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  • Question: Which one (if any) are you more inclined to side with? (Give reasons)
  • Israel - 50 (30.5%)
  • Palestine - 114 (69.5%)
  • Total Voters: 163

 Topic: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?

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  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #600 - February 26, 2012, 11:20 PM
    Yeez, do you think Palestinians should be deported on the basis of their religion and/or lose some/all of their rights?
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #601 - February 26, 2012, 11:28 PM
     Roll Eyes
    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #602 - February 26, 2012, 11:38 PM
    Quote from: Sprout on February 26, 2012, 09:38 PM
    Really?


    Lol, you really dont get a joke do you?
    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #603 - February 27, 2012, 12:00 AM
    My sense of humour isn't that bad, but sometimes people on the net are serious when it seems otherwise.
    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #604 - February 27, 2012, 10:59 AM
    SOME OF YOU ARE MORE PATHETIC THAN OTHERS..

    Some of you guys have not read anything I wrote in this thread., please read.,  You guys being people with brain and throw quite bit of ANTI-ISLAMIC posts in the forum do not see my point of view after 50 or so posts in this thread, This   means  you will not understand with one more of my post.


    your brain need to be washed with more than one post you need tons of them..  so we will continue to discuss the subject..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #605 - February 27, 2012, 11:21 AM
    LISTEN TO ME,YOU BABBOONS!


    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #606 - February 27, 2012, 02:33 PM
    Quote from: Cato on February 27, 2012, 11:21 AM
    LISTEN TO ME,YOU BABBOONS!

    (Clicky for piccy!)


    Hmm.. yes Cato you are RIOT.,  that is me.. i do change colors  and i do that quite often..

    yes that is me saying  "LISTEN TO ME,YOU BABBOONS!"

    and that is  for  me to define, Me who will define .. "Who is baboon and who is not" and how to treat them and where to send them.,  you have no right to define "Who is baboon and who is not".  

    Now let us watch some dogs fighting

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtD_y4VoBd0

     
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #607 - February 27, 2012, 03:34 PM
    Quote
    Yes England for its past mistakes should make a little place near London   for all these baboons..   it will be easy to deal with them in England than if they are spread around all those so-called Islamic countries..


    Thank you!! parrot
    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #608 - February 27, 2012, 05:52 PM
    Quote from: moi on February 27, 2012, 03:34 PM
    Thank you!! parrot


    You are welcome moi., I hope you know who the baboons are.........    So suppose you are given full powers from God and no one says anything what you decide.,   How do we solve the problem of Israel/Palestine
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #609 - February 27, 2012, 05:58 PM
    create a copy of the EU with Israel playing the role of Germany?
    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #610 - February 27, 2012, 06:08 PM
    Quote from: moi on February 27, 2012, 05:58 PM
    create a copy of the EU with Israel playing the role of Germany?

    I like that suggestion.,

     but don't you   want solve that  East Germany_West Germany problem you have there before Israel plays the role of Germany of EU??

     And I hope you know EU/GERMANY has same religion even if it is nominal Christianity ..

    How do we solve that problem THERE.. in that Allah Land with all the Prophets of Abraham religions??
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #611 - February 27, 2012, 06:53 PM
    I was in Germany just after reunification.  Firstly they clearly knew they had a common history, next they had an impressive vision of a just ecological society.  Comments about Israel's homes having 90% solar panels and the freedoms to be gay show they already understand and are practising what matters.

    The Muslim world, with an Egyptian spokesman for Muslim Brotherhood stating they would introduce sharia and if people did not stop stealing of course they would have their hands chopped off is the problem.

    Israel is the obvious leader for the region.

    Amusingly, I remember when kibbutzim were seen as the socialist future!

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #612 - February 27, 2012, 07:12 PM
    Quote from: moi on February 27, 2012, 06:53 PM
    Amusingly, I remember when kibbutzim were seen as the socialist future!

    Hey, you must be an old fart too. Grin I remember that.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #613 - February 27, 2012, 07:31 PM
    Quote from: moi on February 27, 2012, 06:53 PM
    Comments about Israel's homes having 90% solar panels and the freedoms to be gay show they already understand and are practising what matters.


