning Country: Syrians in Revolution and War' on the question of "What is at Stake in Aleppo?"

    They discussed the topics of Anti-Authoritarian Struggles in Syria, Syrian Voices and the Failures of the Left. It was followed by about an hour of Q&A with both speakers.

    Listen to the audio recording: https://soundcloud.com/hummusforthought/whatisatstakeinaleppo
  • Syria
     Reply #186 - November 04, 2016, 07:13 PM

    The above may leave the question of what may be being left out or played down. Some general comments on twitter from Budour Hassan: https://mobile.twitter.com/Budour48
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    Young Syrian men are the fuel of a war started by the regime and now being fought between powers that do not give a damn about them

    As pro-uprising we cannot use the same discourse of 2011 and 2012. Do not let our insistence on a certain narrative detach us from reality

    After suffering greatly at hands of regime, many Syrians have been betrayed and forsaken by the opposition and treated as hostages by rebels

    Of the powers leading the war in Aleppo, none cares about civilians or basic human rights.

    @KreaseChan @RedRazan sadly its not just some. War crimes are committed by the overwhelming bulk of the armed opposition

    The disparity in power & scale of crimes is undisputed but the Syrian armed oppo cannot claim to have the high moral ground over the regime

    @KreaseChan @RedRazan the initial justification and glossing over rebels crimes has gotten us to the point of no redemption

    @KreaseChan @RedRazan I am not referring to individual fighters but the structure and leadership

    @mrzine_notes @AliAbunimah I was always against military intervention. My mistake was not being sufficiently critical of  arming in 2012-13

    @omarsyria @KreaseChan @RedRazan From the start militarization was inextricably tied to rising sectarianism and Islamization

    @omarsyria @KreaseChan @RedRazan Again, am not referring to local fighters but to the structures that monopolised violence

    You cannot selectively cite Amnesty or HRW only when their reports match your narrative.

  • Syria
     Reply #187 - November 04, 2016, 07:50 PM

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    It’s time to give Assad’s soldiers a ticket out

    The popular narrative of the Syrian civil war is that of an apocalyptic conflict between two sets of diehard fanatics: The Sunni jihadists on one side, the Assad regime’s loyal soldiers on the other. But the reality on the ground is much more nuanced. Many Syrian recruits would like to avoid army service, but, for various reasons, are unable to do so. Their presence within the ranks of the regime doesn’t necessarily mean that they support it.

    This situation represents a missed opportunity. While Western analysts repeatedly call for arming the opposition and establishing no-fly zones, there has been no emphasis whatsoever on establishing incentives that could encourage desertions among government troops and pro-government militias...

    Read the article: http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/11/04/its-time-to-give-assads-soldiers-a-ticket-out/

    Andrea Glioti on twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/andreaglioti
    Quote
    In the FP piece there was an original reference on how deserters should be supported to resettle elsewhere (not in neighboring countries).

    just to make clear that I am totally convinced that remote asylum applications should be facilitated but all of this was unfortunately left out for word limits

  • Syria
     Reply #188 - November 06, 2016, 07:00 PM

    BBC report on the operation to capture Raqqa: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37889133

    Twitter thread from Budour Hassan critical of the SDF move on Raqqa, amongst other things:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Budour48/status/795313491871756288

    Also: https://mobile.twitter.com/Budour48/status/795307782870339584 https://mobile.twitter.com/Budour48/status/795341200689688576

    Marc Lynch on the prospects for US intervention against Assad: http://warontherocks.com/2016/10/whats-really-at-stake-in-the-syria-debate/
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    The collapse of U.S.-Russian diplomacy and the escalating atrocities in Aleppo have once again opened the floodgates for ideas on how to intervene in Syria. These ideas are all familiar: typically some combination of no-fly zones, air strikes, and arming the opposition. The goals range from civilian protection, to evening the balance of power to facilitate diplomacy, to toppling the Assad regime by force. It may seem odd that these proposals have changed so little over the years despite having failed to persuade previously and despite the dramatic evolution of the Syrian conflict.

    This is confusing only if evaluated from the starting point that the purpose of these ideas is primarily to end the Syrian war or to reduce human suffering.  For the most part, it is not.

