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 Topic: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway

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  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #210 - July 27, 2011, 01:50 PM

    I don't see Pat Condell as necessarily right-wing, he criticizes Islam just as much as he criticizes Christianity, in fact his career began through his strong criticisms of Christianity. He does have a poisonous tone to his videos, but I think it's stupid to pin him down as a catalyst.


    Nothing wrong with criticising Islam, and yes he does criticise Christianity but he doesn't call for a restriction on what Christians can wear nor does he want a ban on Churches. He wants to ban the "9/11 mosque" and the burka. I don't remember saying he was a catalyst for what happened in Norway, I said:

    He is responsible for a lot of right-wing bigoted crap on the internet.

  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #211 - July 27, 2011, 01:55 PM

    Yea, hes a crazy bitch... that norwegian nazi,christain,rightwing whatever he is.

    I say put him into jail with ten 8 feet tall gay guys for 50 years. (And pay them well!)

    "We are never deceived, we deceive ourselves." - from Goethes Faust
    "Only the wisest and the stupidest men never change." - Confuzios
    "there is no religion of peace, only people who are peaceful while being religious."
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #212 - July 27, 2011, 02:20 PM

    His favourite comedian was Pat Condell. I wonder if that old cunt will make a video about this *won't hold her breath*

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVbUzbLC5GE

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #213 - July 27, 2011, 07:36 PM


    Take Norway by the hand

    http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/lenke.php

    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #214 - July 28, 2011, 12:23 AM



    So he's basically saying "nothing wrong with his views, its just his method that sucks".
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #215 - July 28, 2011, 12:34 AM

    I don't see him addressing the validity of the killer's views at any point during that video.  Huh?
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #216 - July 28, 2011, 12:48 AM

    At 1;56 he says "no-one who criticises Islam or multiculturalism is in anyway responsible for this lunatics actions"---that I agree with but his rant just after makes it seem like he's been reading from that nutters manifesto and the way he says "and all the criticisms are still valid" which criticisms is he talking about? And he still is anti-freedom so fuck him.
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #217 - July 28, 2011, 02:14 AM

    Aphrodite, from what I can gather, he says nothing positive or remotely positive about Anders. It's a great video by Pat, "anyone who uses or advocates violence for any political reason is my enemy. No exception."

  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #218 - July 28, 2011, 02:25 AM

    Still a bigot. FREEDOM


    Ban places of worship
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #219 - July 28, 2011, 02:59 AM

    I don't see how you're equating a superficial similarity in ideology between Condell and the killer with something more than coincidence.

    I mean, I don't really think twice about the fact that I've shared an Atheist worldview with guys like Stalin and Mao. It's just a coincidence and bad motherfuckers will do bad things, it doesn't nullify the validity of any of my views.
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #220 - July 28, 2011, 11:34 AM

    Still a bigot. FREEDOM


    Ban places of worship

    Yes that fucking bigot  Pat Condell.

    But our  32 year old hero with 1500 pages rubbish and high power rifle with lots of ammunition   who murdered 90 or so kids in cold blood  also    names  and quotes from  the words of  Wafa  Sulatn , Ali  Sina, Ayan Hirsi Ali, Ibn Warraq , Bat Yeor     Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Geert Wilders and many others   in his manifesto.

     I don't know what to make out of his manifesto..

    Freedom of Expression is a Fundamental Right  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #221 - July 29, 2011, 03:25 PM

    Obviously, he got what he wanted. His manifesto is all over the internet...everybody seems to have read it by now.

    "We are never deceived, we deceive ourselves." - from Goethes Faust
    "Only the wisest and the stupidest men never change." - Confuzios
    "there is no religion of peace, only people who are peaceful while being religious."
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #222 - July 29, 2011, 05:40 PM

    I wonder whether you know any link that gives name of those young fellows who were  killed by this brutal rogue on that island..


    Here is a list, with picture, name, age and where they are from:
    http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/ofre/

    Bukhari 62:142 - Narrated Anas bin Malik:
       The Prophet used to pass by (have sexual relation with) all his wives in one night, and at that time he had nine wives.
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #223 - July 30, 2011, 11:00 PM

    Incredible brutal ROGUE with free acess to fire arms. Read his manifesto..  It is the state that failed ., his father, a womanizer squarely failed in his responsibility as a parent..  

    http://www.kevinislaughter.com/wp-content/uploads/2083+-+A+European+Declaration+of+Independence.pdf



    Bit late to the game in reading this - but wow - just skimming through this document. All I can think of right now, reading some of this where there are quotes of Orwell and Churchill, is that just like Harry Potter or any religious book: you put enough ideas and anything becomes a reality that is justified with enough rationalization inside one's mind. There are links to the telegraph.co.uk, nato.int, sky.com, civitas.org.uk, timesonline.co.uk and yes faithfreedom.org, jihadwatch.com and others. I don't think I have the time to get through all of this 1,500 document ... but wow - what a sinister joining of dots to justify and outrageous act of terror.
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #224 - August 01, 2011, 09:32 PM

    mr. hassan aksed me to post this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHAjSRPdNBg
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #225 - August 02, 2011, 03:20 PM

    Breivik manifesto' details chilling attack preparation

    Quote
    Anders Behring Breivik wanted the government to resign and Japanese specialists to assess his mental health, Geir Lippestad told reporters. The far-right extremist admits killing eight people with a bomb in Oslo and shooting dead 69 on Utoeya island.... Meanwhile, the leader of the right-wing Progress Party has warned that Norway still faces a serious Islamist threat.

    "All the debates that we had prior to 22 July will come back. All the challenges that Norway was facing and the challenges that the world was facing are still there. Al-Qaeda is still there," Siv Jensen told the AFP news agency.

