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 Topic: So General McChrystal is Gone., But what is America doing in Afganistan??

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  • Re: So General McChrystal is Gone., But what is America doing in Afganistan??
     Reply #30 - July 17, 2010, 12:15 AM

    Is that the same PressTV that is sponsored by the regime in Iran?

    No that is different

    There you will see the Monkey acting like an intellectual..  here is the link  http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=223081


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  • Re: So General McChrystal is Gone., But what is America doing in Afganistan??
     Reply #31 - July 17, 2010, 12:21 AM

    There you will see the Monkey acting like an intellectual

     Cheesy You really have a great way with words Yzvee

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  • Re: So General McChrystal is Gone., But what is America doing in Afganistan??
     Reply #32 - July 20, 2010, 10:43 PM

    Pakistan's FM Speaks Out

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pzveQ9tXZc


    Hillary Clinton Visits Pakistan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrtIpQ4YpNQ
    Ha! it is funny to see no real dignitary was present when Mrs Clinton gets down the plane .. NOT EVEN Pakistan's FOREIGN MINISTER..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnRJ9Qnwkko


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  • Re: So General McChrystal is Gone., But what is America doing in Afganistan??
     Reply #33 - July 20, 2010, 10:51 PM

    There you will see the Monkey acting like an intellectual


    George Galloway?
  • Re: So General McChrystal is Gone., But what is America doing in Afganistan??
     Reply #34 - July 23, 2010, 08:28 PM

    George Galloway?

    No  That guys is a BRITISH Monkey..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xYFVQJ2opE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO9iN_fZZaA

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  • Re: So General McChrystal is Gone., But what is America doing in Afganistan??
     Reply #35 - July 23, 2010, 10:31 PM

    The Afghan conundrum., What will happen if Americans leave that Land..


    http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=252250

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    ....The grim reality of the Afghan state is that without American and Nato support it would collapse in a day. Its ragtag army is poorly trained, ill disciplined and divided by history of conflict between its different ethnicities. Its police is no better and has shakily been put together by attracting recruits with heavy doses of American money. At the first sign of trouble, it melts away.
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    The governing structure is based on patronage and corruption that flows from the centre to the provinces, with Mr Karzai holding the ultimate pot of foreign-inspired gold. The announcement at the conference that more donor money will be funnelled through the Afghan government would have been music to his ears.

    There is hardly any functioning bureaucracy beyond Kabul, and even there the meaning of the word functioning would have to be stretched. The provinces are run, if run is the word, by a governor with a small band of loyal retainers.


    This is not a structure that corresponds to any modern definition of a viable state. Vigorous efforts are being made by the Americans and others to make it better, but the results are not very encouraging. How this will change in four years, and to the extent that Afghan forces will take over security duties in the country by 2014, is difficult to comprehend.
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    The problem for the Americans and their Western allies is that support in their countries for the war in Afghanistan has virtually collapsed. With dead bodies coming home every week, most people cannot understand what their armed forces are doing in Afghanistan. Or, why so much money in these difficult economic times is being spent there.  It is for this reason that President Obama announced the start of a withdrawal in July 2011 and new British prime minister David Cameron has forcefully declared that British forces will be out of the country by 2015. The Europeans and others have already begun to phase out.

    The exit strategy devised to accomplish this has two pillars based on the presumption that no military victory in this conflict is possible. One, to negotiate a solution with the Taliban that ends the fighting, and brings them, or at least their acceptable faces, into the Afghan power structure. And, two, to build the Afghan state to an extent that it can stand on its own feet after the Westerners withdraw.

    Both are doomed to failure. But this will not bother the Americans or their allies as long as there is a decent interval between their retirement from the fighting and whatever happens next in Afghanistan. Shades of Vietnam again, and probably with similar results?

    ..........................................

    This is where Pakistan's role has become crucial. The Americans want it both to pressure the Afghan Taliban militarily and use its influence to bring them to the negotiating table. This apparently contradictory demand is particularly targeted at the Haqqani network, which is alleged to have close links with the ISI.  It seems that Pakistan is willing to help out, provided its concerns are met. Pakistan wants a friendly Afghanistan, as Gen Kayani has repeatedly emphasised. It wants a neighbour that is not a problem for its security and, if possible, provides opportunities for mutual economic benefit.

    The recent warming of relations between the two countries is an indicator that Pakistan's concerns have been to an extent acknowledged by the Americans and the Afghans. Of particular significance is the training of Afghan military officers scheduled to begin in Pakistan soon.

    This was one area where the Indians were keen to get in and that was troubling for Pakistan. Military training builds bonds between the armed forces and Pakistan was keen for it to take place here. The fact that it will start to happen is interesting, and an important indicator of warming relations between the two countries.

    ...............

     read it all at the link.  It is a good time for Land of Pure to  plan carefully to get as a much as it can from Land of Freedom..