    Mikhail Khodarenok on 'why Assad's army can't win the war': https://citeam.org/here-s-why-assad-s-army-can-t-win-the-war-in-syria/
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    The following is a translation of a scathing article on the state of the Syrian Arab Army that appeared in an online outlet Gazeta.ru, which is Kremlin-controlled but sometimes critical of the Russian authorities online. The author is a retired Russian officer with 8 years of experience working in the General Staff and 5 years as an editor of an established military magazine. The article, originally titled "It would be easier to disband the Syrian army and recruit a new one", mirrors the emerging Syria fatigue sentiments in the Russian military circles and reportedly was confirmed by a serving Russian colonel, who added "Everything is like it’s written but worse". The expert notably omits mentioning regime war crimes even when describing the use of barrel bombs. Throughout the text, he calls Syrian rebels "militants" and "illegal armed groups" — terms widely used by Russian military and media to describe Chechen fighters during the wars. This anti-rebel stance perhaps lends even more credibility to the author’s assessment of their capabilities versus those of the SAA.

  • Syria
     Reply #189 - November 08, 2016, 09:24 AM

    Sam Heller - What It’s Like to Meet Assad in Damascus

    Discussion on twitter:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/syrianviews/status/795915861575929856

    https://mobile.twitter.com/AASchapiro/status/795713824326356992
  • Syria
     Reply #190 - December 04, 2016, 11:38 AM

    Letter from rebel-controlled Idlib

    Sam Heller - Keeping the lights on in rebel Idlib
  • Syria
     Reply #191 - December 18, 2016, 06:02 PM

    A facebook post copied onto a thread on urban75 - I don't have a link for the original post. Incidentally some of the people posting on that thread (notably, but not only, 'Casually Red' and 'camouflage') exemplify the problems Dilar Dirik is commenting on, with 'leftist' and 'anti-imperialist' positions on Syria that are increasingly hard to distinguish from fascism.

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    FB post from Dilar Dirik on some of the left's reactions in recent days...

    "Truth is always the first casualty of the war they say. How true, especially looking at propaganda coming from all sides, following the fall of Aleppo, which is yet another episode of the ordeal that the war in Syria has been for years now.

    I am disgusted by the simplicity of positions, dogmatism of ideas, and in some cases complete lack of moral decency in the analyses and pseudo-analyses of what is going on in Aleppo and in Syria, actually, the Middle East, in general. Admittedly, the entire war has been full of propaganda, lies, and fabricated truths, but what some people without any connection to the region are shouting out from their pseudo-revolutionary armchairs is mind-blowingly grotesque and despicable. Some are creating imperialistic interventionist fantasies, some are openly congratulating the bloodthirsty Assad regime and deny its war crimes, some act like the rebels are an army of angels who deserve enthusiastic mindless support, some just say nevermind and abandon all hope for the millions of civilians affected by this war. I am not talking about the mainstream, but leftists here!

    Too many immoral claims have been made, but at this particular time, it is especially violent to see how so many “enlightened”, “progressive” people vehemently *DENY* the blood bath caused by Assad and the Syrian army and portray him as a lesser evil as if they were the ones who lost entire families to this fascist dictator. Similarly, where were all of the people who stand up for Aleppo now, when rebels were using internationally banned weapons on civilians in the pre-dominantly Kurdish Sheikh Maqsoud district? These people either live in a fantasy world or they have no respect for humanity.

    What if someone told us that IT IS POSSIBLE to have a goddamn complex, morally tenable, realistic view on things, by being an open-minded, honest, genuine, concerned, and active person, whose objective is not “being right”, but justice and freedom for this war-town country and by actually respecting the dynamic voices coming from Syria itself? You don’t need to have a perfectly flawless position, because that is simply not a realistic choice in this war, unless you decide to never get your hands dirty, lean back, and enjoy the bloodshed.

    This means that you can actually be anti-Assad without being an apologist for other forms of fascism, state or non-state. You can be pro-revolution without pretending like all the rebels are innocent human rights defenders. You can understand that the initial revolutionary atmosphere was hijacked later on by jihadists, regional powers and international dynamics without falling for Assad’s narrative that a true opposition never existed. You can recognize that anti-imperialism means to be against all imperialists, not just your most hated one.

