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 Topic: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28

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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #270 - February 23, 2012, 08:34 PM

    [acid-fueled raving]

    Wow man. That's a totally awesome concept!

    [/acid-fueled raving]

    Back to reality. Tongue

    Look, I don't have a problem with the assertion that some designers would prefer models to look like boys. Never have had a problem with that. I wouldn't even have a problem with the assertion that at least one (currently unidentified) designer might be both gay and a raging paedophile. It's quite likely one does exist somewhere in the fashion world. I fail to see how that would reflect on all the others though.

    Even if some designers want models to look like boys, that still doesn't explain the push towards anorexic models. Neither does evolutionary theory, since anorexia is very unhealthy and is recognised as such by anyone who isn't anorexic. I doubt there are many people, gay or straight, male or female, who get the hots over anorexia.

    I still think that something else is going on here.

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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #271 - February 23, 2012, 08:35 PM

    Yes, it plays a part, but that does not mean that body shapes seen in modern chimps are relevant to the body shapes modern humans find attractive.


    Which I conceded. Not necessary for my 'theory' though.

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    However it is very popular in some hunter-gatherer societies. You were opining about hunter-gatherer societies, yes?


    Some yes, not the one that won out though. Still not an important part of the eqaution, in the discussion of gay influence on the shape of women in the fashion industry.

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    Well, no. Six percent is actually closer to one in fifteen, and very close to one in sixteen.


    Lol, it is late, 1 in 17 if you round it up. Still a lot less than the one in ten most people are led to believe.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #272 - February 23, 2012, 08:36 PM

    Is it possible to see this through a different angle. I am not sure if it works though, can't think like a bisexual lol. Say it was rampant chemical-filled heterosexuals who were at the pinnacle of the fashion world. Then say they were using men as models to sell clothes to women. How long before there would be a cavalcade of shemale(ish)men strutting their stuff down the catwalk?


    But is this scenario feasible? If the only thing that makes it unfeasible is the mention of drugs, then it does have some legs. You do know the fashion industry is renowned for cocaine use.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #273 - February 23, 2012, 08:42 PM


    Even if some designers want models to look like boys, that still doesn't explain the push towards anorexic models. Neither does evolutionary theory, since anorexia is very unhealthy and is recognised as such by anyone who isn't anorexic. I doubt there are many people, gay or straight, male or female, who get the hots over anorexia.

    I still think that something else is going on here.


    Anorexia could be classed as the casualties of those trying to achieve the skinny/skinny look. The ones who just went a step to far. Tbh don't know much about anorexia, I was mainly concerning myself with the adolescent boy look of female models, rather than the anorexics.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #274 - February 23, 2012, 08:51 PM

    No, anorexia cannot be classed just as the casualties when you have agents telling a top model that "this year's look is anorexia".

    I'm mainly concerned with the health aspects. I don't actually care if they look like elephants in tutus.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #275 - February 23, 2012, 08:54 PM

    Operative word is 'look' - not a doctors note saying that you are indeed one. Though currently it seems the look is androgynous (but still skinny,skinny)

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #276 - February 25, 2012, 09:40 AM

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    Is it possible to see this through a different angle. I am not sure if it works though, can't think like a bisexual lol. Say it was rampant chemical-filled heterosexuals who were at the pinnacle of the fashion world. Then say they were using men as models to sell clothes to women. How long before there would be a cavalcade of shemale(ish)men strutting their stuff down the catwalk?

    But is this scenario feasible? If the only thing that makes it unfeasible is the mention of drugs, then it does have some legs. You do know the fashion industry is renowned for cocaine use.


    Oops, wasn't meant to be questioning/answering my own thoughts. It was meant for you osmanthus.

    Look, I don't have a problem with the assertion that some designers would prefer models to look like boys. Never have had a problem with that. I wouldn't even have a problem with the assertion that at least one (currently unidentified) designer might be both gay and a raging paedophile. It's quite likely one does exist somewhere in the fashion world. I fail to see how that would reflect on all the others though.