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  • Re: So General McChrystal is Gone., But what is America doing in Afganistan??
     Reply #36 - July 24, 2010, 01:50 PM


    Malalai Joya - 'Palestinian of My Own Country'

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQAgi_kZqxM

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    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: So General McChrystal is Gone., But what is America doing in Afganistan??
     Reply #37 - July 25, 2010, 09:07 PM

    Tojiks, Hazaras, Pashtuns, Usbeks, Sikhs, Hindus   The Afghanistan It was.....


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMfQyTyW1i8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmZgiU6aBnE
     

    This is for you Iblis..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dIETKH12TM

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: So General McChrystal is Gone., But what is America doing in Afganistan??
     Reply #38 - July 28, 2010, 05:03 AM

    The high cost of defeat   Irfan Husain   writes on Wednesday, 28 Jul, 2010 in Dawn

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    THE vast trove of leaked intelligence reports recently posted by Wikileaks over the Internet has elicited a furious denial from the ISI about its alleged role in Afghanistan that emerges from many of the cables. Washington has similarly denounced the release of these secret documents on the irrepressible website.

    For me, what was more interesting and depressing than the allegations of ISI involvement in the burgeoning Taliban insurgency is the sense of hopelessness that emerges from these reports.....
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    Soon after the invasion of Afghanistan in the wake of 9/11, an apocryphal story hinting at the nightmare to come did the rounds. At a mosque in the badlands under Taliban control, a cleric declared in his sermon following Friday prayers: “See how mighty is Allah! Earlier, the Americans were too far away for us to kill. But now, by the grace of Allah, they have landed on our doorstep!”

    It sounded slightly funny at the time, as the quick victory of the allied forces seemed to signal the end of the Taliban. It doesn’t sound so funny now.

    In Canada, where I am at present, and in England, friends constantly ask what their soldiers are dying for. Whatever their political affiliations, they see no point in continuing a futile war in which their national interest is not directly involved. They no longer believe politicians who declare that their troops in Afghanistan are protecting the streets of Manchester and Montreal. They point out, quite correctly, that the threat to their countries comes from home-grown young Muslim radicals rather than from the Taliban.

    I reply that had I been a Canadian or a Brit, I would have also demanded a pullout of Western forces. But as a Pakistani, I hope that they’ll stay for as long as it takes to defeat the Taliban.

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    For me, the issue is crystal clear: as soon as the coalition forces leave, the Taliban will be back in Kabul, and the civil war will resume. Pakistan will end up supporting the Taliban again, while India and Iran back the Northern Alliance. And inevitably, the Taliban will help their jihadi brethren in Pakistan. Without the drone attacks to check them, the Pakistani militants in Waziristan and elsewhere will further tighten their grip over the tribal areas.

    Above all, a Taliban victory over the United States and its allies will bring more jihadis from around the world flocking to the region. When the mujahideen forced the mighty Red Army out of Afghanistan, that victory resounded across the Islamic world. Imagine how the defeat of the remaining superpower will be perceived by the faithful.

    The entire region will become a hotbed of extremist violence. The Taliban – and Al Qaeda – will have greater credibility and appeal than ever before. Girls will be sent home from their schools, and women will be relegated to the second-class status they had endured in the earlier bout of Taliban rule. And the fallout from this allied defeat will spread over Pakistan and cross the border into India, apart from enveloping the Central Asian republics.

    Triumphant and energised, political Islam will be a major destabilising force. As a Pakistani, I shudder to think of the consequences of this chain of events. Unfortunately, far too many of my countrymen, both on the left and the right, are convinced that for things to become normal, Western forces must leave Afghanistan. They are naïve in thinking that the extremist genie can ever be put back in the bottle.


    I don't understand Irfans' logic here,

    a). if The Taliban – and Al Qaeda – will have greater credibility and appeal than ever before. and

    b). if Taliban victory over the United States and its allies will bring more jihadis from around the world flocking to the region.

    c).  And   If the fallout from this allied defeat will spread over Pakistan and cross the border into India, apart from enveloping the Central Asian republics.


    So what is the problem?  Pakistan will become Madina of Islam. What is wrong with that? why you should care about Iran, India or Central Asian republics?? You should be happy being Pakistani..


    I say Irfan Husain  is jew.. drinking juice with money he gets from CIA-Mossad and RAW..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • So General McChrystal is Gone., But what is America doing in Afganistan??
     Reply #39 - October 03, 2013, 04:04 PM

    well I wrote about this lady number of times and in various forums., In fact  USA Bush Govt banned her entry in to that great country of freedom & democracy.. but It appears she is in US of A..  Apparently  She and prof. Noam Chomsky  discusses on  on Afghan women's rights   No to US Wars - No to Warlords -  No to Women’s Oppression  In Boston  on October 6 2013 at  7:00 pm - 9:00 pm  at  Harvard Square area, Cambridge. Let us watch her what she is saying..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Dk6XclZUA

    and also if you guys have time watch this  That is from March 25, 2011. Malalai Joya and Noam Chomsky discussing
    The Case for Withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    Well I like her I support her in every way., But I am not sure she understands the ground realities and ground situation.. She is one way traffic talker/thinker...  
     