    You can support Rojava without hating on the Syrian revolutionaries and denying their existence. You can support the truly democratic Syrian revolutionaries even if they don’t have a systematized project like in Rojava or enough women or radical leftist ideas in their structures. You can sympathize with Arab scepticism of Rojava while being mindful of the historic legacy of systematic racism and chauvinism against Kurds in Syria. You can support refugees without ignoring socio-economic dimensions and conditions that enable some to leave, but not others. You can advocate against war, intervention and arms trade and still recognize that self-defense and armed struggle for survival are undeniable realities – see Kobane. You can hate ISIS’s guts without being a racist or Islamophobe. You can fight Islamophobia without silencing Middle Eastern people, especially non-Muslims, who critical of or even struggling against Islam. And so and so on.

    But the very worst thing you can be is a messed up, clueless, self-righteous online commentator, who is not organized anywhere and has nothing to lose when fabricating crap to incite even more divisions and hostilities! Down with your political analyses that are deprived of ethics and human decency! People like you are the reason this world is turning into hell on earth!

    Freedom for Rojava – Freedom for the free, democratic, multi-cultural Syria!"

  • Syria
     Reply #192 - December 20, 2016, 11:14 AM

    A facebook post copied onto a thread on urban75 - I don't have a link for the original post...............

    , with 'leftist' and 'anti-imperialist' positions on Syria ............


    Syria, Yemen, Libya — one factor unites these failed states, and it isn’t religion  by By Jack Goldstone   November 30, 2015



    that is worth reading...but it is  NOT  completely true "that  religions.......faiths.......faith heads  have no role in creating chaos and destruction across the globe" ., once you lit the flame around the flammable material(the faith heads)  winds will  take care of the direction of fire,   And and  imperialism or anti-imperialism  has different meaning in 21st century..  it is hard not to recognize the so-called rulers in so-called communist nations of past and present are NOT Imperialists ..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Syria
     Reply #193 - December 20, 2016, 06:25 PM

    Twitter thread - on giving a platform to Western jihadists:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mariamjxde/status/811247681565761536
  • Syria
     Reply #194 - December 21, 2016, 05:35 PM

    Syria, Yemen, Libya — one factor unites these failed states, and it isn’t religion  by By Jack Goldstone   November 30, 2015

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    that is worth reading...but it is  NOT  completely true "that  religions.......faiths.......faith heads  have no role in creating chaos and destruction across the globe" ., once you lit the flame around the flammable material(the faith heads)  winds will  take care of the direction of fire,   And and  imperialism or anti-imperialism  has different meaning in 21st century..  it is hard not to recognize the so-called rulers in so-called communist nations of past and present are NOT Imperialists ..

    Hmmm, the title says that it isn't worth reading.
  • Syria
     Reply #195 - December 21, 2016, 05:39 PM



    Taking YPG aside, who do you root for Zeca, Assad or the rebels?
  • Syria
     Reply #196 - December 21, 2016, 06:13 PM

    I'm completely against Assad. The rebels are more complicated as they cover a wide range of groups, interests and ideologies. I couldn't say I support the 'rebels' as some kind of collective entity but I'm sympathetic to parts, at least, of what's left of the original secular opposition and to organisations like the white helmets and the local coordination committees. I'm opposed to the jihadi rebel groups but more secular armed groups have also sometimes behaved very badly. It's clear that taking up arms against Assad has been a disaster all round. In particular the rebel attempt to take Aleppo early on in the war turned out to be a disastrous misjudgement and helped lead to the current situation. Even the YPG I've got some reservations about. At this point I don't see any prospect of the rebels turning round their military losses, and if they did it would likely mean fresh disasters for parts of the country that have so far largely escaped the fighting. I think I'd mostly agree with Dilar Dirik's facebook comment, the one I posted above, though maybe with more scepticism about Rojava and the idea of a 'Syrian revolution'.
  • Syria
     Reply #197 - December 21, 2016, 07:30 PM

    'Most Syrian Christians aren't backing Assad (or the rebels)'

    https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/most-syrian-christians-aren-t-backing-assad-or-rebels#
  • Syria
     Reply #198 - December 21, 2016, 07:47 PM

    ..

    I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
  • Syria
     Reply #199 - December 21, 2016, 07:48 PM

    ..

    I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
  • Syria
     Reply #200 - December 21, 2016, 09:21 PM


    So zeca who is using mustard gas and other chemical weapons and gases ??
    Because both assad and rebels are accusing each other.
    And victims are on both sides, shia and sunni towns.