    Even if some designers want models to look like boys, that still doesn't explain the push towards anorexic models. Neither does evolutionary theory, since anorexia is very unhealthy and is recognised as such by anyone who isn't anorexic. I doubt there are many people, gay or straight, male or female, who get the hots over anorexia.


    My whole case is that because gay designers want models tohave the bodies of boys/adolescent youth/young men etc that we have the problem with anorexia. Hardly any women can maintain a body mass index of 18 (the minimum allowed by some of the fashion industry), which is what a tall woman needs to look defeminised — without abusing their body. I think there will be some models who eat healthily and have a BMI of 18 but there are others who have died trying. The designers are building clothes around their fantasies.. and their fantasy is beautiful teenage boys/youth/young men.

    And I mentioned evolutionary theory because men are hard-wired to seek youth. And the only way to get tall models found on the catwalk to resemble the bodies of teenage boys/youth (14-19 say) is for them to be skinny which raises the ugly head of anorexia.

    Ultimately it is a designer’s choice of who is cast in seasonal runway shows and in the advertising campaigns their fans scrutinize. So selecting models who appear fit, healthy, and strong would undoubtedly set a precedent. Especially if the precedent is set by the brilliant ga designers at the top of their industry.

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    I still think that something else is going on here.


    Any ideas ? - imo you strip away everything else, what you are left with is sexuality/libido.



    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #277 - February 25, 2012, 04:18 PM

    No ideas at the moment, why is why someone should do an actual study on it rather than just making assumptions.

    Just a note about BMI: it is not intended to be used as a diagnosis of individuals. It was only ever intended to give an overall indication for populations. Yes, I know it is applied to individuals these days, but that is completely incorrect usage of it and potentially dangerous for some people.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index

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    BMI was explicitly cited by Keys as being appropriate for population studies, and inappropriate for individual diagnosis. Nevertheless, due to its simplicity, it came to be widely used for individual diagnosis, despite its inappropriateness.


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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #278 - February 27, 2012, 07:30 PM

    No ideas at the moment, why is why someone should do an actual study on it rather than just making assumptions.


    Fella, i thought we had tested my assumptions, you asked three questions and I think my responses have stood up. Even more so when given the heterosexual analogy. (I will add, if my analogy fits, then the sorta model going down the catwalk would probably have been Andrej Pejic. Ironic lol. There does seem to be a specific problem with anorexia/skinny look on the catwalk, the domain of the gay man, but heterosexual man's 'love of youth' also brings the same problems but this time they are moulding them girls to look and act on their own libidos terms rather than dressing them up and thinning them down. I allude to porn/glamour/lap dancers?MTV dancers and/or how to act like one. Not that I am against porn per se, but it does seep into society and imo affect/effect young girls (and boys).

    Therefore the study should not be restricted to homosexual influence in fashion but figuring out  if the media really is dirty old man on a buzz lol. Now the real question is how many of them are Jews. (only kidding).



    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #279 - February 27, 2012, 07:33 PM

    Yes, I know you think your responses have stood up. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Smiley

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #280 - February 27, 2012, 09:04 PM

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    Yes, I know you think your responses have stood up.


    Pity, yours didn't. I don't know being your response. lol

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #281 - February 27, 2012, 11:47 PM

    Sometimes, "I don't know" is the correct response.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #282 - February 28, 2012, 09:27 AM

    I don't know why they don't just use young, skinny, teenage boys as the models if that's the look they're trying to achieve.   wacko    grin12

    "The greatest general is not the one who can take the most cities or spill the most blood. The greatest general is the one who can take Heaven and Earth without waging the battle." ~ Sun Tzu

  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #283 - February 28, 2012, 02:38 PM

    That would be the easiest option.

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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #284 - February 28, 2012, 03:48 PM

    I don't know why they don't just use young, skinny, teenage boys as the models if that's the look they're trying to achieve.   wacko    grin12


    They do, to wit Andrej Pejic :



    http://www.eurowoman.dk/mode/nyheder/Herremodellen-Andrej-Pejic-brugt-i-lingeri-kampagne/


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/16/dossier-andrej-pejic-cover-censored_n_862424.html

    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #285 - October 26, 2013, 07:40 PM

    Wasn't this a battle and a half Oz?

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
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