    Actually it shows they are a wealthy and technologically-advanced country with very limited access to power from fossil fuels, hydroelectric, or wind power (except maybe some wind farms in the Negev, not sure), but plenty of sun since they're in the fuckin desert. A wealthy and technologically-advanced country because an even wealthier and more technologically advanced country props up both its domestic, and, more importantly, its military spending, so it can continue to defend its stolen land from the former inhabitants and their allies and can continue to steal more limited arable land as their demographics continue to demand expansion.

    Yeah, they would make a great leader for the Middle East-- not like they're dependent on an imperial power thousands of miles away for their continued existence, or viewed with suspicion, resentment and outright hatred by their neighbors. And I'm sure it will be easy enough to reverse those negative feelings because they are so eager to stop stealing land from Arabs, give them full human rights, and make peace. Also, not like the other Middle Eastern countries aren't run by a bunch of self-interested, sectarian, bigoted, brutal, shamelessly opportunistic tyrants. Yeah sounds like a great plan. Good luck with that shit.

    The far left solution of regional proletarian revolution uniting the Levant seems pragmatic in comparison with this suggestion
    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #614 - February 27, 2012, 07:35 PM
    If you give the Palestinians solar panels, everyone will be happy.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #615 - February 27, 2012, 07:47 PM
    At least the average citizen in Israel is more open to religious freedoms.
    A video from a reality TV show where two actors. One a woman in hijab goes to get coffee and the other actor the cashier refuses to sell her coffess because she is Arab. Most if not all the customers defended her said that that's not right in "this country"

    Watch from 1:00

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cggZu0QQUU

    Now if that was a Jewish woman in many other Islamic countries, I wonder how many Muslims would defend her? The countries where people truly act out and support religious freedoms are truly gems, and are on the right path.
    ***~Church is where bad people go to hide~***
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #616 - February 27, 2012, 07:57 PM
    I take it from Yeez's post that you have misunderstood his position, Q.
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #617 - February 27, 2012, 08:04 PM
    Quote from: Sakura02 on February 27, 2012, 07:47 PM
    At least the average citizen in Israel is more open to religious freedoms.
    A video from a reality TV show where two actors. One a woman in hijab goes to get coffee and the other actor the cashier refuses to sell her coffess because she is Arab. Most if not all the customers defended her said that that's not right in "this country"

    Watch from 1:00

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cggZu0QQUU


    Yes, this has been posted before. But you can't really take a staged TV show like this and take it as serious research into the issue. For one thing, this may have been done in a particularly liberal neighborhood, as opposed to say, a neighborhood with a bunch of ultra-Orthodox/Hasidim. For another we have no idea what footage got left out of the final cut.

    Quote
    Now if that was a Jewish woman in many other Islamic countries, I wonder how many Muslims would defend her?


    I dunno. I think it would depend where it happened. I'm sure reactions would vary depending on where it was set up. Again, I think if you had staged this show in a Jewish neighborhood in Hebron you would have gotten MUCH different reactions-- that is, if they even let the woman in. I used to know a Palestinian-American guy who had an Israeli try to sic his dog on him for no reason other than that he was an Arab in a Jewish neighborhood until he held up his blue passport.

    Quote from: harakaat on February 27, 2012, 07:57 PM
    I take it from Yeez's post that you have misunderstood his position, Q.


    I take it that STFU
    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #618 - February 27, 2012, 08:14 PM
    Quote from: Raccoon Rapist on February 27, 2012, 08:04 PM
    I take it that STFU


    No, really, if he's not saying what you think he is, then you hate him for the wrong reasons. And I read that post too -- didn't really seem to me he was calling for deportation or stripping Palestinians of their rights, but I wanted to ask him to make sure. He still hasn't made his position very clear yet. I urge you to do that, Yeez.
    قل للمليحة في الخمار الأسود
    مـاذا فـعــلت بــناسـك مـتـعـبد

    قـد كـان شـمّر لــلـصلاة ثـيابه
    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

    ردي عليـه صـلاتـه وصيـامــه
    لا تـقــتـلــيه بـحـق ديــن محمد
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #619 - February 27, 2012, 08:55 PM
    Quote from: moi on February 27, 2012, 06:53 PM
    The Muslim world, with an Egyptian spokesman for Muslim Brotherhood stating they would introduce sharia and if people did not stop stealing of course they would have their hands chopped off is the problem.