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • So General McChrystal is Gone., But what is America doing in Afganistan??
     Reply #40 - August 26, 2016, 04:16 PM

    West exploits Afghan terror victims .. Saturday, July 30, 2016  By Malalai Joya, Kabul
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    Although it was not deemed worthy of front page coverage in much of the Western media, the horrific attack against a demonstration in Kabul on July 23 should be known about and condemned by the whole world.
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    More than 80 people from the Hazara minority were slaughtered in the terrorist attack. Their only crime was to assemble in a crowd to peacefully protest against discrimination and demand justice from the corrupt and puppet government of Ashraf Ghani and Abdullah Abdullah.

    Whenever terrorist attacks occur, dangerous right-wing demagogues everywhere use these tragic deaths to whip up fear of “foreigners”, and Muslims in particular.

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    The most terrifying example is that of Donald Trump — a hateful, egotistical man who is trying to seize control of the United States and its empire, which includes the most powerful and deadly military in the world.


    The latest massacre in Kabul is a reminder that it is people in Afghanistan and across what is simplistically called “the Muslim world” who are the first and foremost victims of these terrorists and Salafi-jihadist groups. For decades these groups have used sectarian mass murderer as a political weapon.

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    They are the same brutal groups, rebranded with different names, who were nourished and supported by the West during the Cold War. They are still being used as tools in their brutal wars in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and other Islamic countries.


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    Trump must not be allowed to hijack our pain. Nor are we comforted by the crocodile tears of Hillary Clinton, a warmonger herself who not only supported the war in Iraq but justified the long occupation of my country.

    People in Afghanistan join in sorrow and solidarity with all our brothers and sisters who have suffered from these savage acts of mass murder in whatever corner of the world they occur — in Nice and Paris, in Munich, in Brussels, in Orlando, or in Baghdad.

    People around the globe must stand together against terrorists, and against warmongers and imperialists who create more chaos and death under the nice banner of the “war on terror.”

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    And we must stand together against fascists like Trump who seek to use humanity's sadness and insecurity to whip up xenophobia, racism and division.

    Now, more than ever, we must all stand together. And that means the lives of Afghans, Iraqis and others on the frontlines of this endless war must be considered as precious as the lives of Europeans and North Americans.

    We all must understand that imperialism and terrorism/fundamentalism are two sides of a coin. We Afghans have been suffering for more than four decades at the hands of bloodthirsty fundamentalists backed and supported by the West — especially the US government.

    Right now, the puppet regime in Kabul is run mostly by the same fundamentalist elements who are brothers-in-creed of Osama Bin Laden. They have just learned to hide their extremism behind a suit and tie, changing their appearance under the guise of the US occupiers.

    My homeland's heart aches with the blood of hundreds of my innocent compatriots and the nation mourns. Offering condolences cannot relieve the harrowing pain of the Dehmazang tragedy perpetrated by medieval-minded savages.

    The blood stains on the streets of Kabul should be a lesson of awakening and consciousness for our nation. For too long our justice-seeking movements have been hijacked by ethnic and religious sectarians, aided and encouraged by foreign military invasions and occupations.

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    Our Hazara compatriots should take this lesson from the martyrdom of more than 80 innocent people. They can fulfil their just and humane demands only if they hold accountable the traitors who have been using ethnic divisions to advance their own interests, and have ridden roughshod over our suffering people for decades

    .
    A movement that is not led by honest, pro-people, progressive, national and anti-reactionary elements will always be perverted and robbed of its true values. This is proven by the blood and devastation suffered by millions of people in our history, and that of the world.

    Although apparently ISIS has claimed responsibility for this attack, there are countless unanswered questions on the matter that the treacherous government of Ghani and Abdullah needs to answer. They can block the entire Kabul city and stop the movement of six million inhabitants, but cannot stop a couple of suicide attackers?

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    From the persistence of these incidents we know that there are elements inside the government and state who are colluding with terrorists. There are many Trumps and Clintons in Afghanistan who profit from violence and use these attacks to further their own agenda.


    People worldwide must join our hands together. If we let them divide us, we all will lose and no one will be safe and secure. Global solidarity is now more important than ever.

    [Reprinted from Ricochet. Malalai Joya is a world-renown Afghan feminist and socialist. As the youngest elected MP in Afghanistan, and an outspoken women's rights campaigner, anti-war activist and author, Joya has faced numerous assassination attempts for daring to speak out.]

    that is apparently what she wrote .,I supported and still support her one way or other and I wrote in support of her in many forums/posts  but in recent times she straight goes for writing nonsense with out blinking an eye  such this

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    Although apparently ISIS has claimed responsibility for this attack, there are countless unanswered questions on the matter that the treacherous government of Ghani and Abdullah needs to answer. They can block the entire Kabul city and stop the movement of six million inhabitants, but cannot stop a couple of suicide attackers?

     

    She just talking nonsense there..   Dammit Against those suicide bombers , London can not do anything , Russia can not do anything and US of A can not do anything.. Pakistan with all military might in hand is helpless  ., How can Kabul and its police force could do against those who wants die for the sake of their faith and kill others ?

    dear Malalai Joya stop doing  that stop writing nonsense....

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