    "The new thing is that we have been in a horrible way reminded of the fact that terrorism can come in many different forms, with different rhetoric behind it, with different crazy ideas behind it."

    Ms Jensen also said in another interview that the anti-Muslim views of Mr Breivik, who was a member of the Progress Party between 1999 and 2006, were "perversely unique" and that it was not aware of his plans


    Freedom of Expression is a Fundamental Right  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #226 - August 03, 2011, 02:57 PM

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/the-married-lesbian-couple-who-saved-40-teens-from
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #227 - August 03, 2011, 03:14 PM



    That link says The Married Lesbian Couple Who Saved 40 Teens From The Norway Shooter

    If that Married Lesbian Couple  learned how to shoot and shoot this BRUTAL NUT CASE IN THE HEAD, they would have saved more..

    Freedom of Expression is a Fundamental Right  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #228 - August 03, 2011, 03:17 PM

    Haha it's Norway, not the US -- I don't think it's as commonplace to just happen to be carrying one around.
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #229 - August 03, 2011, 03:23 PM

    Haha it's Norway, not the US -- I don't think it's as commonplace to just happen to be carrying one around.

     
    Norway or not people better learn.. In this interactive world you can not live like the turtles of Galapagos islands.  The news says  Norway Shooter Demands Cigarettes, Complete Overthrow of Society  

    This Nut case has DEMANDS., Demands..,  

    The rogue should be put in mobile cage along with the pictures of 90 or so innocent folks whom this rogue mercilessly shot down  and move him around the zoos of the major cities of the planet.. Off course provide him three meals  a day....

    Freedom of Expression is a Fundamental Right  
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #230 - April 17, 2012, 08:31 PM


    The trial against Anders Behring Breivik started yesterday. Here is a video of his arrival in the courtroom :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa6ChSXz1Qg&feature=related

    On the first day of the trial, the names of all his victims and the circumstances under which they died were read out. It took over an hour. During this ABB was completely unmoved, however, when his propaganda film was shown he couldn´t hold back tears !

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hZBwc4ZpHOU#!

    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Anders Breivik trial
     Reply #231 - April 17, 2012, 08:46 PM

    It sounds like the trial and all the publicity is going exactly how he would have wanted.  He is probably pleased with his performance in the court. He calmly read out a 6000 word speech!
    He is clearly a narcissist with a big ego, and he saw the opportunity to become a hero among a certain segment of society.

    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

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  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #232 - April 17, 2012, 08:50 PM

    He's clearly ill, he needs hospitalisation. I'm glad they aren't allowing his testimony to be broadcasted.

    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #233 - April 17, 2012, 09:08 PM

    Quote
    Breivik boasts of 'spectacular' Norway massacre

    Norwegian gunman Anders Behring Breivik insisted Tuesday he would massacre 77 people all over again, calling his July rampage the most "spectacular" attack by a nationalist militant since the Second World War.

    Reading a prepared statement in court, the anti-Muslim extremist lashed out at Norwegian and European governments for embracing immigration and multiculturalism. He claimed to be speaking as a commander of an anti-Islam militant group he called the Knights Templar — a group that prosecutors say does not exist.

    Maintaining he acted out of "goodness, not evil" to prevent a wider civil war, Breivik vowed, "I would have done it again."

    CBC News

    What a sick fuck.

    ونحن نحب الحياة إذا ما استطعنا إليها سبيلا
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #234 - April 17, 2012, 09:10 PM

    It sounds like the trial and all the publicity is going exactly how he would have wanted.  He is probably pleased with his performance in the court. He calmly read out a 6000 word speech!
    He is clearly a narcissist with a big ego, and he saw the opportunity to become a hero among a certain segment of society.


    He's getting everything he wanted. Very disturbing. This is his moment.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #235 - April 17, 2012, 09:13 PM

    He's clearly ill, he needs hospitalisation. I'm glad they aren't allowing his testimony to be broadcasted.


    The doctors have said he isn't mentally ill.

    Humans really do have a capacity for evil like this - you can't put it down to mental illness. We have to face it that men with clear heads can do this out of ideology and hate. He clearly is a sociopath though, unable to empathise with the pain of others.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #236 - April 17, 2012, 09:16 PM

    Being a sociopath is a psychiatric disorder in itself.


    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #237 - April 17, 2012, 09:23 PM


    Well as far as criminal responsibility for acts of killing goes he's been clinically deemed fit for trial.

    I'm not sure if he will be re-assessed at any point, if so this will change.

    If not though we know he didn't kill himself by shooting himself in the head as most 'Columbine' style shooters tend to do.

    He didn't do a siege and have an armed confrontation with the police when they located him ending in him dying in a 'blaze of glory'.

    He laid down his weapon and surrendered.

    He'd planned it for years.

    So he is definitely sociopathic, but sociopathy can come within the remit of human agency.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #238 - April 17, 2012, 09:29 PM

    He wants to be viewed as a martyr. He's probably hoping for the worst sentence as some sort of evidence that he was right all along.

    ونحن نحب الحياة إذا ما استطعنا إليها سبيلا
  • Re: Giant blast hits government buildings in Oslo, Norway
     Reply #239 - April 17, 2012, 09:36 PM


    I suspect this speech will have activated chatter amongst the sociopath far-right with terrorist admiration or inclination in Europe and the USA. He is clearly speaking to an audience he imagines out there in the world I hope the intelligence services are using this as a fishing net to detect that chatter.

    The truly frightening thing is that this man was completely under the radar. He did it alone, planned it meticulously, stockpiled his materials without any detection, guns, ammo and fertiliser for his bomb. As yet no formal logistical network with others has been detected - he appears to be the archetype of the lone wolf terrorist. And he's laid out a template and manifesto for any future terrorist to use as inspiration. That is what is worrying now.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

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