    Since when did an MB spokesman become the representative of all Muslims  Huh? Also I don't think he'd say such a thing, its against their methodology and even if it wasn't he'd be stupid to say that in public, in other words I think you're a lying prick making shit up.
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #620 - February 27, 2012, 09:09 PM
    Quote from: harakaat on February 27, 2012, 08:14 PM
    No, really, if he's not saying what you think he is, then you hate him for the wrong reasons. And I read that post too -- didn't really seem to me he was calling for deportation or stripping Palestinians of their rights, but I wanted to ask him to make sure. He still hasn't made his position very clear yet. I urge you to do that, Yeez.


    There is no positive spin to put on his clearly stated position that if inhabitants of X who are Y religion want to be permitted to stay in X then they must leave Y and possibly convert to A and B. Using variables because you can stick any religion or place in there and it would be equally morally objectionable. Regardless of whatever specifics he wants to elaborate on it is clearly a reprehensible position that views people as having no right to either their religion or the land they inhabit if they are a particular religion.
    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #621 - February 27, 2012, 09:43 PM
    Quote from: harakaat on February 27, 2012, 08:14 PM
    No, really, if he's not saying what you think he is, then you hate him for the wrong reasons. And I read that post too -- didn't really seem to me he was calling for deportation or stripping Palestinians of their rights, but I wanted to ask him to make sure. He still hasn't made his position very clear yet. I urge you to do that, Yeez.

     harakaat ., I am reading/questioning and answering on this problem for a long time ..through history/through geography/through religion ..  i will do that again., but what did you understand what I said here and gillion other posts in this 23 pages thread alone??

    I am trying to get this bookConcentric Circles: Nurturing Awe and Wonder in Early Childhood A Foundational Approach and understand its logic..



    That is written by Elma Ruth Harder  in consultation with Muzaffar Iqbal., Do you by chance know who that guy is?  and did you read that book?  The word Concentric Circles is an interesting word., Islam indeed runs in Concentric Circles.,

    So when I wrote that post I  had Emir of Qatar in my mind and i said
    Quote
    I say to Al Thani Emir of Qatar., As many millions of Arabs can go to Jerusalem and as many 100 of 1000s of Arabs can freely live in  Jerusalem or IN ISRAEL., BUT THEY ALL HAVE TO LEAVE Muhammad's Islam   and join Israel ., and if they need religion they should move into one of the earlier Abrahamic religions

    Well Emir you say that Muslims say YOU ARE A JEWISH DOG.. here watch it..

     that is what I said., I hope that is the post you are trying to understand..  Any ways  I don't group all Muslims in to one circle., I make Concentric circles around them., I treat each concentric circle in different way..  Any ways Moi's posts are more important to me..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #622 - February 27, 2012, 09:47 PM
    Quote from: Aphrodite on February 27, 2012, 08:55 PM
    Since when did an MB spokesman become the representative of all Muslims  Huh? Also I don't think he'd say such a thing, its against their methodology and even if it wasn't he'd be stupid to say that in public, in other words I think you're a lying prick making shit up.

    Hmmm.. good question Aphrodite ., So what % of Muslims are represented by that Muslim Brothelhood? I am sure you know that Muslim Brothelhood influence on Islam changes from region to region, time to time and country to country..   So give me numbers of their influence...
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #623 - February 27, 2012, 09:52 PM
    Quote from: moi on February 27, 2012, 06:53 PM
    I was in Germany just after reunification.  Firstly they clearly knew they had a common history, next they had an impressive vision of a just ecological society.  Comments about Israel's homes having 90% solar panels and the freedoms to be gay show they already understand and are practising what matters.

    The Muslim world, with an Egyptian spokesman for Muslim Brotherhood stating they would introduce sharia and if people did not stop stealing of course they would have their hands chopped off is the problem.

    Israel is the obvious leader for the region.

    Amusingly, I remember when kibbutzim were seen as the socialist future!



    Hello    moi .. too many different things in the post.. and you didn't really attempt to answer my question .. anyways so you say on that Germany   reunification   "Firstly they clearly knew they had a common history, next they had an impressive vision of a just ecological society." .. rest of the post is needed here .,

    So do we have common history between Jewish folks ,  Palestinians and Palestinian Muslims?  After all everything started from Abraham..

    with best
    yeezevee
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #624 - February 27, 2012, 10:03 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 27, 2012, 09:43 PM
    harakaat ., I am reading/questioning and answering on this problem for a long time ..through history/through geography/through religion ..  i will do that again., but what did you understand what I said here and gillion other posts in this 23 pages thread alone??