    I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
  • Syria
     Reply #201 - December 21, 2016, 09:24 PM

    https://www.rt.com/news/370653-syria-chemical-aleppo-militants-opcw/

    http://time.com/4492670/syria-chemical-weapon-aleppo-assad-regime/

    I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
  • Syria
     Reply #202 - December 21, 2016, 10:05 PM

    Assad has used chemical weapons. There may have been use by rebels as well (tbh I don't really know) though I wouldn't rely on RT as a source for this.
  • Syria
     Reply #203 - December 22, 2016, 03:17 PM

    I'm completely against Assad. The rebels are more complicated as they cover a wide range of groups, interests and ideologies. I couldn't say I support the 'rebels' as some kind of collective entity but I'm sympathetic to parts, at least, of what's left of the original secular opposition and to organisations like the white helmets and the local coordination committees. I'm opposed to the jihadi rebel groups but more secular armed groups have also sometimes behaved very badly. It's clear that taking up arms against Assad has been a disaster all round. In particular the rebel attempt to take Aleppo early on in the war turned out to be a disastrous misjudgement and helped lead to the current situation. Even the YPG I've got some reservations about. At this point I don't see any prospect of the rebels turning round their military losses, and if they did it would likely mean fresh disasters for parts of the country that have so far largely escaped the fighting. I think I'd mostly agree with Dilar Dirik's facebook comment, the one I posted above, though maybe with more scepticism about Rojava and the idea of a 'Syrian revolution'.


    Thank you, Í was rooting for Assad from the beginning as I knew the salafists will get the upper hand in the FSA. For me it's just choosing the lesser evil. I hope you are well aware what would have happened with non sunnis if the rebels would have won.
  • Syria
     Reply #204 - December 22, 2016, 03:24 PM



    That is simply not true. If at the beginning of the revolution there were some Christians or Druze who supported the rebels, I doubt there is anyone left. The onlly alternative to FSA/rebels is Assad. There are no Alawites, Shias, Ismailis, Druzes, Christians, Yazidis in the rebels held territories. Look what happened with the druzes from the 2 Druze villages in Ildib.

    http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/the-massacre-of-druze-villagers-in-qalb-lawza-idlib-province/
  • Syria
     Reply #205 - December 22, 2016, 03:36 PM



    zeca I will take that article with PINCH OF SALT  FROM RED SEA  AND RED PEPPER



    Quote
    'Islam and Democracy: When do Religious Actors Decide to Support Democratic Transition', Arab Reform Initiative, June 2016.
    'The Future of Political Salafism in Egypt and Tunisia', Carnegie Middle East Center, Beirut, November 2015.

    'Market for Jihad: Radicalization in Tunisia' (With Hamza Meddeb), Carnegie Middle East Center, Beirut, October 2015.

    'The Struggle for the Leadership of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood', Carnegie Middle East Center, Beirut, July 2015.

    'The Coptic Church and Politics in Egypt', Carnegie Middle East Center, Beirut, December 2014.

    - See more at: https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/georges-fahmi#sthash.YysmttLs.dpuf


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Syria
     Reply #206 - December 22, 2016, 07:28 PM

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    Yet both of these groups – those who support the regime or the revolution – are a minority among Christians. The majority are neither with the regime nor with the opposition. They look sceptically toward the revolution, particularly after its Islamization – but neither do they support the regime.

    zeca I will take that article with PINCH OF SALT  FROM RED SEA  AND RED PEPPER

    I don't know really - you may be right.
  • Syria
     Reply #207 - December 22, 2016, 07:58 PM

    I don't know really - you may be right.

    clearly that guy is NOT living in syria and he hardly written anything  on anything., he sounds like high school student on history of Syria  ., Every fellow in this forum knows more about Syria than that fellow..

    do we  have any counter arguments /vidoes for these ??  

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luji-N-UW0g

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsJ7iV3tiFg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahgbxsshixg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbTolRyimp4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpmhvHXNZ5g


    Did the Americans  talk to any Christians over there ??   or they just give bombs to  Snakes of sand land  and watch  ERDO_GOON  talk nonsense .,There is a total confusion in Syria..

    Don't we know in which cities of Syria Christians were present before civil war and where they are now??

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Syria
     Reply #208 - December 22, 2016, 08:06 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-ZU-r5sDeY

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Syria
     Reply #209 - December 22, 2016, 08:17 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HwTVYcajoA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCodJRNc3K4

    smart guy  Cheesy Cheesy

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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