    I am trying to get this bookConcentric Circles: Nurturing Awe and Wonder in Early Childhood A Foundational Approach and understand its logic..

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    That is written by Elma Ruth Harder  in consultation with Muzaffar Iqbal., Do you by chance know who that guy is?  and did you read that book?  The word Concentric Circles is an interesting word., Islam indeed runs in Concentric Circles.,

    So when I wrote that post I  had Emir of Qatar in my mind and i said that is what I said., I hope that is the post you are trying to understand..  Any ways  I don't group all Muslims in to one circle., I make Concentric circles around them., I treat each concentric circle in different way..  Any ways Moi's posts are more important to me..


    There-- that answer your question harakaat? Cheesy
    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #625 - February 27, 2012, 10:17 PM
    Quote from: Raccoon Rapist on February 27, 2012, 09:09 PM
    There is no positive spin to put on his clearly stated position that if inhabitants of X who are Y religion want to be permitted to stay in X then they must leave Y and possibly convert to A and B. Using variables because you can stick any religion or place in there and it would be equally morally objectionable. Regardless of whatever specifics he wants to elaborate on it is clearly a reprehensible position that views people as having no right to either their religion or the land they inhabit if they are a particular religion.

    yes

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=15908.msg547378#msg547378

    yes ..Raccoon  all those you see in that link  above, they have NO RIGHT to say what they say.... so If those are the unquestionable  leaders of Muslim folk and Islam .. then trust me there will be walls not in Palestine but where ever such people are there..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #626 - February 27, 2012, 10:58 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpADEuBaaBM

    Delegation of Sudanese Islamic heroes  Visiting  Gaza on on Sep 16, 2011

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmPycQzjSDk
    And..some Sudanese opposition leader asking for  Diplomatic Relations with Israel.,

    Hmm..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIMxuk3JbVM

    Some progress is made.. but long way to do to make some 10 ..20 million of such people
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #627 - February 28, 2012, 12:05 AM
    Quote from: Raccoon Rapist on February 26, 2012, 06:30 PM
    1. You are saying that in order for Muslims to live on their homeland they must convert. This makes you fucking scum and no different than the Muslims who demand the same thing of people in areas they have control over.

    2. Many of the Arabs in Jerusalem and elsewhere in Israel are Christian and they get fucked by the Israelis as much as the Muslims. I've brought this up to you several times but each time you refuse to acknowledge it and instead go on one of your half-baked nonsensical yeezevee rants.


    Hmm That one word is very important with reference to the history of that land of  Prophets.. Prophets of Abrahamic religions .,  Clearly this thread is not good to discuss that subject  as it deals with events that took place 1400 years back to all the way to 2012.. so let me add few tubes on that subject here..


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TBfPa7kFH8

    That is good point Doug Dick  .. well we got here from both sides..


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uXlOiqFaDg


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaYmPmoIpS8

    Hmm O.k

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jG6kJm-50k

    good questions..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXj6dGN2RJ4

    O.k.....
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #628 - February 28, 2012, 06:42 AM
    Quote from: harakaat on February 27, 2012, 08:14 PM
    No, really, if he's not saying what you think he is, then you hate him for the wrong reasons. And I read that post too -- didn't really seem to me he was calling for deportation or stripping Palestinians of their rights, but I wanted to ask him to make sure. He still hasn't made his position very clear yet. I urge you to do that, Yeez.


    You can't seriously be expecting that, can you? 6 yeez posts later and his position still has about the same clarity as a cup of swamp muck. I hope you were just trollin bro.  Cheesy
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Pro Israel or Pro Palestine?
     Reply #629 - February 28, 2012, 08:32 AM
    Quote from: asbdsp on February 28, 2012, 06:42 AM
    You can't seriously be expecting that, can you? 6 yeez posts later and his position still has about the same clarity as a cup of swamp muck. I hope you were just trollin bro.  Cheesy

    You have neither read the question nor answer asbdsp.,  but let me read the news
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
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